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US & Pakistan Dispute and Tensions over Haqqani group

I completely agree that this OUGHT to be the defining Existential moment for Pakistan -- and I want the Pakistan Army and Air Force, along with the bureaucracy and any section of political opinion, to prepare and seize the moment, the opportunity the US may afford it

And like you - I harbor doubt as to whether it will have the foresight to do this.

Because unlike you, I think the US has burned itself with the kinds of statements it has allowed the DoD and elements of the intelligence services to create --- I don't think we should make the mistake of thinking Pakistan are friendless and we should be aware that there is a regional, for the lack of a better word, rebellion, against the US - If I were an American, I would be concerned.

And I don't think the Hilal can ever be given up, it resides in the heart, it is the heart.

When push comes to shove, Pakistan will be on its own, for sure. There will be no wider regional conflict. Those thoughts are mere illusions, born of decades of self-deception.

If there is anybody who needs to be concerned, it is Pakistani civil society.
 
America is pissed that they are playing a game of chess against Bobby Fischer (ISI), and losing. ISI has created this game. America needs to stop playing into this crap, and get their economy together. Resorting to these cheap cold war tactics is going to get us no where. It never worked before, because obviously the US left Afghanistan in the middle, and it's not going to get them anywhere now. We in the USA need to revise our foreign policy and stop trying to play a game of command and conquer.
 
America is pissed that they are playing a game of chess against Bobby Fischer (ISI), and losing. ISI has created this game. America needs to stop playing into this crap, and get their economy together. Resorting to these cheap cold war tactics is going to get us no where. It never worked before, because obviously the US left Afghanistan in the middle, and it's not going to get them anywhere now. We in the USA need to revise our foreign policy and stop trying to play a game of command and conquer.

Oh please, grow up.

National interests are never served by being "pissed off" or by evaluation of strategic tactics as "cheap" or "honorable". In practice, ISI is no more than a bunch of glorified goons who believe in their own legend, nothing more. They will soon come to heel, one way or another.
 
Oh please, grow up.

National interests are never served by being "pissed off" or by evaluation of strategic tactics as "cheap" or "honorable". In practice, ISI is no more than a bunch of glorified goons who believe in their own legend, nothing more. They will soon come to heel, one way or another.

WOW. So America sends TTP to destabilize Pakistan, While Pakistan apparently destabilizes American forces with the Haqqani Network in Pakistan. Pakistan, we can understand is doing this because they feel their sovereignty as a country is being disregarded, but why is America taking these steps? Are you looking at the bigger picture or do you think that American policies around the world are SUPREME?
 
When push comes to shove, Pakistan will be on its own, for sure. There will be no wider regional conflict. Those thoughts are mere illusions, born of decades of self-deception.

If there is anybody who needs to be concerned, it is Pakistani civil society.


Again, your concerns are valid because we both, we all, know, that may well be the eventuality - I don't think we need to be concerned about "conflicts" - but I don't believe GHQ is acting alone and I don't buy the "Get Haqqani" line, I know first hand what passes for Afghan "intelligence" and I also know the credibility of that "intelligence" among US allies.

Should Pakistani civil society be concerned? Perhaps, I may be just too dazzled by the opportunity, and maybe I am having a hard time, seeing the down side. We can be pretty sure Pakistan's allies do not want a confrontation with the US, at least not overtly.
 
from: Rift widens with new US allegations, blunt threat | Newspaper | DAWN.COM

WASHINGTON: Gloves are off as US Secretary of Defence Leon Panetta threatened to take “operational steps” against Pakistan while the American military chief Admiral Mike Mullen accused the ISI of having used its “veritable arm” for attacking the US Embassy in Kabul.

Weeks of incessant pressure on Pakistan to undo the Haqqani network, which also brought the ISI chief to Washington on Tuesday, led to the final showdown on Thursday at a Senate hearing where Admiral Mullen also blamed Islamabad for jeopardising a strategic partnership with the United States.

“I don’t think it would be helpful to describe what those options would look like and talk about what operational steps we may or may not take,” Secretary Panetta told the Senate Committee on Armed Services when asked what actions could the US take against Pakistan if it failed to curb the Haqqani network.“Are Pakistani leaders aware of what options are open to us so that they’re not caught by any surprise if in fact we take steps against that network?” asked the committee’s chairman Senator Carl Levin.

