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US & Pakistan Dispute and Tensions over Haqqani group

They did do that. Hasn't happened in the last few months, but they did in 2009 or 2010. That's more or less my point about the argument that you're using - that an ally calls us this. Well, we did the same.

When did any of the Pakistani top leadership openly dared to call America a supporter of Terrorists.. (asking them to do more is not equal to calling them hand in glove with terrorists, like they routinely call you)
 
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When did any of the Pakistani top leadership openly dared to call America a supporter of Terrorists.. (asking them to do more is not equal to calling them hand in glove with terrorists, like they routinely call you)

it is well established that our and your political leaders are corrupt
 
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Pakistan government 'linked to militants', claims the United States | Herald Sun

THERE is evidence linking the Pakistani government with the Taliban-allied Haqqani network of militants, the US ambassador in Islamabad said, blaming the group for last week's siege in Kabul.

In blunt comments broadcast by state-run Radio Pakistan on Saturday, ambassador Cameron Munter said: "Let me tell you that the attack that took place in Kabul a few days ago, that was the work of the Haqqani network ...

"There is evidence linking the Haqqani network to the Pakistan government. This is something that must stop."

His remarks follow a warning by US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta, who said after the Kabul attack - in which rebels fired rockets at the US embassy and NATO headquarters, leaving 15 dead - that the US would retaliate against Pakistan-based insurgents.

The US has long urged Pakistan to take action against the Haqqani network and suspected the group had support within Pakistan's feared intelligence services.


But the public comments are a mark of strained ties between the fragile anti-terror allies, with relations fractious since the US raid on Pakistani soil that killed al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in May.

Asked to provide evidence of the link with the Pakistani government, Munter said only "we believe that to be the case".

Acknowledging that the past year had been "tough", he urged joint action against terrorism and said that the US and Pakistan were "fundamentally on the same side".

There was no immediate reaction from Islamabad to the allegations but the Pakistani government has strenuously denied any links to militant groups.

The Haqqani network is thought to have been behind some of the deadliest attacks in Afghanistan, where NATO plans a gradual withdrawal of troops after a gruelling 10-year war.

Militants frequently cross the porous Afghan-Pakistani border and the Haqqanis, who are closely allied with Pakistani and Afghan Taliban and also linked to al-Qaeda, only launch attacks in Afghanistan.

"The key here is that this is going to take a real effort to work together, to identify who the enemy is," Munter said.
Jalaluddin Haqqani, founder of the network, and his son Sirajuddin, who now runs the group, have both been designated "global terrorists" by Washington.

Sirajuddin claims to command more than 4,000 fighters and his network was blamed for a suicide bombing in 2009 in Afghanistan that killed seven CIA operatives.

US officials have accused Pakistani intelligence of playing a double game with extremists, including the Afghan Taliban and the Haqqani network, in order to exert influence in Afghanistan and offset the might of arch-rival India.

"Time and again we've urged the Pakistanis to exercise their influence over these kinds of attacks from the Haqqanis and we've made very little progress in that area," Panetta said on Wednesday, a day after the Kabul siege.

"I'm not going to talk about how we're going to respond. I'll just let you know that we're not going to allow these kinds of attacks to go on."

Pakistan's foreign ministry condemned those remarks as "out of line", saying that "terrorism and militancy is a complex issue".

The top US and Pakistani military leaders met late on Friday on the sidelines of a NATO conference in Spain in the hope of improving ties.

Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mike Mullen and his counterpart General Ashfaq Kayani, seen as the most influential figure in Pakistan, sat down for more than two hours.

"They agreed that the relationship between our two countries remained vital to the region and that both sides had taken positive steps to improve that relationship over the past few months," Mullen's spokesman Captain John Kirby said.

The 19-hour Taliban assault on Kabul turned the city's most heavily secured district into a battle zone, with six foreign troops wounded in the attack.

NATO's force in Afghanistan said it captured two suspects over the siege - which was claimed by the Taliban - one of them a member of the Haqqani network and the other a Taliban militant who had also planned vehicle-bomb attacks.

Before the Kabul attack, the US military blamed Haqqani militants for a truck bombing on September 10 against a NATO base in Wardak province, which wounded 77 American troops.

Thousands of Pakistani troops have been killed fighting insurgents, but Islamabad has focused mainly on combatting the Pakistani Taliban.
 
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Pakistan government 'linked to militants', claims the United States

THERE is evidence linking the Pakistani government with the Taliban-allied Haqqani network of militants, the US ambassador in Islamabad said, blaming the group for last week's siege in Kabul.

In blunt comments broadcast by state-run Radio Pakistan on Saturday, ambassador Cameron Munter said: "Let me tell you that the attack that took place in Kabul a few days ago, that was the work of the Haqqani network ...

"There is evidence linking the Haqqani network to the Pakistan government. This is something that must stop."
:tongue::tongue: :woot:

His remarks follow a warning by US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta, who said after the Kabul attack - in which rebels fired rockets at the US embassy and NATO headquarters, leaving 15 dead - that the US would retaliate against Pakistan-based insurgents.

