What's new

US Suggests Working with Pakistan to Beat Terrorism

Musafir117

ELITE MEMBER
Joined
Mar 11, 2014
Messages
9,613
Reaction score
-3
Country
Pakistan
Location
Australia
US suggests working with Pakistan to beat terrorists
ANWAR IQBAL — UPDATED about an hour ago
WHATSAPP 2 COMMENTS EMAIL PRINT
WASHINGTON: The United States would like to maintain close ties with Pakistan and to use those ties to persuade Islamabad to change its policies towards Afghanistan, US lawmakers and a top American general indicated at the latest Congressional hearing on the situation in Afghanistan.

Although the hearing focused on Afghanistan, Pakistan was mentioned 73 times in this hours-long meeting on Wednesday while there were also dozens of indirect references to the country’s role in the Afghan conflict.

Senator John McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, set the tone of the discussion in his opening statement, saying that “succeeding in Afghanistan will also require a candid evaluation of America’s relationship with Pakistan”.

Examine: Reorienting Pak-US ties

ARTICLE CONTINUES AFTER AD

And the hearing’s sole witness, Gen John Nicholson Jr, commander of the US and international forces in Afghanistan, advocated for working with Pakistan and its military to stabilise Afghanistan and defeat extremists.

He disagreed with a suggestion that cutting off US aid to Pakistan would force it to cooperate. Every time he was asked about stopping US assistance, he emphasised the need for diplomatic engagement with Islamabad.

Senator McCain, a regular visitor to both Afghanistan and Pakistan, underlined the US dilemma on this issue. Acknowledging that thousands of Pakistanis had sacrificed their lives in the fight against terrorists, he said: “But the fact remains that numerous terrorist groups still operate within Pakistan, attack its neighbours and kill US forces.”

The senator, who also visited North Waziristan last year, praised Pakistan for conducting a successful military operation in that area, but said that this was not helping the US forces combating terrorists in Afghanistan.

“Put simply, our mission in Afghanistan is immeasurably more difficult, if not impossible, while our enemies possess a safe haven in Pakistan. These sanctuaries must be eliminated,” he said.

Senator McCain urged the new US administration to work with Congress to “determine what additional actions are necessary, to ensure that the enemies we continue to fight in Afghanistan can find no sanctuary in Pakistan or in any other country”.

Senator Jack Reed, the committee’s ranking Democrat, insisted that the alleged Pakistani support for extremist groups in Afghanistan, “whether it is passive or deliberate, must end if we and Afghanistan are to achieve necessary levels of security”.

He pointed to another dilemma that US forces in the region face, militants fleeing to Afghanistan when Pakistan launches an operation against them in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata).

“What we need to do concerning the safe haven issue in Pakistan?” asked Senator McCain.

“Sir, it’s very difficult to succeed on the battlefield when your enemy enjoys external support and safe haven. I think we need to continue to work closely with Pakistan,” the general replied.

“The Pakistanis did some good work in North Waziristan, right?” asked the senator. “They did, sir. And we have great respect for the operation they conducted in Waziristan. It was a very large and significant operation and they suffered heavy casualties,” said Gen Nicholson.

“But the problem is the Haqqani network, especially in places like Quetta, right?” asked Senator McCain.

“Sir, that’s correct. We still have enemy sanctuary in areas like Quetta, like you mention, with the Taliban leadership, and other cities within the tribal areas for the Haqqani leadership,” Gen Nicholson said.

“You have had some dealings with the new chief of staff at the army. I don’t know if you’ve had any dealings with the new head of ISI, but does it make sense to focus our persuasive efforts on specific sub elements within Pakistan?” asked Senator Reed.

“Sir, I have a great respect for the Pakistan military and its leaders. I’m developing, I believe, a positive and constructive relationship with Gen Bajwa and his team. And again, we have great respect for the operations they’ve conducted in Fata,” Gen Nicholson replied.

“The Pakistan people have also suffered from the scourge of terrorism. And I quite sincerely want to eliminate those terrorists that are attacking their society,” he said.

Increasing pressure
The general then explained how the United States forces could help Pakistan fight the terrorists, noting that recently US counterterrorism forces killed Omar Khalifa, the head of the Tariq Gidar Group who perpetrated the “horrendous attack” on the Peshawar Army School, which killed over 130 children. Also, in a raid last year in eastern Afghanistan, US forces rescued Haider Gilani, the son of a former Pakistani prime minister.

