US prepares to refuel Israeli planes striking Iran

[randaam janmam]

Tell me this. Are you an Indian behind your flag or seriously an asian Korean?

No I'm not korean, as I said plainly. If you are really bothered about my flag, I can change it for you. There are also people with flags of unheard countries posting here.

If the mods seriously want to know my current location, they can find out from my IP. It is neither the koreas nor india.

In your previous post you complained about thread derailment, and now you are using the thread to ask my personal details? If you want to know all that, send me a message on my user page, not on this thread.

 

[Strigon]

Tell me this. Are you an Indian behind your flag or seriously an asian Korean?

He is the typical paranoid Indian, who is either too afraid to show his location or too ashamed to show his colors. I don't know what exactly the deal is but he is also obsessed with sources and claims. What he doesn't agree with is the reality of this world. He also thinks he 'owned' everyone so far. He cant recall that he joined PDF a few hours ago or 3 days ago. Thats what I have gathered so far lol.

 

[randaam janmam]

He is the typical paranoid Indian, who is either too afraid to show his location or too ashamed to show his colors. I don't know what exactly the deal is but he is also obsessed with sources and claims. What he doesn't agree with is the reality of this world. He also thinks he 'owned' everyone so far. He cant recall that he joined PDF a few hours ago or 3 days ago. Thats what I have gathered so far lol.

I said LESS THAN THREE DAYS AGO, which you claimed was a lie, which I pointed out is true, and said you got owned for that. Also for the fact that the time zone makes a difference of a day. Now please come back to the discussion, instead of trying to spice up your sorry life with a stupid internet battle.

If asking for a source is being obsessed with sources, well you have to accept the reality of the internet. With no sources to backup your claims, you won't be believed.

You are the one who is obsessed with when I joined PDF and irrelevant things like that. As I said before, get a life.

 

[randaam janmam]

I am trying my best here to discuss the topic at hand, which I believe is very important for the region today. I have responded on topic to anyone who has been on topic.

 

[Strigon]

I said LESS THAN THREE DAYS AGO, which you claimed was a lie, which I pointed out is true, and said you got owned for that. Also for the fact that the time zone makes a difference of a day. Now please come back to the discussion, instead of trying to spice up your sorry life with a stupid internet battle.

If asking for a source is being obsessed with sources, well you have to accept the reality of the internet. With no sources to backup your claims, you won't be believed.

You are the one who is obsessed with when I joined PDF and irrelevant things like that. As I said before, get a life.

I forgot, he has a wonderful life and doing his best to try to get us a life too. He also thinks there is no difference between a few hours, 1 day or 3 days.

lol anyways back to topic, another reality of not only internet but also world events i.e. that some things cannot be proved because both sides are on a disagreement....so not liking a theory/ opinion/ statement/ doesn't mean its wrong and you are absolutely right.

 

[randaam janmam]

I forgot, he has a wonderful life and doing his best to try to get us a life too. He also thinks there is no difference between a few hours, 1 day or 3 days.

lol anyways back to topic, another reality of not only internet but also world events i.e. that some things cannot be proved because both sides are on a disagreement....so not liking a theory/ opinion/ statement/ doesn't mean its wrong and you are absolutely right.

Last time: It is not because I didn't like you theory. It is because you didn't provide any sources to backup the theory.

Again: It is not that I don't trust your sources. It is that the sources you put up don't mention anything like that happening. Jellodragon, a pakistani member has clarified on what actually happened, and you may have read that if you paid more attention to the discussion and less to my posting history or flags.

And by the way thats not the topic of this thread either, although you said "back to the topic". You have become so entangled in trying to argue that you have lost track of what the thread is about. So just because you say "back to the topic" doesnt mean you are actually posting on topic.

To remind you, this thread is about Israel mulling an attack on Iran's nuclear plant.

 

[Strigon]

Last time: It is not because I didn't like you theory. It is because you didn't provide any sources to backup the claim.

Again: It is not that I don't trust your sources. It is that the sources you put up don't mention anything like that happening. Jellodragon, a pakistani member has clarified on what actually happened, and you may have read that if you paid more attention to the topic and less to my posting history or flags.

And by the way thats not the topic of this thread either, although you said "back to the topic". You have become so entangled in trying to argue that you have lost track of what the thread is about.

Last time : I don't have to provide you any sources. Be it a fact or not, any Muslim country would be prepared to face a possible operation opera repeat. Common sense cannot get any more simpler than that.

