US, Japan, India, Australia ... is Quad the first step to an Asian Nato?

[BATMAN]

We need to find and fine the Mafia behind the anti IMCTC propaganda in Pakistan.

 

[Viet]

It doesn’t make sense for such grouping in my opinion. Japan and Australia are protected by US military umbrella. India is a nuclear armed power with one of the largest armies in the world. What does India get more in a US military led pact?

I see two scenarios for a Asia Nato.

One: Japan increases military spendings by two or three folds, acquiring nuclear weapons.

Two: India establishes own military alliance.

Japan and India invite small countries into their respective military pacts.

Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia can either join Japan or India.

 

[PeacefulWar]

It doesn’t make sense for such grouping in my opinion. Japan and Australia are protected by US military umbrella. India is a nuclear armed power with one of the largest armies in the world. What does India get more in a US military led pact?

I see two scenarios for a Asia Nato.

One: Japan increases military spendings by two or three folds, acquiring nuclear weapons.

Two: India establishes own military alliance.

Japan and India invite small countries into their respective military pacts.

Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia can either join Japan or India.

If Japan did that, the first country they would confront with is not China nor Russia, it would be the USA

 

[Rafi]

This is what people would say who are ignorant about this race play going on.

Just do a quick google search of asian women and white men and you will see everything.

You know exactly Jack $hit son.

 

[Sharky]

This alliance makes no sense to india.
Ideologically Indians and Chinese are more closer than americans.
We like and hate the same things.
If it weren't for Chinese support of Pakistan.. China India relationship would have taken asia to next level.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

This alliance makes no sense to india.
Ideologically Indians and Chinese are more closer than americans.
We like and hate the same things.
If it weren't for Chinese support of Pakistan.. China India relationship would have taken asia to next level.

Tell this to your policy makers.

 

[Sharky]

Tell this to your policy makers.

The moment china shifts her policy, india will become friends with china faster than you blink your eyes.

India and asia have much more to gain from strategic partnership with china than USA.

 

[Yankee-stani]

That is not it. Asian females actually hate Asian males and would rather mate with low quality white males than above average asian males. What kind of self -hatred is that ....

That's what I meant actually like wtf

BS.

Yeah its common

 

[Viet]

If Japan did that, the first country they would confront with is not China nor Russia, it would be the USA

It’s in the interest of US to have a military strengthened Japan.

The stronger Japan, the stronger the US/JP alliance.

A military capable Japan is the best counterweight to increasingly aggressive China.

that in turn is good for Vietnam.

 

[Rafi]

It makes me laugh at the kids on this forum, kids from every nationality and some older ones, who should know better, behaving like hormonal teenagers, jumping from one extreme to another.

Pakistan and China have a strategic partnership because their interests regarding india are perfectly aligned, and the land that constitutes both countries has had a relationship for thousands of years.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

The moment china shifts her policy, india will become friends with china faster than you blink your eyes.

India and Asia have much more to gain from strategic partnership with china than USA.

China is regional power with aspirations to become superpower. USA is already a superpower and and doesn't want a new queen in the hive. Meanwhile India aspires to dominate its region.

Neither of the three wants to change their views. China wants its hegemony, India wants its share and USA doesn't want to share its crown. So alliances will be made upon respective objectives.

 

[LeGenD]

Most of Chinese people take Pakistan as brothers and willing to help, because all the Chinese media say so

After people get on line Pakistan media like PDF, you know a different story, a lot of people here are very radical and very anti-china. they are radical and Short sight ,easy to be used as tools by the West or some religion

Listen friend,

Brothers can also have a difference of opinion.

Pakistan is making CPEC happen and this development is self-explanatory in terms of how Pakistan perceive China as a collective. Even though CPEC have not lived up to its hype for a while but WE are patient and want it to work.

Pakistani are not anti-China on average; Pakistan have never attempted to 'undermine' China in any way or form at official capacity (foreign policy matters).

