Video of Pakistan army attacking Talibans.

[django]

Sir, would you agree that we need devolution of authority to section/platoon leaders and more leadership shown by lower officers? Also, not lowering one's guard even after threat is neutralized?

I hope this approach of devolving command at the tactical level is implemented if not already being done so, the Yanks have been doing it for the best part of 2 decades, we have had extensive collaboration with them during joint military training exercises and through the IMET program surely we must have picked upon this approach.Kudos

One more interesting:

@Signalian @django check the role of the M-113 in Swat operation:


- leading vehicle of the convoy, the only "heavy" armed vehicle with 12.7mm cover fire on the long range
- convoy protection vehicle
- Soldiers could fire different firearms(G-3, Ak-47, MG-3) from inside adational to the 12.7mm AA Gun, from a relative "save" and mobile vehicle, compared to the Hino Trucks and the Pickups!
- Its not an easy task to bring precice and effetiv fire on the enemy with 12.7mm, because the operator must dug out

A bigger fire package than from the Pick-ups:


Notice the 2 x Mg-3, one 12.7mm, and the usual rifle arms operators!

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Good observation.Kudos

 

[Eagle_storm]

Five militants killed in Army operation in Swabi
Dawn.com | Naveed SiddiquiUpdated March 07, 2017
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Five suspected terrorists were reportedly killed in an intelligence-based operation conducted by Pakistan Army in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's Swabi district on Tuesday.

"[The] five terrorists who were killed [...] were planning to target educational institutions and judicial complexes," Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said in a statement.

The military's media wing said three of the terrorists had been identified, while the remaining two were "probably Afghans". At least one of the identified militants was a member of Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan, according to ISPR.

Two soldiers of the Army also lost their lives in the operation.

"Sacrifice of our shaheeds will not go [to] waste. Terrorist will be brought [to] their end and held accountable for their fasaad," Chief of Army Staff Qamar Jawed Bajwa said in response to the operation.

The two soldiers were among an Army party conducting an intelligence-based operation in Swabi district's Malikabad area, according to ISPR.

Captain Junaid of the Pakistan Army lost his life during an operation in KP.─Courtesy: ISPR


A day earlier, five soldiers of Pakistan Army had been slain in a "terrorist attack" on three Pakistani border posts along the Pak-Afghan border area in Mohmand Agency. Over 15 suspected militants were also reportedly killed during the attack.

The Army had launched Operation Raddul Fasaad last month following a spate of terror attacks in the country, which claimed more than a hundred lives and left hundreds others injured.

The operation seeks to eliminate the "residual/latent threat of terrorism", consolidating the gains made in other military operations, and further ensuring the security of Pakistan's borders.

Hundreds of suspected terrorists have reportedly either been killed or arrested in raids carried out by security personnel since the start of the operation.




The way SSG assault team put their lives at stake for compound clearing Ops. What is the point of creating POF corner shot if they want to do things old fashion way ?

true.....

appreciate

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

But are the normal soldiers allowed to record normal combat footage like US, British, Canadian army's do?
like this? if not than why?

So did he got shaheed in this fight is that right?

This video is real.. but edited.. before and after operation..

The voice you hear about tango bodies is the CO's.

Capt Junaid was martyred during cordoning..

 

[BATMAN]

They should use ground based crawling drones before entering a room /compund.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Off course war with an enemy state would be on a different scale.
Constant communication is basically not for micro management, rather sharing of information in both directions.

Yes, I didn't have that point in mind, civilian casualties. But if this was a mission in a war against India let's say, I would expect the troops performing the operation to have a lot of latitude, battle commander on the ground requesting air support as needed, and not needing to be in constant comms with remote officers, who would get burdened very quickly if they had to micro-manage multiple operations in different sectors simultaneously.

Americans don't care about civilian deaths. You must have heard about their snipers killing more than 35 (I could wrong on the number) unarmed men, women and children coming for a wedding despite knowing and reporting to their seniors that they don't look like the terrorists they were told, but still were ordered to kill them all. and they did.

one way would be to just isolate the compound and level the whole thing air power like Americans do in Afghanistan and Iraq.... but that leads to high civilian casualities.....

the reason why ssg was called in to clear was probably becaz risk of having a suicide bomber inside

 

[Arsalan]

Got from Reddit people saying Capt Junaid got shaheed in this fight. SSG should get Go pro cam's like other army's.

Great share mate. Thank you.

Really interested in the system used to shoot the video to begin with. Was they using some cam copter for surveillance purpose? this is be interesting to know.

Also cannot help but notice many security personal in civilian clothing. Agency guys i assume.

