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WASHINGTON: The US State Department has refused to take a position on New Delhi’s complaint against Pakistan for using F-16s in an air combat with India, saying that it does not offer public comments on bilateral agreements.

“We have seen those reports and we’re following that issue very closely. I can’t confirm anything, but as a matter of policy, we don’t publicly comment on the contents of bilateral agreements... involving US defence technologies,” the department’s deputy spokesman Robert Palladino said.

At a news briefing on Tuesday, Mr Palladino said the US also avoided public discussions on communications with other countries about such issues.

“So we’re taking a look and we’re going to continue to take a look, and I’m going to leave it at that,” he said.

On Wednesday, New York Times journalist Maria Abi-Habib released a set of tweets saying that contrary to India’s insistence, Pakistan may not have violated its F-16 sales agreement with the US even if it used the American-made fighter jets to shoot down Indian aircraft last week.

On Feb 27, Pakistan Air Force announced that it had shot down two Indian aircraft inside Pakistani airspace when they tried to give chase to Pakistani jets.

Indian officials, however, complained that the aircraft used by the PAF to ingress into occupied Kashmir had included an F-16.

New Delhi insisted that Pakistan’s use of F-16 against India meant that Islamabad stood in violation of a sales agreement with the US, which reportedly restricts the fighter jets to be used for anti-terrorism activities alone.

However, Abi-Habib, the NYT’s South Asia correspondent, explained how Pakistan may not have committed a violation of its sales agreement with the US even if it did use F-16s to shoot down Indian jets (which the PAF says never happened). “The US says if Pakistan used an F-16 to shoot down an Indian MiG, it may not have violated sale agreement,” she tweeted.

“They say if India entered Pakistani airspace for a second day, and Pakistan used the jet defensively, the contract wasn’t violated. But, if Pakistan used an F-16 to attack India first, then deal was violated.”

Citing weapons experts and officials, Abi-Habib also put a question mark on the Indian Air Force’s claim that the AIM-120 missile’s remnant that was displayed by New Delhi was ‘proof’ of Pakistan’s use of an F-16 in the counter-strike to the Balakot incident. She also said US officials still do not have sufficient reason to believe that an F-16 was shot down by India, as claimed by the IAF.

Abi-Habib noted that despite its desire to strengthen its ties with India, the US was not endorsing the Indian version of last week’s events. She described the US reluctance as “very interesting”.

At the State Department briefing, Mr Palladino said the US was still engaged in “high level” but “quiet” diplomacy to reduce tensions between South Asia’s two nuclear-armed neighbours.

“We continue to urge both sides to continue to take steps to de-escalate the situation, and that includes through direct communication. And we believe strongly that further military activity will exacerbate the situation,” he said.

He noted that last week, Secretary of State Michael Pompeo played a direct and “essential role in de-escalating the tensions” when he spoke with leaders in both countries, including Indian Minister of External Affairs Sushma Swaraj, National Security Advisor Ajit Doval and Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi.

Published in Dawn, March 7th, 2019

https://www.dawn.com/news/1468087


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You little piece of shite, rat from east. You are deliberately running your propaganda.

It's a month old news!!

Published in Dawn, March 7th, 2019


The news of all PAF F16s counted for is days old. Now run back to your hole and ask IAF to let Russians count your SU30s.
 
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You little piece of shite, rat from east. You are deliberately running your propaganda.

It's a month old news!!

Published in Dawn, March 7th, 2019


The news of all PAF F16s counted for is days old. Now run back to your hole and ask IAF to let Russians count your SU30s.

Did I hit a raw nerve there ?? Why so angry old man ?

The fact remains that one F16 of PAF was shot down. Americans took the inventory of their F16 and said are all accounted for. Now what you and your PAF is hiding is that the shot F16 was bought from Jordan.

Pakistan receives first five F-16s from Jordan

http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article4852.html

Now if you know maths (doubt it) go and count F16s that you bought from Jordan. One of them is missing. Also missing is your pilot was flying the plane. May his soul rest in peace.


Have India also complained to Russia, France, England, and Israel for using their jets and equipment against Pakistan?

Fucking Retards.

There was no agreement as such. But PAF has such clause with US F16 deal.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41394633?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Now who is retard ? ! man on the mirror !

Gen Bajwa is clever unlike you. He used Jordanian F16 for balakot counter attack. That also explains why all US F16s were accounted for.
 