However, Pakistan have its share of problems which are not easy to address. WE have to work with with a largely unstable Afghanistan on our WEST; WE have problems with India on our EAST due to a part of Kashmir under Indian captivity (IOK); WE have problems with Iran on our SOUTHWEST due to Iran being a mischievous entity; WE have a dysfunctional economy due to political instability and corruption, and WE have to knock on the door of IMF time and again to evade prospects of bankruptcy consequently; WE are now subject to international accountability process (FATF) as well. YOU should forgive Pakistani for being a bit edgy in these exceedingly trying times.

I assure you that WE have not lost our sense of reason.

Let us consider following points for self-reflection:-

1. Chinese goods have flooded Pakistani markets to the point of overwhelming local industries, but did you see Pakistani complaining?

WE wholeheartedly welcome 'competition' but not at the expense of our economic interests. A country that does not have flourishing industries of its own, is bound to fail; I believe that YOU would not want Pakistan to fail. In relation, WE hope that China will help Pakistan in developing decent industrial capabilities under CPEC.

2. China have never dispatched its troops to help Pakistan in liberating IOK at any point in time, but did you see Pakistani complaining?

WE do not expect anybody to fight our war(s). In the same vein, it is unreasonable to expect Pakistan to be a 'gun for hire' for any party. Wars mostly bring death, destruction and misery to belligerents, and potential gains are usually limited. WE do not want to be 'easy to be used as tools by the West' or another party.

However, it is completely unrealistic to expect from Pakistan to hate WESTERN BLOC and/or to seek confrontation with the WESTERN BLOC to appease 'any' country. Pakistan risk isolation and ruin while undertaking this route. China have enjoyed excellent trade relations with much of the world through the years but Pakistan should not? In fact, Pakistan can play a role in diffusing tensions between US and China much like in the past (in the 1960s).

Nevertheless, should conditions worsen for China in its ongoing COLD WAR with USA, you can count on Pakistan to not undermine China in any way or form. WE will continue to value and honor our friendly ties with China in the foreseeable future. WE will do our best to protect our interests including CPEC for indefinite period.

Lastly, people are likely to express their concerns over 'questionable' treatment of Muslims in the Xinjiang province under the banner of human rights and/or Islamic brotherhood but nobody is advocating declaring WAR on China over this matter, because what happens in China is an internal matter of China in the end. I believe that these concerns will fade when Xinjiang will be back to normal. Still, if you dislike these views, you can simply ignore them (you will spare yourself lot of headache in this manner).

Emphasis mine. Chinese should learn to cope with views that might not align with their own. You cannot expect much of the world to toe the line of the Chinese state on every matter. Do not let some online views cloud your judgement. Be pragmatic, and try to have a deeper understanding of parts of the world as well as viewpoints that are foreign to you.

I hope that majority of Chinese will continue to perceive Pakistan in a positive light. Wish you all the best in your endeavors.

@Beast
@Deino
@waz
@Oscar

 

[niao78]

This alliance makes no sense to india.
Ideologically Indians and Chinese are more closer than americans.
We like and hate the same things.
If it weren't for Chinese support of Pakistan.. China India relationship would have taken asia to next level.

We have tradition of anything which is with Pakistan is against us. I am not pro China but we could have co exist much better than current situation.
India China relationship are based on Pakistan China relationship.

 

[war&peace]

Are these types of comments really appropriate or helpful? Why do you antagonize, rather than explain your disagreement in a rational tone that just pushes our allies away.

We should disagree but in a rational and constructive way.

He is an Islamophobe and anti-Pakistan loser and fallen from the grace irrelevant old man who has no buyers of his crap on this crap. Thus his desperation and frustration knows no limit. That's an unbecoming of a man ...sad but can't be helped.. so we know how to deal with him. Good that he has exposed himself in a way that everyone can see his venom.

 

[war&peace]

Question is how long can Russia-China maintain thos marriage of convenience alliance if possible

Russia and China will stay friends until the USA vanishes...which is not going to happen in near future

You know exactly Jack $hit son.

What is he talking about?