US prepares to refuel Israeli planes striking Iran

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@randaam janmam

Here we go
The Role of Pakistan Air Force Volunteer Pilots in Arab Israel Wars in Air Combat Against Israel

If you don't accept this then you are a troll!

I can even show you pictures of awards given by arabs to PAF for their role against IAF

 

[randaam janmam]

There are lots of sources. You just have a hard time agreeing.
Perhaps we should be asking the same thing from you.
Since when did Iraq have WMDs? So Israel could engage in a conflict?

If there are lots of sources, surely you can put a few here? Instead of describing the 1973 war when asked for sources about the topic in question?

Why should you be asking me about Iraq having WMDs? When did I say anything like that?

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Np, its one of those identifying factors that lets people know what kind of person they are dealing with.

Change in regime only happens in weak countries and kingdoms/ govts that are on the verge of collapse like Libya. Step out of your romantic picnic with Israel for once and think clearly, you have been posting thoughts out of your *** all day today.




No one compared US's financial strength with Muslim world...I'm sure I don't have to highlight the recent economic troubles faced by US due to its wars....Sometimes I think to myself if it is really 10 year olds we deal with on PDF.

Yes, some of you are 10 year olds. If you go back and read, you will know why I talked baout the US's economy. Because someone said it doesnt have the financial capacity to fight a war against some muslim countries. I was making the point that it has lots of money to do that if it wants to, a lot more than the said muslim countries have.

 

[Strigon]

If there are lots of sources, surely you can put a few here? Instead of describing the 1973 war when asked for sources about the topic in question?

Why should you be asking me about Iraq having WMDs? When did I say anything like that?

Sources have been posted, your motives here are not to gain knowledge but trolling.

Judging from the quality of your posts, lol, you honestly dont have a say in anything

Yes, some of you are 10 year olds. If you go back and read, you will know why I talked baout the US's economy. Because someone said it doesnt have the financial capacity to fight a war against some muslim countries. I was making the point that it has lots of money to do that if it wants to, a lot more than the said muslim countries have.

Who ever said it doesn't have money to fight another war is right. I don't feel like spoon feeding you, tho you can research on this and next time might not seem as stupid.

 

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If there are lots of sources, surely you can put a few here? Instead of describing the 1973 war when asked for sources about the topic in question?

Why should you be asking me about Iraq having WMDs? When did I say anything like that?

I posted one before yours it even has a picture. Don't worry there are more pic you can find yourself.
LOL, since when did we Pakistanis question anything about iAF. You are the one who is messing around. Just like you asked something random, i am also asking you a random question. Why have you all of sudden gone to defend yourself now huh?

 

[randaam janmam]

@randaam janmam

Here we go
The Role of Pakistan Air Force Volunteer Pilots in Arab Israel Wars in Air Combat Against Israel

If you don't accept this then you are a troll!

I can even show you pictures of awards given by arabs to PAF for their role against IAF

Maybe you really don't understand. Can you at least read the title of the link you just posted? Now tell me, is that what I asked for? Was I asking for performance of pakistani voluntary pilots in arab israel wars?

I'll make this simple. Someone said that israel tried to launch attacks against pakistan's secret nuclear facilities like it did against iraq in 82 and syria in 2007. And that PAF met the israeli jets at the border and sent them back. That is what I want substantiated. Not abotu how pakistani mercenaried flew arab aircrafts etc etc.

If you still don't understand what is being asked, youa re the troll.

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Sources have been posted, your motives here are not to gain knowledge but trolling.

Judging from the quality of your posts, lol, you honestly dont have a say in anything



Who ever said it doesn't have money to fight another war is right. I don't feel like spoon feeding you, tho you can research on this and next time might not seem as stupid.

Right, with a defence budget of 800 billion dollars, and an economy of 14 trillion dollars, USA doesnt have the money to fight a war. Anyone can see who is stupid.

 

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Maybe you really don't understand. Can you at least read the title of the link you just posted? Now tell me, is that what I asked for? Was I asking for performance of pakistani voluntary pilots in arab israel wars?

I'll make this simple. Someone said that israel tried to launch attacks against pakistan's secret nuclear facilities like it did against iraq in 82 and syria in 2007. And that PAF met the israeli jets at the border and sent them back. That is what I want substantiated. Not abotu how pakistani mercenaried flew arab aircrafts etc etc.