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Did I hit a raw nerve there ?? Why so angry old man ?

The fact remains that one F16 of PAF was shot down. Americans took the inventory of their F16 and said are all accounted for. Now what you and your PAF is hiding is that the shot F16 was bought from Jordan.

Pakistan receives first five F-16s from Jordan

http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article4852.html

Now if you know maths (doubt it) go and count F16s that you bought from Jordan. One of them is missing. Also missing is your pilot was flying the plane. May his soul rest in peace.




There was no agreement as such. But PAF has such clause with US F16 deal.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41394633?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Gen Bajwa is clever. PAF used Jordanian F16 for balakot counter attack. That also explains why all US f16s were accounted for.
where's the F16 little chowkidaar? Modi jee's vedic tech can't find it? Oh yeah I remember, you're lying.

Distortion of facts is how your gawaar janta thinks it can teach a lesson to the rogue "TSOP". How to turn failure into victory, one must learn from you guys.
 
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Feeling a little desperate?

The news article is from 7th March @IndoCarib.

7th March is a month ago, After the Balakot strike. My point was they very well knew that their F16 were not used

where's the F16 little chowkidaar? Modi jee's vedic tech can't find it? Oh yeah I remember, you're lying.

Distortion of facts is how your gawaar janta thinks it can teach a lesson to the rogue "TSOP". How to turn failure into victory, one must learn from you guys.

Exactly what PAF is hiding. Truth may never come out. Only Jordanians can find out
 
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7th March is a month ago, After the Balakot strike. My point was they very well knew that their F16 were not used



Exactly what PAF is hiding. Truth may never come out. Only Jordanians can find out
US counts all F16s, what kind of logic is that, Jordanian F16 doesn't make it a Mirage 2000 which the Yanks won't count. Your logic sucks but the audacity to claim a kill with no use of weapons is appalling.
 
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US counts all F16s, what kind of logic is that, Jordanian F16 doesn't make it a Mirage 2000 which the Yanks won't count. Your logic sucks but the audacity to claim a kill with no use of weapons is appalling.

The 'foreign Policy' clearly said the the none of US F16s were missing. The Jordanian F16s were not taken into account
 
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Did I hit a raw nerve there ?? Why so angry old man ?

The fact remains that one F16 of PAF was shot down. Americans took the inventory of their F16 and said are all accounted for. Now what you and your PAF is hiding is that the shot F16 was bought from Jordan.

Pakistan receives first five F-16s from Jordan

http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article4852.html

Now if you know maths (doubt it) go and count F16s that you bought from Jordan. One of them is missing. Also missing is your pilot was flying the plane. May his soul rest in peace.




There was no agreement as such. But PAF has such clause with US F16 deal.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41394633?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Now who is retard ? ! man on the mirror !

Gen Bajwa is clever unlike you. He used Jordanian F16 for balakot counter attack. That also explains why all US F16s were accounted for.

When did Jordan started manufacturing and selling F16s on their own? When did they get the right sell independently without US permission? If same rules apply Turkey and UAE can now send their F16s to Pakistan without US approval!

For example UAE wanted Pakistani F16 pilots for their F16s - they had to get permission from US which they refused initially.

All F16s are US equipment and subject to same rules and TPT.

PS. This is month old news in which US official simply refused to comment ie it supports neither Pakistan or Indian position. It is baffling how you are able to use this to support the Indian claim.
 
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When did Jordan started manufacturing and selling F16s on their own? When did they get the right sell independently wothout US permission? If same rules apply can Turkey and UAE send their F16s to Pakistan without US approval.

For example UAE wanted Pakistani F16 pilots for their F16s - they had to get permission from US which they refused initially
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All F16s are US equipment and subject to same rules and TPT.

PS. This is month old news in which US official simply refused to comment. It is baffling how you are able to use this to support the Indian claim.

Jordan does not manufacture F16s. They sold some to Pakistan in 2014
 
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Who the heck told you they weren't taken into account? What kind of BS is this? Check the article again, Lara added the Jordanian factor too.
The 'foreign Policy' clearly said the the none of US F16s were missing. The Jordanian F16s were not taken into account
 
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There are times when facepalm is just not enough
 
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A lot has been changed since 7th March, 2019 even its been disclosed that Pakistan is free to use F-16 the way we want to and all the jets are accounted for including Jordanian transfer as well. In fact, same news was shared & topic already exists.

Thread closed.
 
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