The US has long urged Pakistan to take action against the Haqqani network and suspected the group had support within Pakistan's feared intelligence services.


But the public comments are a mark of strained ties between the fragile anti-terror allies, with relations fractious since the US raid on Pakistani soil that killed al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in May.

Asked to provide evidence of the link with the Pakistani government, Munter said only "we believe that to be the case".

Acknowledging that the past year had been "tough", he urged joint action against terrorism and said that the US and Pakistan were "fundamentally on the same side".

There was no immediate reaction from Islamabad to the allegations but the Pakistani government has strenuously denied any links to militant groups.

The Haqqani network is thought to have been behind some of the deadliest attacks in Afghanistan, where NATO plans a gradual withdrawal of troops after a gruelling 10-year war.

Militants frequently cross the porous Afghan-Pakistani border and the Haqqanis, who are closely allied with Pakistani and Afghan Taliban and also linked to al-Qaeda, only launch attacks in Afghanistan.

"The key here is that this is going to take a real effort to work together, to identify who the enemy is," Munter said.
Jalaluddin Haqqani, founder of the network, and his son Sirajuddin, who now runs the group, have both been designated "global terrorists" by Washington.

Sirajuddin claims to command more than 4,000 fighters and his network was blamed for a suicide bombing in 2009 in Afghanistan that killed seven CIA operatives.

US officials have accused Pakistani intelligence of playing a double game with extremists, including the Afghan Taliban and the Haqqani network, in order to exert influence in Afghanistan and offset the might of arch-rival India.

"Time and again we've urged the Pakistanis to exercise their influence over these kinds of attacks from the Haqqanis and we've made very little progress in that area," Panetta said on Wednesday, a day after the Kabul siege.

"I'm not going to talk about how we're going to respond. I'll just let you know that we're not going to allow these kinds of attacks to go on."

Pakistan's foreign ministry condemned those remarks as "out of line", saying that "terrorism and militancy is a complex issue".

The top US and Pakistani military leaders met late on Friday on the sidelines of a NATO conference in Spain in the hope of improving ties.

Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mike Mullen and his counterpart General Ashfaq Kayani, seen as the most influential figure in Pakistan, sat down for more than two hours.

"They agreed that the relationship between our two countries remained vital to the region and that both sides had taken positive steps to improve that relationship over the past few months," Mullen's spokesman Captain John Kirby said.

The 19-hour Taliban assault on Kabul turned the city's most heavily secured district into a battle zone, with six foreign troops wounded in the attack.

NATO's force in Afghanistan said it captured two suspects over the siege - which was claimed by the Taliban - one of them a member of the Haqqani network and the other a Taliban militant who had also planned vehicle-bomb attacks.

Before the Kabul attack, the US military blamed Haqqani militants for a truck bombing on September 10 against a NATO base in Wardak province, which wounded 77 American troops.

Thousands of Pakistani troops have been killed fighting insurgents, but Islamabad has focused mainly on combatting the Pakistani Taliban.


Pakistan government 'linked to militants', claims the United States | Herald Sun

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U.S. links Pakistan to group it blames for Kabul attack

By Qasim Nauman

Islamabad | Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:42pm EDT

(Reuters) - The United States accused Pakistan on Saturday of having links to a militant group Washington blames for an attack on the U.S. embassy and other targets in Kabul and said the government in Islamabad must cut those ties.

"The attack that took place in Kabul a few days ago, that was the work of the Haqqani network," the U.S. ambassador to Pakistan, Cameron Munter, told Radio Pakistan in comments aired on Saturday.

"There is evidence linking the Haqqani Network to the Pakistan government. This is something that must stop."

The Haqqani network is one of three, and perhaps the most feared, of the Taliban allied insurgent factions fighting U.S.-led NATO and Afghan troops in Afghanistan.

Insurgents in a bomb-laden truck occupied a building in Kabul on Tuesday, raining rockets and gunfire on the U.S. embassy and other targets in the diplomatic quarter of the Afghan capital, and battled police during a 20 hour siege.

Five Afghan police and 11 civilians were killed.

Washington has long blamed militants sheltering in Pakistan for violence in Afghanistan. Islamabad says its forces are taking high casualties fighting insurgents, and bristles at any suggestion it provides support for fighters.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta warned Pakistan on Wednesday the United States would "do everything we can" to defend U.S. forces from Pakistan-based militants staging attacks in Afghanistan.

Munter suggested ties with Pakistan, which relies heavily on billions of dollars of U.S. aid, were still heavily strained, despite recent comments from both sides on strong counter-terrorism cooperation.

"These relations today need a lot of work," he said.

The Haqqani network is perhaps the most divisive issue between the two allies, whose ties have been badly damaged by the unilateral American raid that killed Osama bin Laden in a Pakistani town in May.

Pakistani officials were not immediately available for reaction on Munter's comments.