“I don’t think they would be surprised by the actions that we might or might not take,” said Mr Panetta while noting that US leaders had recently had a series of meetings with Pakistani leaders on the issue.

Admiral Mullen, who in previous congressional hearings had defended Pakistan, joined Mr Panetta, indicating that all US leaders were united in backing a possible punitive action against the country should it fail to act against the Haqqani network.

“The Haqqani network, for one, acts as a veritable arm of Pakistan’s internal services intelligence agency. With ISI support, the Haqqani operatives planned and conducted that truck bomb attack, as well as the assault on our embassy,” he told the committee.

“We also have credible intelligence that they were behind the June 28th attack on the Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul and a host of other smaller, but effective operations.”

The scene for the showdown was set by Senator Levin who, in his opening remarks, described cross-border attacks from Fata as “the foremost threat” to the US and coalition forces in Afghanistan.

The Haqqani group, he said, was operating from North Waziristan and the Afghan Taliban Shura from Quetta.

“I was glad to read a few days ago that Pakistan’s leaders have been personally informed that we are in fact going to… act more directly,” he said, informing the committee that he had repeatedly written to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to have the Haqqani group added to the State Department’s list of foreign terrorist organisations.

Senator Levin visited Pakistan in August with a Senate delegation for talks on this and other issues.

“In our discussions with Pakistani officials, we heard the same excuses that we’ve heard before about why Pakistan forces are unable, for whatever reason, to go after the Haqqanis in Northern Waziristan,” he said.

He said that when I pressed Prime Minister Gilani on why Pakistan had not publicly condemned the deadly cross-border attack on US troops by the Haqqanis and by the Afghan Taliban, he was unable to provide an answer.

“And it is simply unacceptable … because of providing that safe haven and because of connections between Pakistan intelligence and the Haqqanis; Pakistan bears some responsibility for the attacks on us.”

Senator John McCain, the senior Republican member of the committee, said described the Haqqani network’s attacks into Afghanistan as “the fundamental reality from which we must proceed in re-evaluating our policy towards Pakistan”.

But Senator McCain also urged US lawmakers to recognise that abandoning Pakistan was not the answer.

“We tried that once. We cut off US assistance to Pakistan in the past and the problem got worse, not better. I say this with all humility, not recognising just yet what a better alternative approach would be,” he said.

In his opening statement, Secretary Panetta said the continuing presence of safe havens in Pakistan gave the insurgents advantages they had lost elsewhere in Afghanistan.

But the biggest shock – at least for Pakistani journalists covering the proceedings – came when Admiral Mullen directly blamed the ISI for orchestrating attacks on US targets inside Afghanistan.

“No less worrisome challenge we face is the impunity with which certain extremist groups are allowed to operate from Pakistani soil,” he said.

“In choosing to use violent extremism as an instrument of policy, the government of Pakistan and most especially the Pakistani Army and ISI, jeopardises not only the prospect of our strategic partnership, but Pakistan’s opportunity to be a respected nation with legitimate, regional influence,” he said.

“They may believe that by using these proxies they are hedging their bets, or redressing what they feel is an imbalance in regional power. But in reality they have already lost that bet,” said the admiral.

“By exporting violence, they have eroded their internal security and their position in the region. They have undermined their international credibility and threatened their economic wellbeing

The US military advised Pakistani leaders that only a decision to break with this policy can pave the road to a positive future for Pakistan.

“I’ve expended enormous energy on this relationship. I’ve met with Gen Kayani more than two-dozen times, including a two and a half hour meeting last weekend in Spain,” he recalled.

“I’ve done this because I believe in the importance of Pakistan to the region. Because I believe that we share a common interest against terrorism and because I recognise the great political and economic difficulties Pakistan faces.”

Admiral Mullen said he had also done this because he believed a flawed and difficult relationship was better than no relationship at all.

“Some may argue I’ve wasted my time, that Pakistan is no closer to us than before and may now have drifted even further away. I disagree. Military cooperation again is warming. Information flow between us and across the border is quickening. Transparency is returning, slowly,” said the US military chief while defending his contacts with his Pakistani counterpart.

“Indeed I think we would be in a far tougher situation in the wake of the frostiness which fell over us after the Bin Laden raid, where it not for the ground work Gen Kayani and I have laid,” he said. “Were it not for the fact that we could at least have a conversation about the way ahead, however difficult that conversation might be.”

