US will stand by its defense treaty regarding Diayudai, says Panetta

[Rusty]

I wonder who the US will side with when Korea and Japan eventually start fighting over Dokdo/Takashima?
That will be the time to grab some popcorn and enjoy the circus show.

 

[Korean]

I wonder who the US will side with when Korea and Japan eventually start fighting over Dokdo/Takashima?

Korea.

1. The US has same treaty obligation on the Liancourt Rocks to Korea as it does to Japan on the Diaoyudai.
2. The easiest and the simplest way to end the Liancourt Rocks disputes if it were ever to come to a military confrontation is to simply acknowledge the status quo, that is to officially acknowledge the Liancourt Rocks as Korean territory. Trying to flip the status quo is messy.

Damn, some alarming news.

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【北京発】語尾に「スãƒ*ニダ」で韓国人のふり　尖閣デモ過熱で日本人が「防衛ç*–」 (2/2) : J-CASTモノウォッチ

Japanese in China are escaping mob attacks by claiming to be Korean. This endangers real Koreans as the Chinese mobs eventually figure out that the Japanese are using this trick and would attack real Koreans mistaken as Japanese. One guy in the second link tried this but didn't work for him.

 

[terranMarine]

I don't think Japan has the guts to buy Dokdo as we all know that US is protecting both nations. It would be very interesting if South Korea is proposing the same as Japan and try to purchase it at this right moment. That will put the US in a very awkward position if tensions between these two rises.

 

[Korean]

I'm not very sure who he is but many in here suspect he's an Indian national.

You are wrong.

Iin fact I wouldn't surprised the two countries will team up together against Japan in their respective disputes by backing each others' claims.

Well, so you haven't heard of Chinese claims into Korean EEZ, where China is claiming that they deserve a larger EEZ than the half-way line in the Yellow Sea because they have more far population. And the biggest territorial dispute of East Asia, the Kando(The Eastern Manchuria) is outstanding.

 

[Korean]

I don't think Japan has the guts to buy Dokdo

There is no Japanese citizen who claims to own the Liancourt Rocks.

This wasn't the case with the Diaoyudai, which did have a private owner and there was a three-way bidding war between the Tokyo Prefecture, the Japan central government, and the China central government, which bid whopping $340 million(10 times what the Japanese central government bid and would have easily paid $1 billion if the owner was willing to sell to China.

if South Korea is proposing the same as Japan and try to purchase it at this right moment.

The Liancourt Rocks are already a government property.

 

[ahfatzia]

You are wrong.


Well, so you haven't heard of Chinese claims into Korean EEZ, where China is claiming that they deserve a larger EEZ than the half-way line in the Yellow Sea because they have more far population. And the biggest territorial dispute of East Asia, the Kando(The Eastern Manchuria) is outstanding.

No need to yell, I never said you're an Indian.

The Kando issue will never come up and Irredentism is only a pipe dream for some nationalist like you. Any source for the EEZ dispute I honestly never heard of it.

 

[ahfatzia]

Tokyo said 11 Chinese government vessels had entered the area.

Two Japan Coast Guard ships, center and right in foreground, sail ahead of a fleet of Chinese surveillance ships as a Japanese media company's small jet flies by near disputed islands, called Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China, in the East China Sea, Tuesday afternoon, Sept. 18. (AP/AFP/CNA)

China boats enter disputed waters amid anti-Japan rallies - The China Post

It looks like the 11 Chinese vessels are chasing after the two Japanese Coast Guard ships.

As demonstrations across China continue....

 

[Plexyre]

Any source for the EEZ dispute I honestly never heard of it.

Socotra Rock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is important to note that it is a submerged rock and under UNCLOS, no nation can claim it as such. Instead, China and South Korea claim the waters around it and nearby as part of their EEZ.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

After WW2 the US had managed the Islands and then handed the islands to Japan instead of China, although China [Chiang Kai Shek] was an U.S ally against Japan in WW2...

 

[kawaraj]

Korea.

1. The US has same treaty obligation on the Liancourt Rocks to Korea as it does to Japan on the Diaoyudai.
2. The easiest and the simplest way to end the Liancourt Rocks disputes if it were ever to come to a military confrontation is to simply acknowledge the status quo, that is to officially acknowledge the Liancourt Rocks as Korean territory. Trying to flip the status quo is messy.

