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Featured US report explores options for Pakistan-India talks ( Revival of Musharraf Plan)

Both Pakistan and India can save their collective breath, India has no desire to talk to Pakistan.
 
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That Musharraf plan, what India did was undo all trust in Pakistan, Kashmir and the world in India's intentions..

The only plan left, is the where all Indian occupation forces leave all of Indian Illegally Occupied Kashmir .. That is it, nothing else is left now.

You only have to look at America's Palestine peace plan to know, that American morality, sense of right and wrong and fair play (what little there was ) has lost it's way ..
 
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Sure USA and west and even pakistani leadership is dying for having india as thier bigger brother and to fight jointly with China.
that's why temples been created in islamabad to promote harmony, but that can emerge a very dangerous effect within PA ranks and files and that's the fear which PAK leadership is afraid off, they are quite as india has almost cleaned the kashmiris under secret deal with trump, who has the major share in creating kashmir as its base and trun it like rich ppls touring paradise, trump and his son and thier friends like BUKHARI boy, imran khan, some other high officials and thier sons Saudi crown prince, modi ji, ambani all are part of that deal but now modi ji has demanded the release of kulbhushsn yadev to claim fake victory, and pak govt is working on that
 
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In current situation it is trap for Pakistan as they have realized that they are losing leverage over Pakistan rapidly and even Arabs will not be able to have leverage like before if current situation prevails. Pakistan should avoid these type of options now as it will be only beneficial to US, India and it's allies, remember what they did with Palestine after they make deal with Israel and Palestine.
Are you confident about giving China/CCP such absolute leverage over you?
 
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Both Pakistan and India can save their collective breath, India has no desire to talk to Pakistan.

Yaar we broke India to get away from you folks, sorry I mean fcuks

We understood then that India would be a disaster for itself and the region

Now the entire region understands and needs China to keep India on a leash
 
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Sure USA and west and even pakistani leadership is dying for having india as thier bigger brother and to fight jointly with China.
that's why temples been created in islamabad to promote harmony, but that can emerge a very dangerous effect within PA ranks and files and that's the fear which PAK leadership is afraid off, they are quite as india has almost cleaned the kashmiris under secret deal with trump, who has the major share in creating kashmir as its base and trun it like rich ppls touring paradise, trump and his son and thier friends like BUKHARI boy, imran khan, some other high officials and thier sons Saudi crown prince, modi ji, ambani all are part of that deal but now modi ji has demanded the release of kulbhushsn yadev to claim fake victory, and pak govt is working on that
Building temples for Pakistani Hindus. Stop seeing everything from the eye of religion. Even Nepal is a hindu state but a close ally of Pakistan. Sri Lanka is a Buddhist state and share South Indian culture but they are more closer towards Pakistan.
 
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Building temples for Pakistani Hindus. Stop seeing everything from the eye of religion. Even Nepal is a hindu state but a close ally of Pakistan. Sri Lanka is a Buddhist state and share South Indian culture but they are more closer towards Pakistan.
How many hindu countries and thier govts have build mosques for thier muslims??????!!!!!!!!!
 
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I don't know why people here are criticizing the US report when the actual Musharraf-Manmohan talks were done by the Pakistani military leader GENERAL Musharraf and his counterparts in India were both BJP and Congress Prime Ministers. The US report is nothing new, except it does show how the American leadership sees that India is on the wrong side! The use of the word 'untenable' is a strong word of warning to the Modi regime.

Back in mid-2000s, there was a lot of hope in the region. There were and there will ALWAYS be angry elements on both sides when such grand ideas are being considered. But vast segments of Kashmiris were on board the Musharraf-Manmohan plan and I believe that's the best option.