Admiral Mullen urged US lawmakers to help create more stakeholders in Pakistan’s prosperity, help the Pakistani people address their economic, political and internal security challenges and promote Indian-Pakistani cooperation on the basis of true sovereign equality.

“It can’t just always be about counter-terrorism, not in the long run. Success in the region will require effort outside the realm of security.”

He also urged the US to help establish a reconciliation process internal to Afghanistan that provides for a redress of grievances and a state-to-state interaction between Afghanistan and Pakistan to resolve matters of mutual concern.

“And we must make clear to friends and enemies alike, that American presence and interest and commitment, are not defined by boots on the ground, but rather by persistent open and mutually beneficial engagement,” said the admiral.

When Senator Levin asked Secretary Panetta to underline the options the US had for dealing with Pakistan, the US defence chief said “I think the first order of business right now is to frankly put as much pressure on Pakistan as we can to deal with this issue from their side.”

Referring to Admiral Mullen’s meeting with General Kayani in Spain last week and Director CIA David Piraeus’s meeting with Gen. Shuja Pasha in Washington on Tuesday, Secretary Panetta said: “There has been a very clear message to them and to others that they must take steps to prevent this safe haven that the Haqqanis are using. We simply cannot allow these kinds of terrorists to be able to go into Afghanistan, attack our forces and then return to Pakistan for safe haven and not face any kind of pressure from the Pakistanis, for that that to stop.”
 
from: Rift widens with new US allegations, blunt threat | Newspaper | DAWN.COM

WASHINGTON: Gloves are off as US Secretary of Defence Leon Panetta threatened to take “operational steps” against Pakistan while the American military chief Admiral Mike Mullen accused the ISI of having used its “veritable arm” for attacking the US Embassy in Kabul.

Weeks of incessant pressure on Pakistan to undo the Haqqani network, which also brought the ISI chief to Washington on Tuesday, led to the final showdown on Thursday at a Senate hearing where Admiral Mullen also blamed Islamabad for jeopardising a strategic partnership with the United States.

“I don’t think it would be helpful to describe what those options would look like and talk about what operational steps we may or may not take,” Secretary Panetta told the Senate Committee on Armed Services when asked what actions could the US take against Pakistan if it failed to curb the Haqqani network.“Are Pakistani leaders aware of what options are open to us so that they’re not caught by any surprise if in fact we take steps against that network?” asked the committee’s chairman Senator Carl Levin.

“I don’t think they would be surprised by the actions that we might or might not take,” said Mr Panetta while noting that US leaders had recently had a series of meetings with Pakistani leaders on the issue.

Admiral Mullen, who in previous congressional hearings had defended Pakistan, joined Mr Panetta, indicating that all US leaders were united in backing a possible punitive action against the country should it fail to act against the Haqqani network.

“The Haqqani network, for one, acts as a veritable arm of Pakistan’s internal services intelligence agency. With ISI support, the Haqqani operatives planned and conducted that truck bomb attack, as well as the assault on our embassy,” he told the committee.

“We also have credible intelligence that they were behind the June 28th attack on the Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul and a host of other smaller, but effective operations.”

The scene for the showdown was set by Senator Levin who, in his opening remarks, described cross-border attacks from Fata as “the foremost threat” to the US and coalition forces in Afghanistan.

The Haqqani group, he said, was operating from North Waziristan and the Afghan Taliban Shura from Quetta.

“I was glad to read a few days ago that Pakistan’s leaders have been personally informed that we are in fact going to… act more directly,” he said, informing the committee that he had repeatedly written to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to have the Haqqani group added to the State Department’s list of foreign terrorist organisations.

Senator Levin visited Pakistan in August with a Senate delegation for talks on this and other issues.

“In our discussions with Pakistani officials, we heard the same excuses that we’ve heard before about why Pakistan forces are unable, for whatever reason, to go after the Haqqanis in Northern Waziristan,” he said.

He said that when I pressed Prime Minister Gilani on why Pakistan had not publicly condemned the deadly cross-border attack on US troops by the Haqqanis and by the Afghan Taliban, he was unable to provide an answer.

“And it is simply unacceptable … because of providing that safe haven and because of connections between Pakistan intelligence and the Haqqanis; Pakistan bears some responsibility for the attacks on us.”