Emphasising the need to improve cooperation between the US and Pakistani forces, Gen Nicholson suggested increasing the pressure applied on the Haqqanis and the Taliban on the Pakistan side of the border.

Senator Angus King, an independent lawmaker who caucuses with the Democrats, asked the general if “cutting off funding” would persuade Pakistan to eliminate the alleged safe havens in Fata.

The general, however, suggested conducting “a holistic review” of America’s Pakistan policy and to “sit down with” Pakistani leaders to do so.

“We have many areas where we could be working together for our mutual benefit. And I think this is a key to the future,” he said.

“I’m personally committed to this and working with my Pakistani counterparts… in my initial conversations with my chain of command, this is a high priority for all of us.”

Gen Nicholson expressed hope that the new administration in Washington would conduct this “holistic review”.

When Republican Senator David Perdue also suggested using US aid to Pakistan as leverage, Gen Nicholson underlined the need for “working closely with the Pakistanis to eliminate or reduce sanctuary for the Taliban, Haqqani and other groups inside Pakistan”.

“Are we getting the kind of cooperation that we need from the Pakistanis?” asked Senator Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat.

“We’d like to see greater cooperation,” the general replied.

“Where, specifically has it been deficient?” asked the senator.

“Specifically sir, with respect to the Haqqani network and the Taliban sanctuaries and presence inside Pakistan,” the general said.

Asked to identify the areas of concern, Gen Nicholson named Fata, areas around Quetta and Waziristan, where, he claimed, the Haqqani leadership resided. Those areas, he said, had bedevilled US forces for years.

“Are we doing enough to bring pressure to bear on the Pakistani government to be more aggressive and active?” Senator Blumenthal asked.

“I think we need to do a holistic review of our relationship with Pakistan. There are many areas of common interest, where we could work together.

And we want to achieve progress in these areas but you’re absolutely right, it’s been frustrating,” the general said.

“We need to keep military pressure on the Taliban and… through diplomatic engagement with the Pakistanis to increase pressure on that side of the border. So this would be a whole of government approach but the objective of this would be an eventual reconciliation. This will take some years I believe,” he added.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1314146/us-suggests-working-with-pakistan-to-beat-terrorists
-----------
So! It was mostly about Afghanistan! Uncle Sam realising now the presence of Russia and China in the matter take them out from Afghanistan picture someday soon And Kkhotti ( donkey ) come back on point zero with Pakistan.
Other mean bye bye India from Afghanistan as Pakistan doesn't want the black elephant in neighbor to sit down on issues of Afghanistan.
 
.
“Put simply, our mission in Afghanistan is immeasurably more difficult, if not impossible, while our enemies possess a safe haven in Pakistan. These sanctuaries must be eliminated,” he said.

“But the fact remains that numerous terrorist groups still operate within Pakistan, attack its neighbours and kill US forces.”


Senator McCain, as it stands, Afghan Taliban control huge swaths of Afghanistan, TTP is based out of Nangarhar province of Afghanistan and so is ISIL. Welcome to 2017!

Here's a refresher:

drhAdso.jpg


And we want to achieve progress in these areas but you’re absolutely right, it’s been frustrating,” the general said.


Gen. Nicholson, its been frustrating because you want Pakistan to continue to spill more blood for you and create more enemies for itself. We lost over $150 billion economically. We like to focus on feeding our people.
 
Last edited:
.
US suggests working with Pakistan to beat terrorists
ANWAR IQBAL — UPDATED about an hour ago
WHATSAPP 2 COMMENTS EMAIL PRINT
WASHINGTON: The United States would like to maintain close ties with Pakistan and to use those ties to persuade Islamabad to change its policies towards Afghanistan, US lawmakers and a top American general indicated at the latest Congressional hearing on the situation in Afghanistan.

Although the hearing focused on Afghanistan, Pakistan was mentioned 73 times in this hours-long meeting on Wednesday while there were also dozens of indirect references to the country’s role in the Afghan conflict.

Senator John McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, set the tone of the discussion in his opening statement, saying that “succeeding in Afghanistan will also require a candid evaluation of America’s relationship with Pakistan”.

