US will not pay Pakistan for military reimbursements: Pentagon

[DjSnake]

I actually have agreement on us will not leave the Afghanistan, the reason is Pakistan. They are using Haqqanis to further their agenda and for the sake of Pakistan, they want to burn Afghanistan. Why you are allowing him stay in Pakistan and destabilize Afghanistan. Why do you not let Afghanistan work on its own problems?

India just wants to use Afghanistan against Pakistan. You hate Pashtuns and everybody knows that. Americans already committing a genocide against them hence why resistance will always remain due to occupation.

Nobody in Pakistan wants Afghanistan to "burn" you idiot. They want a thriving and educated Afghanistan because its beneficial to both countries just like in the past. Also Pakistanis want the refugees to return in a respectful manner and rebuild their nation and Pakistani are more than willing to help.

 

[YeBeWarned]

I actually have agreement on us will not leave the Afghanistan, the reason is Pakistan. They are using Haqqanis to further their agenda and for the sake of Pakistan, they want to burn Afghanistan. Why you are allowing him stay in Pakistan and destabilize Afghanistan. Why do you not let Afghanistan work on its own problems?

because Haqqani is not a High school bully , he is a powerful lord, his network is spread across the Afghanistan and Pakistani Region, we are not opening another front .. Pakistan is already Fighting TTP,JUA , ISIS and BLA along with heated LoC .. Americans are not Liberators in Afghanistan they are seen as Invaders no matter what American say Afghans will never Follow a Gori chamri . its simply not in their DNA , Americans will stuck in Afghanistan and if the day ever comes when they leave they will blame Pakistan support One fraction of Taliban ( haqqani ) for his failures , US has a history of doing that ..

 

[Hulk]

because Haqqani is not a High school bully , he is a powerful lord, his network is spread across the Afghanistan and Pakistani Region, we are not opening another front .. Pakistan is already Fighting TTP,JUA , ISIS and BLA along with heated LoC .. Americans are not Liberators in Afghanistan they are seen as Invaders no matter what American say Afghans will never Follow a Gori chamri . its simply not in their DNA , Americans will stuck in Afghanistan and if the day ever comes when they leave they will blame Pakistan support One fraction of Taliban ( haqqani ) for his failures , US has a history of doing that ..

Its not about opening another front, it surely is not. You are more than happy to open another front in Kashmir. You are actually helping him survive and grow. PA passes information that helps him grow and survive.

India just wants to use Afghanistan against Pakistan. You hate Pashtuns and everybody knows that. Americans already committing a genocide against them hence why resistance will always remain due to occupation.

Nobody in Pakistan wants Afghanistan to "burn" you idiot. They want a thriving and educated Afghanistan because its beneficial to both countries just like in the past. Also Pakistanis want the refugees to return in a respectful manner and rebuild their nation and Pakistani are more than willing to help.

India just wants to do business in Afghanistan, use their minerals for development. We are not a security state and not everything is around security.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Its not about opening another front, it surely is not. You are more than happy to open another front in Kashmir. You are actually helping him survive and grow. PA passes information that helps him grow and survive.

On numerous places PA has said that they lost almost all Leverage over Afghan Taliban, Mullah mansoor was last person Pakistan might bring to the table but his death was last nail in the coffin .. now Taliban listen to no one , and will never come to Table until they have certain sureties .
Pakistan is clearing its Tribal Areas, Zarb-e-Azb, Raad-ul-Fasaad and Kyber-4 Operations ... it will take some time but eventually Haqqani'es will be cornered , and once they have no Allies left in Area, they will eventually come to Table with Americans ..
Either you or Americans like it or not, Without Pakistan this region will never see Peace ..

 

[Hulk]

On numerous places PA has said that they lost almost all Leverage over Afghan Taliban, Mullah mansoor was last person Pakistan might bring to the table but his death was last nail in the coffin .. now Taliban listen to no one , and will never come to Table until they have certain sureties .
Pakistan is clearing its Tribal Areas, Zarb-e-Azb, Raad-ul-Fasaad and Kyber-4 Operations ... it will take some time but eventually Haqqani'es will be cornered , and once they have no Allies left in Area, they will eventually come to Table with Americans ..
Either you or Americans like it or not, Without Pakistan this region will never see Peace ..