Senator John McCain, the senior Republican member of the committee, said described the Haqqani network’s attacks into Afghanistan as “the fundamental reality from which we must proceed in re-evaluating our policy towards Pakistan”.

But Senator McCain also urged US lawmakers to recognise that abandoning Pakistan was not the answer.

“We tried that once. We cut off US assistance to Pakistan in the past and the problem got worse, not better. I say this with all humility, not recognising just yet what a better alternative approach would be,” he said.

In his opening statement, Secretary Panetta said the continuing presence of safe havens in Pakistan gave the insurgents advantages they had lost elsewhere in Afghanistan.

But the biggest shock – at least for Pakistani journalists covering the proceedings – came when Admiral Mullen directly blamed the ISI for orchestrating attacks on US targets inside Afghanistan.

“No less worrisome challenge we face is the impunity with which certain extremist groups are allowed to operate from Pakistani soil,” he said.

“In choosing to use violent extremism as an instrument of policy, the government of Pakistan and most especially the Pakistani Army and ISI, jeopardises not only the prospect of our strategic partnership, but Pakistan’s opportunity to be a respected nation with legitimate, regional influence,” he said.

“They may believe that by using these proxies they are hedging their bets, or redressing what they feel is an imbalance in regional power. But in reality they have already lost that bet,” said the admiral.

“By exporting violence, they have eroded their internal security and their position in the region. They have undermined their international credibility and threatened their economic wellbeing.”

The US military advised Pakistani leaders that only a decision to break with this policy can pave the road to a positive future for Pakistan.

“I’ve expended enormous energy on this relationship. I’ve met with Gen Kayani more than two-dozen times, including a two and a half hour meeting last weekend in Spain,” he recalled.

“I’ve done this because I believe in the importance of Pakistan to the region. Because I believe that we share a common interest against terrorism and because I recognise the great political and economic difficulties Pakistan faces.”

Admiral Mullen said he had also done this because he believed a flawed and difficult relationship was better than no relationship at all.

“Some may argue I’ve wasted my time, that Pakistan is no closer to us than before and may now have drifted even further away. I disagree. Military cooperation again is warming. Information flow between us and across the border is quickening. Transparency is returning, slowly,” said the US military chief while defending his contacts with his Pakistani counterpart.

“Indeed I think we would be in a far tougher situation in the wake of the frostiness which fell over us after the Bin Laden raid, where it not for the ground work Gen Kayani and I have laid,” he said. “Were it not for the fact that we could at least have a conversation about the way ahead, however difficult that conversation might be.”

Admiral Mullen urged US lawmakers to help create more stakeholders in Pakistan’s prosperity, help the Pakistani people address their economic, political and internal security challenges and promote Indian-Pakistani cooperation on the basis of true sovereign equality.

“It can’t just always be about counter-terrorism, not in the long run. Success in the region will require effort outside the realm of security.”

He also urged the US to help establish a reconciliation process internal to Afghanistan that provides for a redress of grievances and a state-to-state interaction between Afghanistan and Pakistan to resolve matters of mutual concern.

“And we must make clear to friends and enemies alike, that American presence and interest and commitment, are not defined by boots on the ground, but rather by persistent open and mutually beneficial engagement,” said the admiral.

When Senator Levin asked Secretary Panetta to underline the options the US had for dealing with Pakistan, the US defence chief said “I think the first order of business right now is to frankly put as much pressure on Pakistan as we can to deal with this issue from their side.”

Referring to Admiral Mullen’s meeting with General Kayani in Spain last week and Director CIA David Piraeus’s meeting with Gen. Shuja Pasha in Washington on Tuesday, Secretary Panetta said: “There has been a very clear message to them and to others that they must take steps to prevent this safe haven that the Haqqanis are using. We simply cannot allow these kinds of terrorists to be able to go into Afghanistan, attack our forces and then return to Pakistan for safe haven and not face any kind of pressure from the Pakistanis, for that that to stop.”

Yeah, wtf do you call Raymond Davis then? An Ambassador of peace? Get your head together man. And Raymond Davis is/was not the only one.
 
WOW. So America sends TTP to destabilize Pakistan, While Pakistan apparently destabilizes American forces with the Haqqani Network in Pakistan. Pakistan, we can understand is doing this because they feel their sovereignty as a country is being disregarded, but why is America taking these steps? Are you looking at the bigger picture or do you think that American policies around the world are SUPREME?

