US Government vs Congress: Sale of F16s to Pakistan

[Armstrong]

Bhook mein Chane bhi Badam Lagte hain (Even peanuts taste like almonds when one is hungry)

What kind of a proverb is that ? Peanuts are way...way better than Almonds !

Aur Chaneiii kubb seh Peanuts ho gaiii ?

 

[Spectre]

Still better than starving, right?

I think that's one of the points, the other being biting as much as one can chew

 

[VCheng]

What kind of a proverb is that ? Peanuts are way...way better than Almonds !

The actual idiom that applies to this thread is "champagne tastes on a beer budget" and the problems caused by it.

I think that's one of the points, the other being biting as much as one can chew

Please see above.

 

[Spectre]

What kind of a proverb is that ? Peanuts are way...way better than Almonds !

Aur Chaneiii kubb seh Peanuts ho gaiii ?

It's a Hindi one, doesn't translate well I guess.. I for one am allergic to peanuts.

Please see above.

All ill will aside, I appreciate the security needs of Pakistan and the losses suffered by it (irrespective of differences in opinion over the root cause). I also agree that Pakistan needs global help and the global community needs a stable Pakistan. How best to achieve that is obvious but for that one needs to remove the blinkers.

 

[VCheng]

It's a Hindi one, doesn't translate well I guess.. I for one am allergic to peanuts.



All ill will aside, I appreciate the security needs of Pakistan and the losses suffered by it (irrespective of differences in opinion over the root cause). I also agree that Pakistan needs global help and the global community needs a stable Pakistan. How best to achieve that is obvious but for that one needs to remove the blinkers.

Removing the blinkers can work only if the eyes underneath are opened as well.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

All ill will aside, I appreciate the security needs of Pakistan and the losses suffered by it (irrespective of differences in opinion over the root cause). I also agree that Pakistan needs global help and the global community needs a stable Pakistan. How best to achieve that is obvious but for that one needs to remove the blinkers.

So Americans should keep financing Pakistan and expect only NEGATIVE
results in Afghanistan

Ever heard of Haqqani network and Afghan Taliban

 

[Spectre]

Removing the blinkers can work only if the eyes underneath are opened as well.

Anyway this for Pakistanis to decide. I being an Indian and you being an expat can only presume and assume.

So Americans should keep financing Pakistan and expect only NEGATIVE
results in Afghanistan

Ever heard of Haqqani network and Afghan Taliban

What did Americans achieve really in Afganishtan? It's not like Pakistan put a gun to their heads did they? They knew the game being played and went along with it. 9/11 needed an example to be made of Al Qaeda and Taliban. That was the purpose of Afghan campaign.

The American public needed to see the tanks rolling, jets zooming, arty thundering and they got the whole dog and pony show. I dont think Americans seriously care what happens to us primitive S. Asians. Only thing which scares them yellow are the Pakistani nukes and for that they will give Pakistan the moon if it wants.

 

[alimobin memon]

invest on aesa and other areas for jf17

 

[nana41]

Well, now that the lines have been drawn, it would be interesting indeed to see what happens and which side gets more of their own demands. Perhaps Afridi will get a private escort to the airport just like Raymond Davis did after all the angst is vented.

Raymond Davis unlike Afridi was under the jurisdiction of Corrupt Govt. of Punjab.ISI might, just might provide a different sort of escort ?.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Anyway this for Pakistanis to decide. I being an Indian and you being an expat can only presume and assume.



What did Americans achieve really in Afganishtan? It's not like Pakistan put a gun to their heads did they? They knew the game being played and went along with it. 9/11 needed an example to be made of Al Qaeda and Taliban. That was the purpose of Afghan campaign.

The American public needed to see the tanks rolling, jets zooming, arty thundering and they got the whole dog and pony show. I dont think Americans seriously care what happens to us primitive S. Asians. Only thing which scares them yellow are the Pakistani nukes and for that they will give Pakistan the moon if it wants.

America did the right thing by invading Afghanistan

And How do all the outlaws of the world namely AL qaeda; Taliban ; ISIS
etc etc get settled in Afghanistan

What prevents Afghanistan from becoming a normal country

Are Afghan civilians not Humans

So why should Afghanistan be HANDED over to Afghan Taliban
AND their masters

It is a good thing that US will remain in Afghanistan for ever

That will bring to light the EXACT reasons why peace is Not coming to Afghanistan

Otherwise Afghanistan would have been a forgotten chapter like
Somalia or Ethiopia

 

[Hyperion]

LOL, they........ (the US) were worried about Haqqani's........ till yesterday...... wait and see new entrants into spring offensive.......... I bet it's gonna be interesting...........

 

[Spectre]

LOL, they........ (the US) were worried about Haqqani's........ till yesterday...... wait and see new entrants into spring offensive.......... I bet it's gonna be interesting...........

What would be interesting is Taliban and TTP destroy themselves or atleast weaken each other so much so that runt of the litter that is Afghan army can finish them off.

 

[shahmmd]

pakistan have to buy from china they are more cheap and reliable fighter jet then F16, and they need to pay the amount in 16years for 10 fighter jet

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Then invest the 300 million into the JF-17 program to achieve all that, and more. Problem solved!

The development work of JF 17 is NOT held up by Financial reasons

Money is not a problem ; The problem is technological constraints and challenges
that come with a small plane

The limitations of small planes like JF 17 and Indian Tejas
is because of their small engines

You want everything in one plane but the Size and Weight of the plane
cannot exceed a certain limit

 

[Hyperion]

Yara, this much, I BET, you'd also agree with me that ANA can't even fight me or my extended family, let alone those TTP and Talibanese barbarians.............

that runt of the litter that is Afghan army can finish them off.