It is related to the topic only if your brain cools down and your ego melts off giving you a clear view of what we are discussing here is infact directly related to what Israel is planning on Iran.

To remind you, this thread is about Israel mulling an attack on Iran's nuclear plant.

To make it easier for you to understand, the thread has evolved into what countries have learnt from Israel's past behavior and what the major player (Iran) is going to do about it. If you are to ask any Iranian which side to believe Pakistan or Israel regarding PAF/ IAF encounter, I think you'll have you answer. You can discuss your personal vendetta against PAF else where if you want people to stick to Iran and Israel.

 

[randaam janmam]

Last time : I don't have to provide you any sources. Be it a fact or not, any Muslim country would be prepared to face a possible operation opera repeat. Common sense cannot get any more simpler than that.

It is related to the topic only if your brain cools down and your ego melts off giving you a clear view of what we are discussing here is infact directly related to what Israel is planning on Iran.

Which has nothing to do with the discussion as you know very well. A pakistani said Israel attempted to strike pak's nukes, but were turned back at the border by the PAF. Claims like that will be expected to be backed up.

After saying that it happened, and then lying that you put sources for that, and now turning around and saying that IF it happens pak will be prepared, is what is really called derailing the thread.


In future, dont say something happened and then when asked for sources, turn around and say "if they try it will happen" and call it common sense. What happened can be backed up with sources. What WILL happen, according to you or someone else, is all up for speculation. Make it clear in future that what you are saying is what WILL happen or what you think should happen, as opposed to an event that actually happened.

And no, not all muslim countries were prepared for a repeat of operation opera. Israel repeated it with operation orchard in 2007 against syria. They weren't prepared, and couldn't do anything abuot it either.

Now before you derail the thread again, let me clarify - I do not mean that they will or can do that to pakistan.

 

[randaam janmam]

Last time : I don't have to provide you any sources. Be it a fact or not, any Muslim country would be prepared to face a possible operation opera repeat. Common sense cannot get any more simpler than that.

It is related to the topic only if your brain cools down and your ego melts off giving you a clear view of what we are discussing here is infact directly related to what Israel is planning on Iran.

After you said "back to the topic", what you said had nothing in relation to the topic. Read your post number 155 again.

 

[randaam janmam]

Last time : I don't have to provide you any sources. Be it a fact or not, any Muslim country would be prepared to face a possible operation opera repeat. Common sense cannot get any more simpler than that.

It is related to the topic only if your brain cools down and your ego melts off giving you a clear view of what we are discussing here is infact directly related to what Israel is planning on Iran.




To make it easier for you to understand, the thread has evolved into what countries have learnt from Israel's past behavior and what the major player (Iran) is going to do about it. If you are to ask any Iranian which side to believe Pakistan or Israel regarding PAF/ IAF encounter, I think you'll have you answer. You can discuss your personal vendetta against PAF else where if you want people to stick to Iran and Israel.

Dude, PAF is not a person for me to have a personal vendetta against it. Don't use phrases you don't know the meaning of. As I said, refer your post 155. You said "back to the topic", and then said something about sources and internet, not about iran or syria or israel.

As I said, you got so caught up in arguing (and losing) that you forgot what the topic is. Refer your post 155 again before pretending that you actually came back to the topic when you said that.

 

[Strigon]

After you said "back to the topic", what you said had nothing in relation to the topic. Read your post number 155 again.

Yes, the topic went from Iran/ Israel/ Pakistan to what you think about life, people, time zones, owning spree, location paranoia, false flaging.


Claim that PAF encountered IAF don't need to be backed up. You don't like it, don't agree, good for you. But it also doesn't mean you are right about it.

Coming to the spoon feeding part, Muslim countries that have the capability to defend themselves against Israel is what I mean to say.

In future, if you dont agree with something, dont think you are absolutely right because its very childish attitude.

 

[randaam janmam]

Yes, the topic went from Iran/ Israel/ Pakistan to what you think about life, people, time zones, owning spree, location paranoia, false flaging.


Claim that PAF encountered IAF don't need to be backed up. You don't like it, don't agree, good for you. But it also doesn't mean you are right about it.

Coming to the spoon feeding part, Muslim countries that have the capability to defend themselves against Israel is what I mean to say.

In future, if you dont agree with something, dont think you are absolutely right because its very childish attitude.

Now we have come to the end of this silly argument. Point by point, in response to each sentence:

1) It wasn't what I think about all these. You were the one concerned with all these, and when I joined, and which threads I post in etc. You were the one who brought up all that in this thread. But the topic of the thread has been, and is about middle east affairs.

