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US opens defence tech arsenal to India, 7 new offers on table

You are mistaken if you think the production has "stopped" and the US can't afford it. The Production for the CURRENT batch has stopped. You'll see more being inducted in the next 3-5 years. The production for the current batch was primarily reduced to support -35. Which brings in very similar and some newer capabilities and at less cost. But the -22 has its own level and it will be produced more in the near couple of years.
In 2010, USAF initiated a study to determine the costs of retaining F-22 tooling for a future Service Life Extension Program (SLEP). A RAND paper from this study estimated that restarting production and building an additional 75 F-22s would cost $17 billion, resulting in $227 million per aircraft or 54 million higher than the flyaway cost.

However, Lockheed Martin stated that restarting the production line would cost a little over $200 million per unit.

Robert Gates, speaking on the cancellation said that the Pentagon cannot continue with business as usual when it comes to the F-22 or any other program in excess of our needs. So the question is, does the Pentagon need additional F-22s, keeping future threat perceptions in view?
 
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even new defence technologies for joint development have been offered by US defence secretary Chuck Hagel in meetings with his Indian counterparts, say Indian and US sources.

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US defense secretary Chuck Hagel laying a wreath on Amar Jawan Jyoti at India Gate in New Delhi. (HT Photo/Raj K Raj)
Hagel –on a three-day visit to India -- alluded to one of them, big data, in a Saturday speech on bilateral defence relations and spoke of “over a dozen concrete proposals” being on the table. Sources say the United States has also offered a number of cyber security options to India.

One of the key offers, big data — in which US leads the world — involves employing path-breaking algorithms to help predict terrorist attacks and for smart surveillance, such as using family relationships to find the whereabouts of Saddam Hussein. Other technologies on the table include the cutting edge anti-tank Javelin missile, the Hawk 21 surface-to-air missile and magnetic catapults, which help larger planes take off from smaller ships.



The defence secretary’s mission was to revive Indo-US defence relations, especially the moribund two-year-old defence trade and technology initiative (DTTI).

“The DTTI is the centrepiece of our defence relationship,” said Hagel at the event organised by the Observer Research Foundation.

Under the DTTI, the US had asked India to join in co-producing and co-developing a series of cutting edge weapons and technologies. Though the US offered 10 weapons technologies, the programme failed to take off under the last government.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi is determined to put the private sector in the front seat of India’s defence sector and reduce the country’s dependence on imported arms. With the private sector insisting on the need for foreign technology, the US’s joint weapons development offers are seen as a potential match for both sides.

Read: US, India must improve defence cooperation, says Chuck Hagel

Hagel held a roundtable with India Inc on Saturday evening. In contrast, the UPA government kept the Indian private sector at a distance from the DTTI, said industry sources.

Implementation, however, remains a concern, say sources. Hagel, too, warned against “red tape” on both sides getting in the way of building military industrial cooperation.

He also spoke of the need for “greater clarity” on the offsets needed under the new 49% FDI in defence policy.

Hagel noted the US has not proposed such a co-development, co-production programme “with any other country”.

In addition, the defence secretary said he had invited Jaitley to meet other US ministers in September to discuss a new bilateral defence framework as the existing five-year agreement expires next year.

Hagel also praised ailing former external affairs minister Jaswant Singh for transforming Indo-US bilateral ties.

“Our thoughts are with Jaswant Singh who is one of India’s most distinguished soldier-statesmen. He transformed India-US relations,” said Hagel. The former BJP leader has been hospitalized since Friday and is in a critical condition.

US opens defence tech arsenal to India, 7 new offers on table - Hindustan Times

Great news we can learn a lot from the US

They may just give that to you by next decade in return for fully joining against China.

Interested?

Even if every Indian pledge allegiance to the USA they will still not transfer anything related to F-22
 
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Great news we can learn a lot from the US



Even if every Indian pledge allegiance to the USA they will still not transfer anything related to F-22
Get American weapons and you will learn alot from world soon :enjoy:
 
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India needs us more than we need them IMO.
it would be great to have deeper ties with India and both can make some $$
but I wonder what India can bring to table in joint development and how it would help us.

you get our Friendship :enjoy: & more $$ since even you are facing cash crunch

I see.
we just need to take it slow and see how the dice rolls with these deals
we need jobs here, but the defense industry shouldn't be the only thing we should focus on. maybe we can work on some clean energy agreements as well.

