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US missile strike kills four in North Waziristan

AP, Yesterday

DERA ISMAIL KHAN: Pakistani intelligence officials say a suspected US missile strike has killed four alleged militants near the Afghan border.

The officials say the missiles fired from an unmanned drone hit a car Tuesday in Kutab Khel village near Miram Shah, the main town in the North Waziristan tribal area. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media.

The officials say the area has a mix of Afghan and Pakistani Taliban fighters, as well as other foreign militants.

US missile strike kills four in North Waziristan | Provinces | DAWN.COM

4 militants slain in Pakistan drone strikes

(CNN) -- A drone strike in Pakistan's tribal region killed four militants Tuesday, two Pakistani intelligence officials said.

The incident occurred in the Mirah Shah area of North Waziristan when two missiles were fired at a militant's vehicle.

The United States does not comment on suspected drone strikes. But it is the only country in the region known to have the ability to launch missiles from drones, which are controlled remotely.

This comes a day after a drone strike in South Waziristan killed six alleged militants.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/08/02/pakistan.drone.attack/
 
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U.S. drone strike kills 21 in northwest Pakistan

PESHAWAR, Pakistan | Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:47am EDT

(Reuters) - A U.S. drone strike killed at least 21 suspected militants in Pakistan's North Waziristan region Wednesday, officials said, just days after Pakistan called for "clear terms of engagement" in the U.S.-Pakistan relationship.

Among those targeted in the attack on a house 3 km (2 miles) east of the main town of Miranshah were members of the Haqqani network responsible for the worsening insurgency in eastern Afghanistan, and foreign militants.

"The dead included local Taliban as well as some Arabs and Uzbek nationals," an intelligence official in North Waziristan said, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

It was the largest strike since July 12, when U.S. drones killed 48 suspected militants in North Waziristan.

Some Afghan insurgents belonging to the Haqqani network, a major militant fighting U.S.-led foreign forces in Afghanistan, were among the dead in Wednesday's strike, a Pakistani intelligence official said.

It was not immediately known if any high-profile militants were among the dead. Militants often dispute official account of such strikes.

Initial reports said five militants were killed in the attack but officials said the toll had gone up to 21 after more bodies were found from the rubble of the house.

U.S. drone strike kills 21 in northwest Pakistan | Reuters
 
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Drone kills four militants in Pakistan: officials

(AFP) – 2 hours ago

MIRANSHAH, Pakistan — A US drone strike in a Pakistani tribal area considered home to the most dangerous enemy of American troops in eastern Afghanistan killed at least four militants, according to officials.

The unmanned aircraft on Tuesday fired two missiles, hitting a compound and a vehicle parked outside it in Miranshah, the main town of North Waziristan tribal district, a senior security official told AFP.

"At least four militants were killed," the official said, adding that two others were also wounded. Another security official and an intelligence official confirmed the attack and casualties.

Washington has called Pakistan's semi-autonomous northwest tribal region the global headquarters of Al-Qaeda, where Taliban and other Al-Qaeda-linked networks have rear bases in the 10-year war in Afghanistan.

The identity of the militants was not immediately clear, officials said.

The missiles struck in the main town close to a girls school before dawn as people were starting their Ramadan fast, an AFP reporter, close to the destroyed compound, said.

Militants immediately cordoned off the compound and were busy removing debris, he said.


AFP: Drone kills four militants in Pakistan: officials


Again, the militants control the scene, not the GoP. So any reports of "innocent" casualties cannot be verified.
 
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this bullshitt thread must be closed and removed, because guys are just posting news about pakistanis being killed for their egos by stupid drone attacks seeing the inability of our govt to deal with them, and these posters celebrating our pakistani deaths
 
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this bullshitt thread must be closed and removed, because guys are just posting news about pakistanis being killed for their egos by stupid drone attacks seeing the inability of our govt to deal with them, and these posters celebrating our pakistani deaths

This thread does not celebrate the deaths of Pakistanis. And it has nothing to do with my ego. That is just plain stupid. How do you know that any who were killed were Pakistanis and not Afghans?
 
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These are the great moral values bama talks about when he comes on stage?killing women and children?

Your soldiers men and women were playing sex games with poor iraqi's in abu gharib while your commander in chief was lecturing the world on great american values..

cool story bro
 
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This thread does not celebrate the deaths of Pakistanis. And it has nothing to do with my ego. That is just plain stupid. How do you know that any who were killed were Pakistanis and not Afghans?

how do u know those who were killed were afghans and not Pakistanis...and even if they were afghans your war crimes still stand equally on same footing...voilating sovereignity of a sovereign country and killing women and children.
 
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This thread does not celebrate the deaths of Pakistanis. And it has nothing to do with my ego. That is just plain stupid. How do you know that any who were killed were Pakistanis and not Afghans?

And how do you know that they were afghans and not pakistanis???
 
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MIRANSHAH: A US drone strike killed at least four people on Tuesday in North Waziristan, Geo News reported.

The unmanned aircraft fired two missiles, hitting a compound and a vehicle parked outside it in Miranshah, the main town of North Waziristan tribal district, resulting four people including a child and two women were killed.

The missiles struck in the main town close to a girls school before dawn as people were starting their Ramazan fast.

The drones were still hovering overhead in the area creating panic among the residents.