I am indeed looking at the bigger picture, and doing so while being cognizant of the fact that pursuit of US national interests is the prime directive, always has been, and always will be, no matter what.

Again, your concerns are valid because we both, we all, know, that may well be the eventuality - I don't think we need to be concerned about "conflicts" - but I don't believe GHQ is acting alone and I don't buy the "Get Haqqani" line, I know first hand what passes for Afghan "intelligence" and I also know the credibility of that "intelligence" among US allies.

Should Pakistani civil society be concerned? Perhaps, I may be just too dazzled by the opportunity, and maybe I am having a hard time, seeing the down side. We can be pretty sure Pakistan's allies do not want a confrontation with the US, at least not overtly.

As I have said many times before, this frog will be boiled in the best tradition of slowly bringing the water to boil. There is no need for overt hostilities.

---------- Post added at 09:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:25 PM ----------

Yeah, wtf do you call Raymond Davis then? An Ambassador of peace? Get your head together man. And Raymond Davis is/was not the only one.

It seems to me that my head is perfectly together, thank you very much. Please go over my posts in the RD thread, and you will see that I was correct then, and I will be shown to be correct now too.
 
Hi,

Some of you people surprise me again-----. Those of you who stated after u s embassy bombings in kenya---after uss cole strike in the gulf that the u s won't do anything----after the cruise missile strikes----that is all the u s is going to doooo nothingggggggg.

And then came 9/11---and then there quite a few who said ---ehnnnnnn---u s won't do nothing-----ask that to two million plus dead muslims in afg and iraq----.

Pakistan is being prepped----the american public is being readied----.

Foolish pakistanis need to understand that it is election year coming up----the current president is in a terrible position----american mindset is all ready for a millitary strike on pakistan----don't be surprised that if it happens any sooner than later.
 
Hi,

Some of you people surprise me again-----..

Foolish pakistanis need to understand that it is election year coming up----the current president is in a terrible position----american mindset is all ready for a millitary strike on pakistan----don't be surprised that if it happens any sooner than later.


Yes, I don't think that's such a bad thing.


As I have said many times before, this frog will be boiled in the best tradition of slowly bringing the water to boil. There is no need for overt hostilities.
VCheng


Yes, I believe that's the plan, for both -- Does it concern you at all that DoD is in the lead in this?
 
I am indeed looking at the bigger picture, and doing so while being cognizant of the fact that pursuit of US national interests is the prime directive, always has been, and always will be, no matter what.



As I have said many times before, this frog will be boiled in the best tradition of slowly bringing the water to boil. There is no need for overt hostilities.

---------- Post added at 09:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:25 PM ----------



It seems to me that my head is perfectly together, thank you very much. Please go over my posts in the RD thread, and you will see that I was correct then, and I will be shown to be correct now too.

Without the country, ISI would be nothing and they are only protecting their assets and the country. If you are discrediting the ISI of bringing stability to the country then I would have to most certainly disagree with you. Simple as that.
 
Hi,

Some of you people surprise me again-----. Those of you who stated after u s embassy bombings in kenya---after uss cole strike in the gulf that the u s won't do anything----after the cruise missile strikes----that is all the u s is going to doooo nothingggggggg.

And then came 9/11---and then there quite a few who said ---ehnnnnnn---u s won't do nothing-----ask that to two million plus dead muslims in afg and iraq----.

Pakistan is being prepped----the american public is being readied----.

Foolish pakistanis need to understand that it is election year coming up----the current president is in a terrible position----american mindset is all ready for a millitary strike on pakistan----don't be surprised that if it happens any sooner than later.

Yes, election year is coming up, but the American masses want the US to withdraw their troops, not open another front against a nation with 5 times the population of Afghanistan, & a very capable one as well when push comes to shove.

Obama is under pressure to withdraw, it is the DoD that is pushing the civilian government to sanction opening a new front against Pakistan, which I don't think will be happening. The US isn't in the economic position to act overtly against Pakistan, so overt action is out of the question.

I don't see much difference in the geopolitics of the region, the US will continue being frustrated with Pakistan in Afghanistan, the American people will express their frustration at the poor economic conditions, the US will conduct regular drone strikes, maybe expand the area in which the drones operate. But it will all be futile as they will feel the repercussions of these actions in Afghanistan. So things will not change drastically.
 