2) Yes, claims like that need to be backed up to be credible. And by the way you kept on claiming that you did back it up, with sources that had nothing to do with it. Now you are saying it doesnt need backing up. If only you had said so earlier, instead of fraudulently saying that you had put up neutral sources, everyone would have known immediately what to think of that claim.

3) What you mean to say keeps on changing from post to post. First it was that pak succesfully thwarted an attack. Then that it hasnt, but will. Then that any muslim country will thwart a repeat of operation opera. Then I pointed out that they did in fact repeat it with Syria. So then from "any muslim country" it became "countries that have the capability to defend will defend" - which is just a truism. So what you mean to say keeps on diluting, and you end up agreeing with my position after several pages of personal attacks.

3) I didnt say I'm right, for the simple reason that I didnt make a statement or claim to be right or wrong about. Some pakistani made a specific claim, and I asked for sources to back that up. I didn't say anything about me being right, because I didnt say anything to be right or wrong about. I didn't even say that his claim of PAF encountering IAF was wrong - I just asked for sources. Now you have yourself admitted that you can't provide sources for that, after several pages of saying that you provided sources, but that I kept dismissing them as 'unsubstantial' - which of course was a lie.

 

[Peregrine]

OMG! you guys still at it?
On topic, if izzzraeel attacks Iran, then i hope that izzzraeel gets wiped off the map. The world has had enough if zionists & their insecurities.

 

[Strigon]

Now we have come to the end of this silly argument. Point by point, in response to each sentence:

1) It wasn't what I think about all these. You were the one concerned with all these, and when I joined, and which threads I post in etc. You were the one who brought up all that in this thread. But the topic of the thread has been, and is about middle east affairs.

2) Yes, claims like that need to be backed up to be credible. And by the way you kept on claiming that you did back it up, with sources that had nothing to do with it. Now you are saying it doesnt need backing up. If only you had said so earlier, instead of fraudulently saying that you had put up neutral sources, everyone would have known immediately what to think of that claim.

3) What you mean to say keeps on changing from post to post. First it was that pak succesfully thwarted an attack. Then that it hasnt, but will. Then that any muslim country will thwart a repeat of operation opera. Then I pointed out that they did in fact repeat it with Syria. So then from "any muslim country" it became "countries that have the capability to defend will defend" - which is just a truism. So what you mean to say keeps on diluting, and you end up agreeing with my position after several pages of personal attacks.

3) I didnt say I'm right, for the simple reason that I didnt make a statement or claim to be right or wrong about. Some pakistani made a specific claim, and I asked for sources to back that up. I didn't say anything about me being right, because I didnt say anything to be right or wrong about.

In the end, does it matter if a source did say that PAF did infact stop IAF's attack? Cuz your most likely response would be a 'biased source'. So it all boils down to what I i believe in, you wont and vice versa. Why even bother with sources then? Its not like sources are always neutral. You just have an unhealthy obsession with the claim that you don't like then tell people who oppose your views they don't have a life.

 

[randaam janmam]

OMG! you guys still at it?
On topic, if izzzraeel attacks Iran, then i hope that izzzraeel gets wiped off the map. The world has had enough if zionists & their insecurities.

Nope - not anymore, I'm done.

On topic, I wish the Iranian clerical regime gets wiped off. I don't wish for any people to be wiped off like you do, only oppressive regimes. I wish the Iranian people can live in a non theocratic country. They deserve it, being the inheritors of several millenia of glorious civilisations. (Islamic or otherwise).

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In the end, does it matter if a source did say that PAF did infact stop IAF's attack? Cuz your most likely response would be a 'biased source'. So it all boils down to what I i believe in, you wont and vice versa. Why even bother with sources then? Its not like sources are always neutral. You just have an unhealthy obsession with the claim that you don't like then tell people who oppose your views they don't have a life.

Another common tactic - when not able to provide a source, say that the other person wont accept a source even if you did provide. Believe me, if you give a trustworthy source that actually says that, I will believe it. I am not israeli or pakistani, and I have no emotional need to believe fairytales about either country's air force.

But when you cant come up with a source, dont give this crap of "oh it doesnt matter because even if i give a source you wont believe".

I went to the moon yesterday and shared coffee with michael jackson. It was reported widely in all newspapers and media outlets, but I wont give you any links, because even if I give you links, you will say those are biased.

See what I did there?