Short of a devastating war, what are the options for Pakistan and India? Right now, Pakistan has the upper hand because of Modi's follies of provoking the Kashmiris, China and Pakistan at the same time. But Pakistan's hopes largely rest on China's real, strong and consistent support. In past, as we had seen, China's usual positions were the diplomatic statements like 'let's all get along'. But will China walk the talk now? If so, then how far?? If China doesn't and IF Modi's gamble of repeating the Israeli model in IoK wins then it's a huge loss for Pakistan.

So, yes, talks need to resume by going back to the Musharraf-Manmohan dialogues but Manmohan and Vajpayee were gentlemen and visionaries compared to the Fascist regime currently ruling New Delhi. I think we should know within a year or so how this, as the US report says, 'untenable' situation in IoK and the region pans out.

We sure are living in interesting times!!
 
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Spoken like a toady. Everyone knows China is the hegemon in Asia, not India.
Actully not, China is the coolest bussinesmen who have beaten the king america in its own dam hegmoneous economic game and that's where it's illegal colonial kids like india are bottom hurt?
From, sikham, to sri lanka then to nepal the mezuram, Manipur then to kashmir and laddakh, junagargh to Hyderabad all wee illegally been occupied by India and some were remote controlled by Barhamas of India but China has come to get them freedom to them and India is afraid of that?
 
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Spoken like a toady. Everyone knows China is the hegemon in Asia, not India.


Not for South Asia
Not for the 600 million muslims in South Asia
Not for the countries in South Asia

What has China ever done to us?????

The risk to us is a deluded hindutva extremist India, thinking it can push around countries like Nepal

The risk to Indian Muslims and minorities is not China, or Pakistan it's hindutva extremist India

Why are you asking ask to hate or oppose China when the risk is hindutva India?
 
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I don't know why people here are criticizing the US report when the actual Musharraf-Manmohan talks were done by the Pakistani military leader GENERAL Musharraf and his counterparts in India were both BJP and Congress Prime Ministers. The US report is nothing new, except it does show how the American leadership sees that India is on the wrong side! The use of the word 'untenable' is a strong word of warning to the Modi regime.

Back in mid-2000s, there was a lot of hope in the region. There were and there will ALWAYS be angry elements on both sides when such grand ideas are being considered. But vast segments of Kashmiris were on board the Musharraf-Manmohan plan and I believe that's the best option.

Short of a devastating war, what are the options for Pakistan and India? Right now, Pakistan has the upper hand because of Modi's follies of provoking the Kashmiris, China and Pakistan at the same time. But Pakistan's hopes largely rest on China's real, strong and consistent support. In past, as we had seen, China's usual positions were the diplomatic statements like 'let's all get along'. But will China walk the talk now? If so, then how far?? If China doesn't and IF Modi's gamble of repeating the Israeli model in IoK wins then it's a huge loss for Pakistan.

So, yes, talks need to resume by going back to the Musharraf-Manmohan dialogues but Manmohan and Vajpayee were gentlemen and visionaries compared to the Fascist regime currently ruling New Delhi. I think we should know within a year or so how this, as the US report says, 'untenable' situation in IoK and the region pans out.

We sure are living in interesting times!!
Musharf and Vajpai talks were not in anyone's preasure but that was great and real honnest initiative by real honnest and patriot like musharf and for tht he don't need to build, any temples on islamabad?
Or asked any zulfi BUKHARI to talk to the son of trump to make a scret deal. With modi???
 
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Not for South Asia
Not for the 600 million muslims in South Asia
Not for the countries in South Asia

What has China ever done to us?????

The risk to us is a deluded hindutva extremist India, thinking it can push around countries like Nepal

The risk to Indian Muslims and minorities is not China, or Pakistan it's hindutva extremist India

Why are you asking ask to hate or oppose China when the risk is hindutva India?
Time to put a hard top on that creature called hindivta has just arrived, slowly sikham to mezuram then Manipur and then kashmir, and khalistan, and urdustan will get thier independence under the name of united CEPEC states of ASIA.
wink wink?????
 
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What happened to the verdict against Pirouz?
 
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