Foolish pakistanis need to understand that it is election year coming up----the current president is in a terrible position----american mindset is all ready for a millitary strike on pakistan----don't be surprised that if it happens any sooner than later.

I don't think there will be any military strikes on Pakistan, any more than the likes of the OBL raid, and such will be few.

When you notice the tone of Mullen after his meeting with Pasha this last Tuesday, you can clearly see that there is going to be another secret deal on the same line of drone strikes deal. I cannot really pinpoint what the deal will be about, but "boots on the ground" will never be feasible, considering the terrain of FATA.

An overt/direct military strike on Pakistan will not only be disastrous for the region but also for any future plans of the US in the region - which (the plans) are certainly very lucrative and long term.
 
Hi,

Gen Kiyani and Gen Pasha are now being publicly slapped around by Gen Mullen and Leon Panetta----.

The incursion in abbotabad saw the pak millitary---that is air force and ground faces fell on their faces----the negativity that brought onto the millitary might of pakistan cannot be reversed.

Through all this---the only thing that is visible is HOW BIG OF A COWARD Gen Kiyani is-----his army and his nation has been slammed and dragged through hell and he is still the proverbial QUIET GUY----what a despicable coward----.

At least Musharraf could stand upto the americans and give them a piece of his mind on public tv----then there is Gen Pasha-----a general with an ALWAYS SCOWL on his face-----.

Pakistan has suffered tremendously during the tenure of these two generals in the public trust world wide----and for some strange reason only known to the pakistanis---we still love these incompetent generals.

Sire. If a General speaks openly under a Civilian setup, then isn't it strengthen the conspiracy theorist beliefs that Generals of Army is going to act unilaterally by sidelining the civilian setup?

This is the Job of BLOODY CIVILIAN CHAPS to come in PARLIMENT and ISSUE a UNIFIED resoulution to SHOW they are STANDING besides the ARMY so that ARMY can SPEAK it's mind INDEPENDENTLY and WITHOUT creating CONTROVERSIES from WITHIN
 
Volley heats up: ISI targeted in bitter Mullen tirade – The Express Tribune

WASHINGTON: The accusations have grown more blunt, the attacks more personal, and the reactions more punitive.

The top US military officer called the Haqqani network a “veritable arm” of Pakistan’s intelligence service on Thursday, and accused Pakistan of “exporting” violent extremism to Afghanistan.“The Haqqani network … acts as a veritable arm of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence Agency,” Admiral Mike Mullen, who steps down this month as chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, said to a US Senate panel.

“With ISI support, Haqqani operatives planned and conducted (a September 11) truck bomb attack, as well as the assault on our embassy,” Mullen said.

“We also have credible intelligence that they were behind the June 28 attack against the Inter-Continental Hotel in Kabul and a host of other smaller but effective operations.”“In choosing to use violent extremism as an instrument of policy, the government of Pakistan – and most especially the Pakistani Army and the ISI – jeopardises not only the prospect of our strategic partnership, but also Pakistan’s opportunity to be a respected nation with legitimate regional influence,” Mullen said.

“By exporting violence, they have eroded their internal security and their position in the region. They have undermined their international credibility and threatened their economic well-being,” Mullen said.

Meanwhile, in a startling accusation on Thursday, the Guardian reported that the American Nato commander in Afghanistan personally asked Pakistan’s army chief to halt an insurgent truck bomb headed for his troops, two days before a huge explosion that wounded 77 US soldiers at a base near Kabul.

On September 8, General John Allen raised intelligence reports of the impending truck bomb during a meeting with General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani in Islamabad, the Guardian reported.
The report added that Kayani promised Allen he would “make a phone call” to try to stop the attack.

“The offer raised eyebrows,” the paper quoted an official with close knowledge of the meeting.
Two days later, an explosives-rigged truck ploughed into the gates of the US base in Wardak, 50 miles southwest of Kabul, injuring 77 US soldiers and killing two Afghan civilians.

The Guardian quoted Pakistani military spokesman, General Athar Abbas, as saying: “Let’s suppose it was the case. The main question is how did this truck travel to Wardak and explode without being checked by Nato? This is just a blame game.”

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It cannot get any more blunt than this.:disagree:

Tough choices ahead of Pakistan.
 

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