Damn, some alarming news.

Žv‚킸uŠØ‘lv‚Ɓcƒfƒ‚‚Ì—’‚É‘§ö‚ß‚é–Ml : ŽÐ‰ï : YOMIURI ONLINEi“Ç”„V•·j
【北京発】語尾に「スãƒ*ニダ」で韓国人のふり　尖閣デモ過熱で日本人が「防衛ç*–」 (2/2) : J-CASTモノウォッチ

Japanese in China are escaping mob attacks by claiming to be Korean. This endangers real Koreans as the Chinese mobs eventually figure out that the Japanese are using this trick and would attack real Koreans mistaken as Japanese. One guy in the second link tried this but didn't work for him.

what a wonderful joke.

Firstly between Korea and Japan the United States just choose who's the expendable, which is obvious. Japan is an important world power for 100 years, Korea is only an insignificant former colonial state. The US will side with KOrea by stay away from Japan, that's a heavenly JOKE.

Secondly Japanese will never pretend to be Koreans, who as regarded by Japanese as inferior people.

Even Koreans look different from Japanese or Chinese. They have flat forehead and flat wide space between eyebrows. The Japanese and Chinese usually have stereoscopic face and narrow and somewhat big nose. Koreans look more like Mongolian than to Chinese or Japanese.

 

[Korean]

The Kando issue will never come up

Sure it will, after the collapse of North Korea.

what a wonderful joke.

I forgot you admitted that you didn't read Japanese, because that's exactly what the Yomiuri article is reporting.

Firstly between Korea and Japan the United States just choose who's the expendable, which is obvious.

And the US chose Korea back in 1952, and put the Liancourt Rocks under the KADIZ.

Japan is an important world power for 100 years

And in a fast decline for the past 20 years.

Secondly Japanese will never pretend to be Koreans

But that's exactly what's happening in China right now according to various Japanese reports.

who as regarded by Japanese as inferior people.

And Koreans think Japanese of the same too.

Even Koreans look different from Japanese or Chinese.

Then blame it on the Chinese who couldn't tell Japanese apart from Koreans.

The Japanese and Chinese usually have stereoscopic face and narrow and somewhat big nose. Koreans look more like Mongolian than to Chinese or Japanese.

Japanese rightwingers would kill you for saying that, since you just claimed Japanese looked like Chinese and that's a grave insult to Japanese.

 

[kawaraj]

I think the Japanese and Chinese have the same opinion on how Koreans look.

In Japan Koreans are called "棒" too, in the context of "泥棒", signifying the high robbery and crime rate of Korean population in Japan.

 

[Korean]

I think the Japanese and Chinese have the same opinion on how Koreans look.

In Japan Koreans are called "棒" too, in the context of "泥棒", signifying the high robbery and crime rate of Korean population in Japan.

I actually searched for this new term "泥棒" on google and it confirms it's not used in Japan, but used extensively in China instead.

How do I know? Because Japanese nationalists flood Korean message boards thanks to the magic of translation software(Some Korean sites have 90% of traffic coming from Japan), and I know exactly what derogatory terms they use to describe Koreans.

 

[kawaraj]

I actually searched for this new term "泥棒" on google and it confirms it's not used in Japan, but used extensively in China instead.

How do I know? Because Japanese nationalists flood Korean message boards thanks to the magic of translation software(Some Korean sites have 90% of traffic coming from Japan), and I know exactly what derogatory terms they use to describe Koreans.

what ? !

やっぱり 外人.... you don't even know how to use Google Japan.

let me tell you if you want to search Kanji(Chinese Characters) in Google.com, most contents are hijacked by mainstream Chinese.

Next time use Google.co.jp to fabricate what you want to lie.

as to what derogatory terms used to describe Koreans, there are many and I don't want to learn those or inform peoples on the forum.

Don't let people look down on you, Korean.

 

[ahfatzia]

"We take absolutely no position on who is right, and we do believe that both sides need to try to resolve this." Gary Locke said last week.

“But the United States, as a matter of policy, does not take a position with regards to competing sovereignty claims.” Said Pannetta told announced this week while he's visiting Japan.