I just read your signature and realize that I should not talk to someone who has that kind of generalization for the entire country. Pathetic signature, every Indian has a shitty mouth and you are talking to Indian. appalling.

 

[rustom]

I just read your signature and realize that I should not talk to someone who has that kind of generalization for the entire country. Pathetic signature, every Indian has a shitty mouth and you are talking to Indian. appalling.

Not his problem, blame his shitty madrasa education.

 

[umair86pk]

Screw Americans we don't need their funds. Go certify Indian Congress instead of your own Congress Secretary James Mattis. We should stop all supplies to Afghanistan and close our airspace to transit flights to Afghanistan and also fence the Afghan border let the Afghans and the supporters like Asfandyar and Achakzai die from barking like mad dogs than Americans will have some sense in their nutcases.

 

[Clutch]

You wish. NATO will continue it's actions. The last thing your strategic planners want is an angry west.
Even with cuts in fund, you will have to let them pass.

No payment no pass... it's an easy fix. They don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[YeBeWarned]

I just read your signature and realize that I should not talk to someone who has that kind of generalization for the entire country. Pathetic signature, every Indian has a shitty mouth and you are talking to Indian. appalling.

your countrymen are foul mouthing my dead soldiers, civilians etc .. just go through any LoC firing related incident and see for yourself, even senior and members i respect now resort to cheap comments. .

 

[DJ_Viper]

My Dear,
i would like to raise a few pointers as you have showed a very gloomy picture of Pakistan to Pakistani's and stating that all i good else where.
1.First you told us that Pakistan is extremist country and you gave example of US, UK, Germany, India. Might i say are you so naive. Extremism is extremism, have you forgotten about Hitler for germany, IRA for UK, maosists naxals, gao rakhshaks in india, For US please answer how many people died in gun related violence and extemist treatments of african americans in US. So please do ask the people of these countries the same questions as you are asking the people of pakistan.
2. You stated that an army person cannot run a country or economy. So by you logic, US should have been bankrupt by now as out of the 44 presidents of the United States, 29 had some military experience in their background. Now u have donald trump (a civilian businessman) and best of luck
3. You mentioned about Pak army and it being very powerful in the country but have u seen the pentagon and its power in your country. It can be seen in the policy making and in some instances the fleet commander has more say than the ambassador in a specified country.
4. Yes, US was at fault when it comes to my country. As after 65 we were sanctioned and during the time india was being equipped to the teeth by USSR u did nothing. During 71 u sent the a fleet but did nothing and please dont say that USSR was there. we know u even sent sr71 flights over sinai i 73 to assist israelis. The point i am trying to make is that, you only assist when its you interest and when it comes to pakistan interest well dont need to say more.
5. you said, "A military serves a nation. Not the other way around" kindly elaborate on what Pak army is doing what the US army is not doing. Has the US army recommendations to go to war and damaging the US economy and the world not damaged the entire situation.
6. you said, "Take a look at your neighbor and her growth." With all the money India has please divide by the population and you will get the real figures. We dont need to see them as we are performing better as per our standards and will keep on improving. The only reason for our slowed down economy is WOT. As we are now on top of things we will come out of it.

lastly, Pakistan is a very resilient nation! we have seen ups and downs but we are still standing and moving forward. In the world today no country has made a rebound out of a civil war against extremism as Pakistan has done. So please please please don't advise us again on this matter.

1) We are in 2017, the silly examples of Hitler and IRA don't apply. This is your issue, you guys want your country to still be run like it was back in 70-80's! This is 2017, wake up and give me relevant examples. Pakistan wasn't an extremist country, many actions taken internally by your military created that intense internal religion focused system, which was then supplemented by the Afghan drama.

2) US Presidents having "some military background"and active service dictators running the country are two different things. How easily you forgot the difference and linked a democratically elected system with dictatorship that overwrites an entire nation's constitution.

3) Pakistan is a resilient nation, I am a big believer in that. But you have to maintain your political stability and let civilians run the country and produce results. 45 years of military regimes have destroyed your country a lot, add 15 years of force-failing the democratic systems in it too. The cost is just too much. What is getting built in Pakistan today, could've been built back in the 60's when you were helping the Saudis and the South Koreans in learning "how to grow your economy"! So as you can see, I know your nations talent very well and the history. I am just outlining the reasons why as a system you are nowhere near your potential and it will be the case till the system is military and leg-pulling free!