@Icarus @balixd @TaimiKhan @Irfan Baloch @Quwa

Plus the video is heavily edited but still some things do not make sense. The SSG guys are shown roaming freely in the same compounds BEFORE they are shown clearing it. Once cleared the roof of one of the rooms collapses but in the time frame when they are shown moving freely in the compound the roof is OK meaning it was BEFORE the clearing operation. The terrorist bodies are shown around the rim of the hill and near the compound meaning our people fought from within and around the compound? WHY CLEAR IT LATER? It is a bit confusing really.

 

[RealNapster]

Let us bloody hope so bro.Kudos

I thought so because no one is paying attention to "that thing". also, we can listen in the video prior to 6:00 that "causalities have been moved".

 

[Signalian]

One more interesting:

@Signalian @django check the role of the M-113 in Swat operation:


- leading vehicle of the convoy, the only "heavy" armed vehicle with 12.7mm cover fire on the long range
- convoy protection vehicle
- Soldiers could fire different firearms(G-3, Ak-47, MG-3) from inside adational to the 12.7mm AA Gun, from a relative "save" and mobile vehicle, compared to the Hino Trucks and the Pickups!
- Its not an easy task to bring precice and effetiv fire on the enemy with 12.7mm, because the operator must dug out

A bigger fire package than from the Pick-ups:


Notice the 2 x Mg-3, one 12.7mm, and the usual rifle arms operators!

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reminds me of the gun trucks. mini gun can be better instead of 12.7mm

 

[Amaa'n]

Great share mate. Thank you.

Really interested in the system used to shoot the video to begin with. Was they using some cam copter for surveillance purpose? this is be interesting to know.

nothing fancy, your standard DJI drone, for aerial monitoring, you send that bird out in the open before an op & Tangos are going to have a field day over it.

Also cannot help but notice many security personal in civilian clothing. Agency guys i assume.

Yes some of them for sure intel guys considering it was IBO, also could be informants --- back from 2013 during Khyber 2 a friend was with FC, he shared few snaps of a IED cache bust, that had Intel guys in plain clothes too

Plus the video is heavily edited but still some things do not make sense. The SSG guys are shown roaming freely in the same compounds BEFORE they are shown clearing it. Once cleared the roof of one of the rooms collapses but in the time frame when they are shown moving freely in the compound the roof is OK meaning it was BEFORE the clearing operation. The terrorist bodies are shown around the rim of the hill and near the compound meaning our people fought from within and around the compound? WHY CLEAR IT LATER? It is a bit confusing really.

same here, am confused on this too --- i can see a troop talking to Baba g inside the house, with one jawan taking position on the inner wall of the house, some walking casual ----
then we have at 2:34mins of the video, Two troops firing on the out wall of the house , you can see a tango falling down at same time in the lower left corner of the footage --- tango is identified by a white mark ----

now later video shows Cobra hovering above the compound -- this footage has been shot from the hill next to the compound & from a distance --- there are two views, one is from a closer distance & one has been shot from a little more distance -----

how was the Op conducted is beyond me --- may be need to review it little more
but there were more occupants in the office too

 

[BATMAN]

There's a whole in one of the roof, what possibly was dropped over there!
It can't be a missile otherwise room wouldn't have been there!

 

[war&peace]

His parents are brave man... his father was happy at his Shahadat..

Well, sir that distinguishes us Muslims from the rest. This life is temporary. He traded a transient and temporal world for a permanent abode under his Creator's blessings and mercy and finally he will be united with his parents. May Allah raise his ranks and bless his family and friends with patience and content.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Great share mate. Thank you.

Really interested in the system used to shoot the video to begin with. Was they using some cam copter for surveillance purpose? this is be interesting to know.

Also cannot help but notice many security personal in civilian clothing. Agency guys i assume.

@Icarus @balixd @TaimiKhan @Irfan Baloch @Quwa

Plus the video is heavily edited but still some things do not make sense. The SSG guys are shown roaming freely in the same compounds BEFORE they are shown clearing it. Once cleared the roof of one of the rooms collapses but in the time frame when they are shown moving freely in the compound the roof is OK meaning it was BEFORE the clearing operation. The terrorist bodies are shown around the rim of the hill and near the compound meaning our people fought from within and around the compound? WHY CLEAR IT LATER? It is a bit confusing really.

yes this is standard SOP
wish this video was not leaked. what is out is out through other means but I rather we ourselves dont share too much and let the enemies and their "fanbase" keep guessing and thinking that we are lacking.
the operation is multi layered and the number of support personnel is many fold compared to the ones that actually assault a place. video is edited and maybe out of sync as well in terms of some events.
specially in the beginning it suggests that the place was actually looked at by the personnel and later there is a full on fight