"The key here is that this is going to take a real effort to work together, to agree who the enemy is, to make sure that we identify those people who will attack Pakistanis, Afghans, and Americans, that we do not give them any space anywhere," Munter told Radio Pakistan.

"These people have to be pursued everywhere. We will work with our Pakistani friends to make that happen but we cannot put up with this kind of fight. We have to make sure that in our talks with your leadership, we figure out the best way to put these attacks to an end."

The United States has repeatedly pressed Pakistan to go after the network, which it believes is one of the most lethal organizations in Afghanistan and enjoys sanctuaries in North Waziristan, a global hub for militants near the Afghan border.

Pakistan's powerful Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) has long been suspected of maintaining ties to the Haqqani network, cultivated during the 1980s when its founder Jalaluddin Haqqani was a feared battlefield commander against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

Asked if the Haqqani network was behind the Kabul assault, Sirajuddin Haqqani, the group's leader, told Reuters in a telephone interview on Saturday from an undisclosed location:

"For some reasons, I would not like to claim that fighters of our group had carried out the recent attack on U.S. embassy and NATO headquarters. Our central leadership, particularly senior members of the shura, suggested I should keep quiet in future if the US and its allies suffer in future."

The Haqqanis are thought to have introduced suicide bombing to Afghanistan, and are believed to have been behind high-profile attacks there, including a raid on Kabul's top hotel and an assassination attempt on the president.

In one example of the Haqqani group's effectiveness, they are believed to have helped an al Qaeda suicide bomber who killed seven CIA agents at a U.S. base in eastern Afghanistan last year, the deadliest strike on the agency in decades.

U.S. links Pakistan to group it blames for Kabul attack | Reuters
 
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US is realy doing great job by tracing terrorists and killing them in their own hood :usflag:

I have full faith that US will also kill this haqqani militants just like they killed dust-bin laden
 
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I already know your source express tribune right?

lol, US has Evidence...wear your glasses and read again

Evidence ties Haqqani group to Pakistan: Munter | Pakistan | DAWN.COM

And what is the 'Evidence'?

"Evidence' like 'Iraq has WMD's' that was shouted from the rooftops and in front of the entire UN, only to be found out to be lies and distortions?

If there is 'evidence', and the US is openly claiming there is 'evidence', then there should be nothing stopping them from publicizing it ...
 
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You indians and you conspiracy theories........! ok genius! cut the crap out or post something sensible.

Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Afghan Taliban have always relied on support by the Pakistani army in the past and are still supported by them today in their campaign to control Afghanistan.[12][14] Regular Pakistani army troops fought alongside the Afghan Taliban in the War in Afghanistan (1996–2001).[15] Major leaders of the Afghan Taliban including Mullah Omar, Jalaluddin Haqqani and Siraj Haqqani are believed to enjoy safe haven in Pakistan.[14] In 2006 Jalaluddin Haqqani was called a 'Pakistani asset' by a senior official of Inter-Services Intelligence.[14] Pakistan regards the Haqqani's as an important force for protecting its interests in Afghanistan and therefore have been unwilling to move against them.[14]
 
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Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Afghan Taliban have always relied on support by the Pakistani army in the past and are still supported by them today in their campaign to control Afghanistan.[12][14] Regular Pakistani army troops fought alongside the Afghan Taliban in the War in Afghanistan (1996–2001).[15] Major leaders of the Afghan Taliban including Mullah Omar, Jalaluddin Haqqani and Siraj Haqqani are believed to enjoy safe haven in Pakistan.[14] In 2006 Jalaluddin Haqqani was called a 'Pakistani asset' by a senior official of Inter-Services Intelligence.[14] Pakistan regards the Haqqani's as an important force for protecting its interests in Afghanistan and therefore have been unwilling to move against them.[14]

Thanx for enlightening him with your useful post sir :tup: :tup:
 
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When did any of the Pakistani top leadership openly dared to call America a supporter of Terrorists.. (asking them to do more is not equal to calling them hand in glove with terrorists, like they routinely call you)

In 2009 or 2010, they said CIA was supporting TTP straight to American leader's faces. They didn't ask them to do more.
 
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In 2009 or 2010, they said CIA was supporting TTP straight to American leader's faces. They didn't ask them to do more.

You have any link that can give more details?? I may have missed it.. I assume we are talking about someone in the cabinet or similar levels.. not an anonymous source or a 2 bit lackey..
 
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You have any link that can give more details?? I may have missed it.. I assume we are talking about someone in the cabinet or similar levels.. not an anonymous source or a 2 bit lackey..

Honestly can't be arsed to dig up that old a story, takes a really long time. I can assure you it did happen though, believe it or not. Besides, you seem to have done it again - completely diverted the story to something more or less completely off topic.

The bigger question is, where is US evidence for these claims?
 
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Wikipedia.. :lol: Now official information source for bharatis. What's more interesting, it's a news source that they write and thenm sell to the whole world. :lol:

Wake up guys, no one takes these kind of wikipedia articles seriously.
 
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