If you still don't understand what is being asked, youa re the troll.

Don't worry i'll explain that as well.
Is there a source for IAF attack on Iraq nuke facilities?

 

[randaam janmam]

I posted one before yours it even has a picture. Don't worry there are more pic you can find yourself.
LOL, since when did we Pakistanis question anything about iAF. You are the one who is messing around. Just like you asked something random, i am also asking you a random question. Why have you all of sudden gone to defend yourself now huh?

I didn't say anything about paksitanis questioning IAF. I didn't ask anything random. I asked a two word question, which was "source please". You didnt post a single source that backs up your claim of israeli planes being met at the border by the heroic PAF.

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Don't worry i'll explain that as well.
Is there a source for IAF attack on Iraq nuke facilities?

Yes...google operation opera, and read. And educate yourself.

Here is the wikipedia article, and even a video of the attacks. Thats how you provide sources to backup claims. Hope this helps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikpjpQ2iznc


There are also hundreds of books and scholarly articles, and thousands of newspaper reports about it if you want. Now that you know how to backup a claim when someone asks, do that in future, instead of giving links about the 1973 war and calling the other person a troll, when all he did was ask for a source which you couldn't provide.

You said "don't worry, i will explain that as well." I'm still waiting for you to do it. Still waiting for you to provide sources or newspaper reports of israeli warplanes being bravely sent back at the border by the PAF.

Other than being a figment of pakistani imagination, do you have any real sources or newspaper reports or scholarly articles to back it up?

 

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I didn't say anything about paksitanis questioning IAF. I didn't ask anything random. I asked a two word question, which was "source please". You didnt post a single source that backs up your claim of israeli planes being met at the border by PAF.

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Yes...google operation opera, and read. And educate yourself.

Here is the wikipedia article, and even a video of the attacks. Thats how you provide sources to backup claims. Hope this helps.

Operation Opera - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Operation Opera - YouTube


There are also hundreds of books and scholarly articles, and thousands of newspaper reports about it if you want. Now that you know how to backup a claim when someone asks, do that in future, instead of giving links about the 1973 war and calling the other person a troll, when all he did was ask for a source which you couldn't provide.

You said "don't worry, i will explain that as well." Still waiting for you to do it. Still waiting for you to provide sources or newspaper reports of israeli warplanes being bravely sent back at the border by the PAF.

Great... now if i mention my stuff from Wiki, will it still be wrong?
Nice try

 

[Strigon]

haha yaar Cb4, you are arguing with a troll, which is why I stopped replying to him. I only see a Pink name in his future.

 

[Edevelop]

haha yaar Cb4, you are arguing with a troll, which is why I stopped replying to him. I only see a Pink name in his future.

baas yaar mazay lay rah han hooo
aab wakai istaa istaa tak rahan hon...

 

[randaam janmam]

Great... now if i mention my stuff from Wiki, will it still be wrong?
Nice try

Yea, you came back with the response I expected. Because I provided the wikipedia link, you don't believe it. Of course, if you google "operation opera" you can get thousands of links for it. It is a fact that this happened, and even the United nations condemned it. Not because they read it on wikipedia, but because it actually happened. I will provide a few non wiki links as well. If you want to pretend that operation opera never happened, the iraqi nuclear reactor was never destroyed, you can continue to do so. You cant deny history, especially something that happened just 2-3 decades ago.

The security council of the united nations issued resolution 487 in response to this attack:
http://www.undemocracy.com/S-RES-486(1981).pdf

That wikipedia article at its end has 85 or so other primary sources if you want. I really can;t go into the trouble of providing links for something that happened in living memory, something that Iraq demanded compensation for, something that world leaders everywhere condemned. If you dont want to believe it happened, thats your choice.

Here is IRAQ'S FOREIGN MINISTER condeminiing the attack. Maybe he was also misled by wikipedia:

The Israeli aggression against the peaceful nuclear installations in Iraq : statement made by Dr. Sa'adoun Hammadi, Minister for Foreign Affairs of Iraq, before the Security Council, 12 June 1981 : Hammadi, Sa`dun. : Free Download & Streaming : Inter

Nice try.

http://www.americanheritage.com/pla...menachem-begin-osirak-preemptive-strike.shtml
Osiraq - Iraq Special Weapons Facilities
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Factfile: How Osirak was bombed
"Operation Opera: an Ambiguous Success" by Joshua Kirschenbaum

Want more links? Books? Articles? Newspaper reports? Just google it, man.