Well we are very advanced in one area of Nuclear research in which you have not stepped in Thorium research,maybe with America's help we can accelerate the research in this area
 
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We want KFC to become completely Indian........:rofl:
col Sander's batter recipe and the coke formula is all we really need :enjoy:

but seriously, forget about the f22, even the Israelis didn't get em.

and what exactly are magnetic catapults ? not CATOBAR which is steam based, right ? and INS vikramaditya has a ski jump, so magnetic catapult for Vikrant maybe ?
 
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First off all Indians need to stop living in dreams F 22 no chance they may get Artillery and Anti Tank weapons and also some latest warships like the latest corvette but Pakistan and China will be soon with the answers infact China has developed a new really advanced Anti Tank

we are moving towards cooperation with China,hostilities are a thing of past
 
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Well we are very advanced in one area of Nuclear research in which you have not stepped in Thorium research,maybe with America's help we can accelerate the research in this area


Now this may surprise you some-what: India is ahead of USA in research on Thorium Fuel and Breeder Reactors. Americans did not pursue that route very far, for some reasons specific to them. India can share know-how wrt that area of work.
 
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Now this may surprise you some-what: India is ahead of USA in research on Thorium Fuel and Breeder Reactors. Americans did not pursue that route very far, for some reasons specific to them. India can share know-how wrt that area of work.

I know that,but America has a very large R&D base maybe we can use it to accelerate our thorium program
 
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Now this may surprise you some-what: India is ahead of USA in research on Thorium Fuel and Breeder Reactors. Americans did not pursue that route very far, for some reasons specific to them. India can share know-how wrt that area of work.



That was only because the US did not put any focus on it since they had an adundance of Uranium. Since news of India's thorium and breeder reactors hit the news, the US and a host of other nations have been able to replicate advances almost immediately.
 
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That was only because the US did not put any focus on it since they had an adundance of Uranium. Since news of India's thorium and breeder reactors hit the news, the US and a host of other nations have been able to replicate advances almost immediately.


No. That is not quite how it is. To start with; USA has little Thorium regardless the abundant access to Uranium. The only Western Country to pursue the FBR route was France, in fact they were first off the blocks. While India and France actively shared information to get where they have. Even China has done more work in this field than USA.
 
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No. That is not quite how it is. To start with; USA has little Thorium regardless the abundant access to Uranium. The only Western Country to pursue the FBR route was France, in fact they were first off the blocks. While India and France actively shared information to get where they have. Even China has done more work in this field than USA.


Yes thats what I pointed out the US has abundant Uranium resources. The US has already replicated the fast breeder a few yrs back already. There is on going research.
 
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The Indians on this site seem to put India on this high pedestal. Let's be practical, pragmatic and realistic. The need for this hour is to be open minded and balanced. Saying we don't need the US is retarded when we do need the US and they need us. We can argue for yrs as for the greater need, but that's a waste of energy and pointless. Without the US, India would never be able to get rid of sanctions, access to nuke tech, etc. Remember, MMS went to the US to plead his case as well. This is a great opportunity that can empower the youth of India.



There are many problems but many, many opportunities to work with the US. As democracies, we have a responsibility to work together for the world.

Germans did horrible things under the Nazis during WW2, but look at them now. Japan also. We can keep on pointing fingers at the big bad US or wake up and realize its an opportunity that doesn't come around often, if ever. Do we still want to be 3rd rate power or do you want to transform the sleeping Elephant into Bengal Tiger?

Our focus with the US should be muilti faceted. Direction should given on R&D, space & marine colonization and exploration, food tech and security, education. green, clean energy, etc. The opportunities are limitless. We can all squander a great opportunity and let time go by.....or we can build the foundations of a future alliance that can change the world as we know it. Think big, stop letting the past and how others are treated cloud your thought process. India is not Pakistan nor is it Iraq.


You guys are quick to point out Iraq, yet have anyone of you ever talked to an Iraqi Kurd or Shia? I met many and they were all extremely greatful of the toppling of the Saddam regime. Sure, we have made mistakes but who hasn't? It comes with the territory. You act as if no Indian kingdoms created mistakes?

Stop being foolish. The US never attacked India and killed our ppl like China or Pakistan.

Trade has gone up to 100 billion pa
defense sales have reached 10 billion
investments both ways are on the up.

What the US wants is to break the glass ceiling in defense with one big JV project which will open the gates.
One sale of nuclear plant which will pave the way for more.
 
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