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the best defense is offense .. we should have nuke ...
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Its a nice and professional display of the mobile operation regime of the IRGC-ASF medium range SAM force.
These are the medium range units at the frontline, they need high discipline and training level to survive. These hunter units never rest, they are always on the move, they are the defense of higher tier systems like the also displayed Matla ol Fajr 2, Najm 802 and Ghadr.
Nothing really new was shown but some nice details.
They intentionally for example avoided to show the PESA Basir radar of the 3rd Khordad system and just showed the older Kavosh system.
I will repeat it till my other countrymen repeat it and want to acquire it ...حاجی فهمیدیم، شما بمب اتم می خواین، چشم می گم الساعه چندتاش رو براتون بسازن. امر دیگه ای هم هست؟
- I think the IRGC-ASF has got itself the Sayyad-2/Talash because its their first anti ballistic missile asset. The team behind the Sayyad-2 is either a very good one, which has given it a high PK and reliability or the Sayyad-2 offers a different capability such as an dedicated/credible ABM capability (which Taher-2 may lack to that sophistication). In general the Sayyad-2 should be more sophisticated by now because it is being improved for longer because its a older project.
What is better for Iran, a system with a footprint of a truck and 3 SAMs or a system with a footprint of a military vehicle with 4 SAMs?
Yes it looks strange that the IRGC gets itself a endo atmospheric ABM SAM system.
The IRGC Sayyad-2 uses high power radars such as the Najm-802 or what I call the Talash-3. The IRGC Sayyad-2 looks like it is entirely based on electronic steered radars and one of them, the Najm-802 is an overkill for a 70km medium range SAM. So the answer to why Sayyad-2 for the IRGC should be that it is its ABM asset.
Well S-band Najm-802 just to get coarse position data of a stealth target is not consistent with Iranian approach. The long range Bavar-373 does not have such a high performance battery level search radar, so why should the medium range Sayyad-2? Normally a VHF-band asset such as the Matla ol Fajr 2 is used for anti-stealth task.
Hence it looks like the Najm-802 is a starring high resolution radar capable/designed for ABM purposes. The large aperture and power is a plus against stealth targets too, yes.
So either the IRGC-ASF's Sayyad-2 compared to the IRIADF's is for a rather useless reason uprated with electronic steering and high power S-band search radar. Or it is uprated to provide a low-tier ABM capability. Of course we can't exclude that the IRGC-ASF has vast resources to buy S-band AESA radars instead of VHF-band to use their brute force against stealth targets.
Endo stands for inside
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Yes it looks strange that the IRGC gets itself a endo atmospheric ABM SAM system. However as this are the deadliest weapons of the battlefield, so they seem to at least prepare for the future.
The point is: Talash-2 and Sayyad-2 have the exact same range. So why not get Raad-2 batteries instead which were developed by the IRGC-ASF SSJ itself?
The IRGC Sayyad-2 uses high power radars such as the Najm-802 or what I call the Talash-3. The IRGC Sayyad-2 looks like it is entirely based on electronic steered radars and one of them, the Najm-802 is an overkill for a 70km medium range SAM. So the answer to why Sayyad-2 for the IRGC should be that it is its ABM asset.
Other answers would sound strange, like: Sayyad-2 was such a superb product of the defense ministry that the IRGC just purchased it even though it has already a own new SAM system with exactly the same kinematic performance.
Actually the Sayyad-2 is a good missile for endo atmospheric interception of TBM and maybe MRBM, judging from its size and performance.
As for the Buk-M2 size: Its too broad to be mistaken as truck. In real life the launcher of the Buk-M2 is really huge, significantly larger than that of the Raad-2.
From what I know, the problem with the Sayyad-2 missile acting as an endo-atmospheric interceptor is that it does not have the capability to make rapid maneuvers. As far as I know, Sayyad-2 doesn't have additional rocket thrusters, or gas steering nozzles to change course rapidly to make interceptions on maneuverable missiles/warheads.
I'm not sure about the simplicity of DF-3's and DF-21's and if it is similar to a simple Shahab-3 or if it's at the level of a Qiam or anything superior as their would be some difficulties in intercepting such a missile at the moment. Maybe Sayyad-3c compensates for these deficiencies or not, and Sayyad-4 is unknown for the moment but I'm expecting some good news on Sayyad-4 to handle these threats. I'm thinking it would be something similar to missiles used in PAC-3.
Is Sayyad-4 a confirmed project?