Examine: Reorienting Pak-US ties

ARTICLE CONTINUES AFTER AD

And the hearing’s sole witness, Gen John Nicholson Jr, commander of the US and international forces in Afghanistan, advocated for working with Pakistan and its military to stabilise Afghanistan and defeat extremists.

He disagreed with a suggestion that cutting off US aid to Pakistan would force it to cooperate. Every time he was asked about stopping US assistance, he emphasised the need for diplomatic engagement with Islamabad.

Senator McCain, a regular visitor to both Afghanistan and Pakistan, underlined the US dilemma on this issue. Acknowledging that thousands of Pakistanis had sacrificed their lives in the fight against terrorists, he said: “But the fact remains that numerous terrorist groups still operate within Pakistan, attack its neighbours and kill US forces.”

The senator, who also visited North Waziristan last year, praised Pakistan for conducting a successful military operation in that area, but said that this was not helping the US forces combating terrorists in Afghanistan.

“Put simply, our mission in Afghanistan is immeasurably more difficult, if not impossible, while our enemies possess a safe haven in Pakistan. These sanctuaries must be eliminated,” he said.

Senator McCain urged the new US administration to work with Congress to “determine what additional actions are necessary, to ensure that the enemies we continue to fight in Afghanistan can find no sanctuary in Pakistan or in any other country”.

Senator Jack Reed, the committee’s ranking Democrat, insisted that the alleged Pakistani support for extremist groups in Afghanistan, “whether it is passive or deliberate, must end if we and Afghanistan are to achieve necessary levels of security”.

He pointed to another dilemma that US forces in the region face, militants fleeing to Afghanistan when Pakistan launches an operation against them in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata).

“What we need to do concerning the safe haven issue in Pakistan?” asked Senator McCain.

“Sir, it’s very difficult to succeed on the battlefield when your enemy enjoys external support and safe haven. I think we need to continue to work closely with Pakistan,” the general replied.

“The Pakistanis did some good work in North Waziristan, right?” asked the senator. “They did, sir. And we have great respect for the operation they conducted in Waziristan. It was a very large and significant operation and they suffered heavy casualties,” said Gen Nicholson.

“But the problem is the Haqqani network, especially in places like Quetta, right?” asked Senator McCain.

“Sir, that’s correct. We still have enemy sanctuary in areas like Quetta, like you mention, with the Taliban leadership, and other cities within the tribal areas for the Haqqani leadership,” Gen Nicholson said.

“You have had some dealings with the new chief of staff at the army. I don’t know if you’ve had any dealings with the new head of ISI, but does it make sense to focus our persuasive efforts on specific sub elements within Pakistan?” asked Senator Reed.

“Sir, I have a great respect for the Pakistan military and its leaders. I’m developing, I believe, a positive and constructive relationship with Gen Bajwa and his team. And again, we have great respect for the operations they’ve conducted in Fata,” Gen Nicholson replied.

“The Pakistan people have also suffered from the scourge of terrorism. And I quite sincerely want to eliminate those terrorists that are attacking their society,” he said.

Increasing pressure
The general then explained how the United States forces could help Pakistan fight the terrorists, noting that recently US counterterrorism forces killed Omar Khalifa, the head of the Tariq Gidar Group who perpetrated the “horrendous attack” on the Peshawar Army School, which killed over 130 children. Also, in a raid last year in eastern Afghanistan, US forces rescued Haider Gilani, the son of a former Pakistani prime minister.

Emphasising the need to improve cooperation between the US and Pakistani forces, Gen Nicholson suggested increasing the pressure applied on the Haqqanis and the Taliban on the Pakistan side of the border.

Senator Angus King, an independent lawmaker who caucuses with the Democrats, asked the general if “cutting off funding” would persuade Pakistan to eliminate the alleged safe havens in Fata.

The general, however, suggested conducting “a holistic review” of America’s Pakistan policy and to “sit down with” Pakistani leaders to do so.

“We have many areas where we could be working together for our mutual benefit. And I think this is a key to the future,” he said.

“I’m personally committed to this and working with my Pakistani counterparts… in my initial conversations with my chain of command, this is a high priority for all of us.”

Gen Nicholson expressed hope that the new administration in Washington would conduct this “holistic review”.