So now you know how to provide links. I'm still waiting for you to provide a single legitimate source for your claim of PAF greeting israeli air force on the border.

 

[randaam janmam]

haha yaar Cb4, you are arguing with a troll, which is why I stopped replying to him. I only see a Pink name in his future.

No, you stopped replying because you didn't have a leg to stand on. He asked for links about iraq's nuke facilities being attacked, i gave him a few, and as any student of military history knows, you can find hundreds of others.

I asked a link for your claim that PAF greeted israeli air force on the borders to prevent a pre-emptove strike on pakistan's nuke facilities, and you provided links about pakistani mercenaries flying in the 73 war.

Sorry dude, I'm not the troll here.

 

[Edevelop]

Yea, you came back with the response I expected. Because I provided the wikipedia link, you don't believe it. Of course, if you google "operation opera" you can get thousands of links for it. It is a fact that this happened, and even the United nations condemned it. Not because they read it on wikipedia, but because it actually happened. I will provide a few non wiki links as well. If you want to pretend that operation opera never happened, the iraqi nuclear reactor was never destroyed, you can continue to do so. You cant deny history, especially something that happened just 2-3 decades ago.

The security council of the united nations issued resolution 487 in response to this attack:
http://www.undemocracy.com/S-RES-486(1981).pdf

That wikipedia article at its end has 85 or so other primary sources if you want. I really can;t go into the trouble of providing links for something that happened in living memory, something that Iraq demanded compensation for, something that world leaders everywhere condemned. If you dont want to believe it happened, thats your choice.

Here is IRAQ'S FOREIGN MINISTER condeminiing the attack. Maybe he was also misled by wikipedia:

The Israeli aggression against the peaceful nuclear installations in Iraq : statement made by Dr. Sa'adoun Hammadi, Minister for Foreign Affairs of Iraq, before the Security Council, 12 June 1981 : Hammadi, Sa`dun. : Free Download & Streaming : Inter

Nice try.

http://www.americanheritage.com/pla...menachem-begin-osirak-preemptive-strike.shtml
Osiraq - Iraq Special Weapons Facilities
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Factfile: How Osirak was bombed
"Operation Opera: an Ambiguous Success" by Joshua Kirschenbaum

Want more links? Books? Articles? Newspaper reports? Just google it, man.

So now you know how to provide links. I'm still waiting for you to provide a single legitimate source for your claim of PAF greeting israeli air force on the border.

Look man, you are new to this forum. Just take a chill pill...
First learn to be mature. If you are concerned about something then do research on your own! if you come across something you don't understand than ask. Just don't expect to come here to ask something very big and btw you are trolling. Pakistan has nothing to do with this thread. I can see you are confused on a lot of thing Just control yourself....

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[randaam janmam]

I really don't even understand the pakistani mindset. Why am I being asked for sources abuot Israel's attack on iraqi nuke facilities, when both israel, iraq and the rest of the world acknowledge it? Why is it that after being shown sources and even video clips, pakistanis don't want to believe?

Ok, operation orchid never happened. Israel never bombed iraq's nuke reactor. The iraqis and americans and the UN and everyone else who thought it happened were just idiots. All the newspaper reports you can get if you google for it are links put up by trolls. The UN resolution condemning the attack was passed because the UN was misled by internet trolls.

Oh man, the bliss of living like an ostrich.

 

[pakistanitarzan]

Without US help, Israel will suffer majorly or else they would have attacked Iran a long time ago. Play fair Israel! you know you can't significantly damage Tehran without Tel Aviv being impacted, without USA's help. Israel should man up, stop dragging USA in it's false flag operations and dirty tactics.

In all out fair war between Israel and Iran (Without using nuclear weapons), Israel will learn a lesson and will never dare to mess with any country again.

USA should not and will not help Israel because only a few people in US government are warmongers (Less than 1%). The common people in USA do not their tax dollars to go in unnecessary wars or making new enemies