If you don't have anything positive to say relevant to my comments, at the least don't write this stuff from 1930's and compare it with 2017, or dictatorships with democratic American presidents. Comparing Apples and Melons doesn't produce any relevance and actually shows me that your post is a childish response without a real argument or facts!

 

[Gulraiz Nasir]

American aid to Pak for 2016: $900 million dollars
Chinese investment in Pakistan in 2016: $60 billion dollars.
Americans are no body to pakistan at the moment

Time to close the nato supply lines again like we do annually, a few months without food and water coming through Pakistan and the americans will come to their senses again.

Hats off very well said, this is a voice of a real patriotic Pakistani and show the spirit of nationalism to stop importing Indian products and complete boycott Indian movies. Beside these measures, the need of the time is to totally block all Indian trade to Afghanistan and Iran through Pakistan untill these countries should realize Pakistan's importance as also stress these countries to stop terrorism in Pakistan.

 

[Gulraiz Nasir]

1) We are in 2017, the silly examples of Hitler and IRA don't apply. This is your issue, you guys want your country to still be run like it was back in 70-80's! This is 2017, wake up and give me relevant examples. Pakistan wasn't an extremist country, many actions taken internally by your military created that intense internal religion focused system, which was then supplemented by the Afghan drama.

2) US Presidents having "some military background"and active service dictators running the country are two different things. How easily you forgot the difference and linked a democratically elected system with dictatorship that overwrites an entire nation's constitution.

3) Pakistan is a resilient nation, I am a big believer in that. But you have to maintain your political stability and let civilians run the country and produce results. 45 years of military regimes have destroyed your country a lot, add 15 years of force-failing the democratic systems in it too. The cost is just too much. What is getting built in Pakistan today, could've been built back in the 60's when you were helping the Saudis and the South Koreans in learning "how to grow your economy"! So as you can see, I know your nations talent very well and the history. I am just outlining the reasons why as a system you are nowhere near your potential and it will be the case till the system is military and leg-pulling free!

If you don't have anything positive to say relevant to my comments, at the least don't write this stuff from 1930's and compare it with 2017, or dictatorships with democratic American presidents. Comparing Apples and Melons doesn't produce any relevance and actually shows me that your post is a childish response without a real argument or facts!

World knows that it was a biggest success and achievement in the American history of breaking USSR with the help of Pakistan. The war was not over but Americans left Pakistan on the mercy of american made talibans and terrorists to deal at their own. To "DO MORE" policy, this aid is a lollipop, in return, Pakistan has suffered around 80,000 precious human lives and around a hundred billion dollars loss monetarily. Now americans see no interest, they leave Pakistan alone.

 

[wiseone2]

World knows that it was a biggest success and achievement in the American history of breaking USSR with the help of Pakistan. The war was not over but Americans left Pakistan on the mercy of american made talibans and terrorists to deal at their own. To "DO MORE" policy, this aid is a lollipop, in return, Pakistan has suffered around 80,000 precious human lives and around a hundred billion dollars loss monetarily. Now americans see no interest, they leave Pakistan alone.

To say the Afghan war broke USSR is silly

 

[Hulk]

your countrymen are foul mouthing my dead soldiers, civilians etc .. just go through any LoC firing related incident and see for yourself, even senior and members i respect now resort to cheap comments. .

I can say the same for your countrymen I see on forum. That does not make me use that kind of language. Don't generalise it, if someone said give it back to them. I also see hear lot of things here that make me angry. However I choose to not let it take over me. Take it as an advice if you can.

 

[DJ_Viper]

World knows that it was a biggest success and achievement in the American history of breaking USSR with the help of Pakistan. The war was not over but Americans left Pakistan on the mercy of american made talibans and terrorists to deal at their own. To "DO MORE" policy, this aid is a lollipop, in return, Pakistan has suffered around 80,000 precious human lives and around a hundred billion dollars loss monetarily. Now americans see no interest, they leave Pakistan alone.

My post has nothing to do with your response. Nor did Pakistan was the only country in the alliance to break the USSR. Try to address my post please.