When Republican Senator David Perdue also suggested using US aid to Pakistan as leverage, Gen Nicholson underlined the need for “working closely with the Pakistanis to eliminate or reduce sanctuary for the Taliban, Haqqani and other groups inside Pakistan”.

“Are we getting the kind of cooperation that we need from the Pakistanis?” asked Senator Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat.

“We’d like to see greater cooperation,” the general replied.

“Where, specifically has it been deficient?” asked the senator.

“Specifically sir, with respect to the Haqqani network and the Taliban sanctuaries and presence inside Pakistan,” the general said.

Asked to identify the areas of concern, Gen Nicholson named Fata, areas around Quetta and Waziristan, where, he claimed, the Haqqani leadership resided. Those areas, he said, had bedevilled US forces for years.

“Are we doing enough to bring pressure to bear on the Pakistani government to be more aggressive and active?” Senator Blumenthal asked.

“I think we need to do a holistic review of our relationship with Pakistan. There are many areas of common interest, where we could work together.

And we want to achieve progress in these areas but you’re absolutely right, it’s been frustrating,” the general said.

“We need to keep military pressure on the Taliban and… through diplomatic engagement with the Pakistanis to increase pressure on that side of the border. So this would be a whole of government approach but the objective of this would be an eventual reconciliation. This will take some years I believe,” he added.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1314146/us-suggests-working-with-pakistan-to-beat-terrorists
-----------
So! It was mostly about Afghanistan! Uncle Sam realising now the presence of Russia and China in the matter take them out from Afghanistan picture someday soon And Kkhotti ( donkey ) come back on point zero with Pakistan.
Other mean bye bye India from Afghanistan as Pakistan doesn't want the black elephant in neighbor to sit down on issues of Afghanistan.
We should not take statements from Trump adminstration seriously he is giving out mixed signals because of Bannon we should just make sure we have a workable relationship with US but no bending over backwards for this regime
 
. . .
We should not take statements from Trump adminstration seriously he is giving out mixed signals because of Bannon we should just make sure we have a workable relationship with US but no bending over backwards for this regime
Believe me! We ( Army ) have all balls in our court and delivering it other side very carefully, As I mentioned above Uncle Sam be it Obama or any Tom dick Trump whatever need to play which suits us. Obama administration stays in power for eight years and their intentions were keep away Pakistan on Afghanistan issues they give free hand to India just for ego thingy Trump administration more logical on facts as They considering to not make F16 in Indian soil. Let's see but as I told we are the main player @Khanate I hope previous Taliban regime learn a lot of their failure If they stop act like butchers and concentrate on betterment of Afghanistan with humble acts they are most welcome than Northern alliance stupids.
 
. .
Our policy towards Afghanistan is that of stabilization and bringing all power factions to negotiating tables while collation policy has been of divide and conquer..these are two opposing courses and cannot co-exist.
 
.
Believe me! We ( Army ) have all balls in our court and delivering it other side very carefully, As I mentioned above Uncle Sam be it Obama or any Tom dick Trump whatever need to play which suits us. Obama administration stays in power for eight years and their intentions were keep away Pakistan on Afghanistan issues they give free hand to India just for ego thingy Trump administration more logical on facts as They considering to not make F16 in Indian soil. Let's see but as I told we are the main player @Khanate I hope previous Taliban regime learn a lot of their failure If they stop act like butchers and concentrate on betterment of Afghanistan with humble acts they are most welcome than Northern alliance stupids.
Trump is not honouring international deals he is a dangerous clown if we hope that during Bannon,s tenure as president(he is real president) we will be able to improve our relation with US we are just fooling ourself we should have a hands-off approach in this tenure and we should focus on diversifying our economy Trump,s election proved one thing that US is not a dependable ally
 
. .
I would like to point out a crucial point on this topic.

Pakistan I believe has hundreds of posts on the durrand line.

How many are on the other side, manned by NATO and ANA? A dozen or 2?

Whenever we conduct an operation even the few posts manned by NATO and ANA are evacuated. Is that done deliberatly?

Why is TTP based in Kunar?

Why do Taliban control swathes of Afghani territory? Can any insurgency survive for long without local support?

Why has NATO trained and equipped ANA failed so miserably and Taliban conquered entire districts?

Why does Afghanistan not let Pakistan fence the border, if taliban have safeheavens in Pak's territory?
 
. .

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom