US wants India's direct intervention in the South China Sea row

[The SC]

Why, who in South Asia can challenge Indian Navy in Indian Ocean?..Certainly not Pakistan..I hope you do know that.

They are not talking about the Indian ocean if you have noticed.
To unswer you, China can do that if India gets involved in China's affairs. And Pakistan can challenge the Indian navy in the Indian ocean with its submarines if things come to that, this is an extreme, but you asked.

 

[Mitro]

China is the future why become enemy of a country who will be biggest economy in the world and why support a country who is broke and just believing in printing money.

Indian leadership is not stupid to take US dictate but if they do then china is not some faraway country it will teach a nasty lesson to india .

it will slap indian navy when ever they enter SC and poor Indian will be looking at their new master with hope of interfering but to their disbelieve they will be enjoying with a popcorn.

 

[NKVD]

lol which fighter plane has no issues ? have you even go through the PDF ? even F-35 has issues in the beginning .. so what ? it cant be fix ? that is what you think ..

now J-10 might not be good as compared to its rivals but much better than your upcoming Tejas , even if it ever come out ..

and they are already making J-31 and J-20 .. so its just matter of time they will fix their issues ..

you are yet to produce one unit of your tejas .. in years now .. all we hear just talking , there is a reason why you are the biggest importer of Arms ,

Again your back to same fanboyish rhetorics

Now you are maligning US tech
Gosh I have seen many trolls who worship f-16's like god some claim it will eat MKi's alive

Leave f-35 apart kid it has sensor fusion tech which is beyond any country reach atleast for two decades

As for LCA we created almost 14
Without serial production start we tested both in air force and naval modes .its now in series productions rate which will be increase to 16 per year after 2018.
Wheareas have you ever seen a production rate of jf-17 which is pathetic from all standards even your expertise confess that.

 

[ares]

They are not talking about the Indian ocean if you have noticed.
To unswer you, China can do that if India gets involved in China's affairs. And Pakistan can challenge the Indian navy in the Indian ocean with its submarines if things come to that, this is an extreme, but you asked.

I specifically highlighted part of your post, where you said

"The US wants India to do what it can not do itself in South Asia"

As long as Choke point Chinese entry into Indian ocean i.e Andaman and Nicobar islands are Indian control, China can not effectively challenge India
in South Asia.

Pakistan Navy has never posed any sort of challenge to India in past either, nor does it now, with its depleted force.

Submarines are only a threat as long as they are hidden, Power projection can not be done by submarines..much less conventional submarines with no nuclear weapons..and Pakistan has only three moderately advanced subs..rest two are nearly four decades old.

In 1971, Pakistan had ten submarines(including 6 midgets subs) and India had none..still Pakistani subs had very minimal effect on Indo-Pak Naval war.

 

[NKVD]

China is the future why become enemy of a country who will be biggest economy in the world and why support a country who is broke and just believing in printing money.

Indian leadership is not stupid to take US dictate but if they do then china is not some faraway country it will teach a nasty lesson to india .

it will slap indian navy when ever they enter SC and poor Indian will be looking at their new master with hope of interfering but to their disbelieve they will be enjoying with a popcorn.

You think india is sitting there to watch China to grow meanwhile we surpassed them for being fastest growing economy this year

India is rising counter balance for Chinese it's size & it's market is equal to size of China with US technological help India can achieve miles together with Japanese & other allies we will encircle China.

China lacks innovations unlike Japanese & western they cannot achieve everything with money.
There fake economic figures and reverse engineering tech will cost them some day.

 

[The SC]

I specifically highlighted part of your post, where you said

"The US wants India to do what it can not do itself in South Asia"

As long as Choke point Chinese entry into Indian ocean i.e Andaman and Nicobar islands are Indian control, China can not effectively challenge India
in South Asia.

Pakistan Navy has never posed any sort of challenge to India in past either, nor does it now, with its depleted force.

Submarines are only a threat as long as they are hidden, Power projection can not be done by submarines..much less conventional submarines with no nuclear weapons..and Pakistan has only three moderately advanced subs..rest two are nearly four decades old.

That is your opinion about the chinese capabilities and I respect it without agreeing on it, since those choke points can be overwhelmed or bypassed! China, in my opinion can not be challenged by anyone else than the US and that would be at a very high risk...
Pakistan has the most sophisticated submarines in that area, with AIP they can stay underwater and undetected for a month or so... do not tell me that it will not pose any threat or challenge to the IN.

 

[Mitro]

How can they because china is buying their dept without china US dollar bye bye.

The US wants India to do what it can not do itself in South Asia, this tells a lot about getting India trapped in some kind of war that most nations of the area are avoiding with diplomatic talks.
In other words the US is asking India to further its own interests and policies, without ever thinking about the risks involved and their consequences on the Area...for some weapons that were proven very efficient against... civilians and some very limited nuclear technologies.
China won't allow any kind of Indian hegemony in South East Asia. They have gotten very aggressive with the US itself everytime it wanted to test the waters. So, does not the US wants to be replaced in that role? And what is better than a 1 billion populated nation to do that...? at its own expense.(while hoping for some high tech).

 

[Jobless Jack]

i just got one question

you got more than half your airforce and 2/3 of you army in the "non threating " pakistan border.

ok

exactly how is india going intervene in south china sea row ?

 

[The SC]

How can they because china is buying their dept without china US dollar bye bye.

No, actually, according to some Americans, the US is worth over 80 trillion $ in resources...! Go figure.
But , according to the known facts I do agree with you.

 

[45'22']

i just got one question

you got more than half your airforce and 2/3 of you army in the "non threating " pakistan border.

ok

exactly how is india going intervene in south china sea row ?

Our Navy is idle

 

[Jobless Jack]

Our Navy is idle

navy without strong air support in foreign waters ?


target practice

 

[ares]

That is your opinion about the chinese capabilities and I respect it without agreeing on it, sice those choke points can be overwhelmed or bypassed!
Pakistan has the most sophisticated submarines in that area, with AIP they can stay underwater and undetected for a month or so... do not tell me that it will not pose any threat or challenge to the IN.

No, INS Chakra is the most sophisticated submarine in south asia..which can stay under water indefinitely, while cruising at 35 knots with the ability to launch 3M-54 Club LACMs..an AIP sub can do measly 3-4 knots at on battery power...soon it will be Indian navy's scorpene class subs..not to forget Indian boomers.

As I said before

In 1971, Pakistan had ten submarines(including 6 midgets subs) and India had none..still Pakistani subs had very minimal effect on Indo-Pak Naval war.

Having 3 moderately advanced and 2 Ageing subs against Indian fleet of 13 conventional, 2 Nuclear subs(Akula and Arihant) does not present much of threat..especially since India has 6 more conventional and 3 nuclear(2 Arihant class and 1 Akula) in the pipeline.

 

[45'22']

China is the future why become enemy of a country who will be biggest economy in the world and why support a country who is broke and just believing in printing money.

Indian leadership is not stupid to take US dictate but if they do then china is not some faraway country it will teach a nasty lesson to india .

it will slap indian navy when ever they enter SC and poor Indian will be looking at their new master with hope of interfering but to their disbelieve they will be enjoying with a popcorn.

As long as China stays out of IN .....India will not be involved in SCS

navy without strong air support in foreign waters ?


target practice

Navy is having an air arm of itself

Btw....I was kidding,why on Earth would India get involved in SCS without any reason

 

[Raul_AD]

That is your opinion about the chinese capabilities and I respect it without agreeing on it, since those choke points can be overwhelmed or bypassed! China, in my opinion can not be challenged by anyone else than the US and that would be at a very high risk...
Pakistan has the most sophisticated submarines in that area, with AIP they can stay underwater and undetected for a month or so... do not tell me that it will not pose any threat or challenge to the IN.

Do you know what you are saying???? Overwhelming a land mass (Andaman) and air power(SU-30MKI) supported by decent navy by some floating vessels???? Do China has Aircraft Carrier technology at par America????

Bypassed the only bypass is all the encircling Australia!!!!! This is neither feasible nor possible in cold and rough seas of Antarctic.

Which sub is superior???? Nuclear SSN INS Chakra or any Pakistani AIP Sub?????

Boy you are amazing!!!

 

[45'22']

No, INS Chakra is the most sophisticated submarine in south asia..which can stay under water indefinitely, while cruising at 35 knots with the ability to launch 3M-54 Club LACMs..an AIP sub can do measly 3-4 knots at on battery power...soon it will be Indian navy's scorpene class subs..not to forget Indian boomers.

As I said before

In 1971, Pakistan had ten submarines(including 6 midgets subs) and India had none..still Pakistani subs had very minimal effect on Indo-Pak Naval war.

Having 3 moderately advanced and 2 Ageing subs against Indian fleet of 13 conventional, 2 Nuclear subs(Akula and Arihant) does not present much of threat..especially since India has 6 more conventional and 3 nuclear(2 Arihant class and 1 Akula) in the pipeline.

Forget Pakistan,now China is also not in a position to face the Indian Navy in Indian ocean
It's our backyard and only US has enuff power to penetrate it

SCS is a different ball game though