US will stand by its defense treaty regarding Diayudai, says Panetta

[shuttler]

After WW2 the US had managed the Islands and then handed the islands to Japan instead of China, although China [Chiang Kai Shek] was an U.S ally against Japan in WW2...

It was a mistake by the yankies. "handed back" was only for the japanese' custodianship. nothing more than that. Under the Cairo Declaration and Potsdam Declaration, the islands should be under the sovereignty of China.

 

[Zero_wing]

It was a mistake by the yankies. "handed back" was only for the japanese' custodianship. nothing more than that. Under the Cairo Declaration and Potsdam Declaration, the islands should be under the sovereignty of China.

Just cry your not getting your way with the world

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

It was a mistake by the yankies. "handed back" was only for the japanese' custodianship. nothing more than that. Under the Cairo Declaration and Potsdam Declaration, the islands should be under the sovereignty of China.

Are you sure that Senkaku/Diaoyu in the lists of the Cairo Declaration and Potsdam Declaration which Japan must return to China after WW2?

 

[Oldman1]

It was a mistake by the yankies. "handed back" was only for the japanese' custodianship. nothing more than that. Under the Cairo Declaration and Potsdam Declaration, the islands should be under the sovereignty of China.

Wasn't a mistake except to you. War with Japan on islands that they had since the 19th century is no brainer that it belong to them. It be like defeating a country and returning to someone else that it has passed to different empires and countries for centuries or thousands of years is unrealistic. Let say Texas was taken, who does it belong to? Mexico? Spanish Empire? Native Americans?

 

[Plexyre]

Are you sure that Senkaku/Diaoyu in the lists of the Cairo Declaration and Potsdam Declaration which Japan must return to China after WW2?

From the Cairo Declaration:

The Three Great Allies are fighting this war to restrain and punish the aggression of Japan. They covet no gain for themselves and have no thought of territorial expansion. It is their purpose that Japan shall be stripped of all the islands in the Pacific which she has seized or occupied since the beginning of the first World War in 1914, and that all the territories Japan has stolen from the Chinese, such as Manchuria, Formosa, and The Pescadores, shall be restored to the Republic of China. Japan will also be expelled from all other territories which she has taken by violence and greed

Cairo Declaration - Wikisource, the free online library

The Diaoyu Islands/Diaoyutai were administrated under Taiwan province (AKA Formosa) prior to Taiwan's annexation by Japan after the first Sino-Japanese war. The Diaoyu Dao/Diaoyutai were then put under Okinawa prefecture.

From the Potsdam Declaration:

(8) The terms of the Cairo Declaration shall be carried out and Japanese sovereignty
shall be limited to the islands of Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu, Shikoku and such minor
islands as we determine.

Potsdam Declaration - Wikisource, the free online library

The Ryukyu Islands were not included in the islands, and indeed the U.S. administered the Ryukyu Islands instead of Japan up to 1971, when the U.S. Congress passed the Okinawan Reversion Treaty, returning the Ryukyu Islands back to Japan. The problem is the U.S. arbitrarily let Japan have administration rights of the Diaoyu Dao/Diaoyutai when it returned the Ryukyu Islands to Japan.

 

[Rusty]

Korea.

1. The US has same treaty obligation on the Liancourt Rocks to Korea as it does to Japan on the Diaoyudai.
2. The easiest and the simplest way to end the Liancourt Rocks disputes if it were ever to come to a military confrontation is to simply acknowledge the status quo, that is to officially acknowledge the Liancourt Rocks as Korean territory. Trying to flip the status quo is messy.

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Japanese in China are escaping mob attacks by claiming to be Korean. This endangers real Koreans as the Chinese mobs eventually figure out that the Japanese are using this trick and would attack real Koreans mistaken as Japanese. One guy in the second link tried this but didn't work for him.

I agree, leave the status quo and move on.
But the problem I see is that it's not the Japanese who are the $hit disterbers, it's the Korean.
They keep crying "Dokdo is our's" to anyone who will listen. hell they even did it in the Olympics.

Advice to Koreans, You have possession of Dokdo right now, so kindly shut the hell up and enjoy your island.

 

[Nan Yang]

You clearly do not understand the difference between "sovereignty" and "administration". The defense treaty covers the "administration" part and has nothing to do with "sovereignty claims". Who cares if the Diaoyudai is disputed? It is clearly under the Japanese administration and that alone qualifies the invocation of the 5th article of the defense treaty. Japan can claim the Liancourt Rocks and Kurils all they want, but the defense treaty doesn't cover those because they are not administered by Japan.

He he he. How do you administer uninhabited islands ?

 

[Zero_wing]

He he he. How do you administer uninhabited islands ?

Man it just keep coming other " hitting the nail on the head"

 

[Korean]

Panetta tells China that Senkakus under Japan-U.S. Security Treaty - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun

Panetta tells China that Senkakus under Japan-U.S. Security Treaty
September 21, 2012

The United States has warned China that the Senkaku Islands were covered by the Japan-U.S. Security Treaty, although it continues to maintain its stance that it would not take sides in the territorial dispute between Japan and China.

Visiting U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told Chinese National Defense Minister Liang Guanglie in Beijing that the security treaty obligating the United States to come to the defense of Japan would be applied to the Senkakus, which are called the Diaoyu Islands in China.

A high-ranking U.S. government official in a position to know the details of the Sept. 18 meeting between Panetta and Liang confirmed to The Asahi Shimbun what the U.S. defense secretary said.

The source added that Liang expressed China's strong opposition to having the security treaty applied to the Senkakus.

However, Panetta told Liang that there was no change in Washington's long-held stance that it would fulfill its obligations under the security treaty.

So the US position was delivered to the Chinese defense minister in person, so no uncertainties about this.