Source: GEO.TV (US drone strike kills four in North Waziristan - GEO.tv) -

P.S: STUPID BLIND PEOPLE WHO CLAIM NO PAKISTANIS OR INNOCENTS DIE IN THESE DRONES.. I PRAY TO GOD TO GIVE YOU "AQAL", SOME EYES, AND A HEART

P.S.S There is an exhibition going on in London, which shows COUNTLESS photos (whatever was able to get out, since NO JOURNALIST are allowed by ARMY) of INNOCENT victims, men, women and CHILDREN.. all killed mercilessly and illegally in Pakistani allowed/CIA conducted drone strikes
 
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Internet jihadist thought killed in Predator strike in Waziristan

By Bill Roggio, August 16, 2011

An Internet jihadist who traveled to Pakistan's tribal areas to fight with al Qaeda-linked terror groups is thought to have been killed in a US Predator airstrike. Also, a prominent member of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan is reported to have wounded in another Predator strike in Pakistan's tribal areas.

A jihadist forum member recently posted that Hafeed Salahuddin was killed along with "a small group of his colleagues" in the Waziristan region of Pakistan, according to the message that was translated by the SITE Intelligence Group. Although the message is not an official martyrdom statement released by a terrorist group, jihadists often use the al Qaeda-linked forums to announce the deaths of lesser-known members of the terror groups.

"With content hearts we received the news of the martyrdom of our brother Hafeed Salahuddin, the well-known writer in the jihadi forums, and a small group of his colleagues, in an American airstrike over Waziristan," the statement said.

SITE reported that in May, a jihadist named Muhib Hafeed Salahuddin "posted a message from 'Sheikh Hafeed Salahuddin' reacting to the death of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and warning US President Barack Obama that the 'next round' in the conflict will be more complex and deadly."

The statement announcing Salahuddin's death did not say when or where he was killed, nor did it state the name of the terror group he fought with. The US has carried out 47 Predator airstrikes in Pakistan's tribal areas this year; all but two have taken place in the tribal agencies of North and South Waziristan.

In another unconfirmed report, a well-known German Internet jihadist is said to have been wounded in a US Predator strike in Pakistan's tribal areas.

"A source affiliated with the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan had previously announced that Abu Adam from Jundullah Media was seriously injured," according to a statement by Gazavat Media, a website that caters to Turkish jihadists. The statement was translated by the SITE Intelligence Group.

"According to the unconfirmed report, Abu Adam may have been wounded in a drone strike," the statement continued. "The source that spoke to Gazavat Media said that drone (unmanned plane) strikes had increased very much recently. In another drone strike carried out in the past weeks, the movement had lost an important commander."

The report did not indicate when or where Abu Adam was wounded.

Abu Adam is the nom de guerre of Mounir Chouka, a German citizen who fights with the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan in Pakistan and is a senior member of Jundallah Media, the IMU's media production arm. Abu Adam and his brother, Abu Ibrahim (Yassin Chouka), are prolific posters on the jihadist forums. In January, Abu Adam announced the death of senior IMU and al Qaeda leader Bekkay Harrach. Abu Adam also provided voice-overs in a tape released in January that praised slain IMU terrorists from across the globe. In February, Abu Ibrahim released a report that described his travels from Europe to Pakistan, which included a stop in Yemen and several meetings with Anwar al Awlaki, the wanted American-born terrorist who serves as a senior ideologue and operational commander for al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

Internet jihadist killed in Predator strike in Waziristan - The Long War Journal
 
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MIRANSHAH: A US drone strike killed at least four people on Tuesday in North Waziristan, Geo News reported.

The unmanned aircraft fired two missiles, hitting a compound and a vehicle parked outside it in Miranshah, the main town of North Waziristan tribal district, resulting four people including a child and two women were killed.

The missiles struck in the main town close to a girls school before dawn as people were starting their Ramazan fast.

The drones were still hovering overhead in the area creating panic among the residents.

Source: GEO.TV (US drone strike kills four in North Waziristan - GEO.tv) -

P.S: STUPID BLIND PEOPLE WHO CLAIM NO PAKISTANIS OR INNOCENTS DIE IN THESE DRONES.. I PRAY TO GOD TO GIVE YOU "AQAL", SOME EYES, AND A HEART

P.S.S There is an exhibition going on in London, which shows COUNTLESS photos (whatever was able to get out, since NO JOURNALIST are allowed by ARMY) of INNOCENT victims, men, women and CHILDREN.. all killed mercilessly and illegally in Pakistani allowed/CIA conducted drone strikes

we can just wait and see them being killed because our government has become shameless for american dollars, there is no logic for these killings except that americans some how wanna give excuse for their lose in afghanistan in return for poor pakistani blood

now even osama has been killed we dont know what america is doing in pakistan and afghanistan, it proves again and again american goal was not hunting down osama but a lot else even america goes bankrupt we dont know what america is persuing after in afghanistan??
 
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we dont know what america is persuing after in afghanistan??

I don't know. It is a great mystery. Probably America wants Afghanistan's minerals. There must be some reason that America is sending so many of its young people to die there. Maybe America just likes having so many of its soldiers return with missing arms and legs?? You should puzzle over this until you come up with some logical reason for what America is doing in Afghanistan .....
 
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In Praise of Drones

The case for using armed unmanned aerial vehicles in Pakistan is stronger than ever.

By SADANAND DHUME

Like a late night rerun of a once popular TV show, the debate about the U.S. use of armed drones in Pakistan's tribal areas refuses to fade away.

Last week, the London-based not-for-profit Bureau of Investigative Journalism published a series of articles accusing the U.S. of covering up numerous civilian casualties over the past year. And in a New York Times op-ed on Sunday, retired Admiral Dennis Blair, President Barack Obama's former director of national intelligence, declared that America's drone campaign "is eroding our influence and damaging our ability to work with Pakistan to achieve other important security objectives like eliminating Taliban sanctuaries, encouraging Indian-Pakistani dialogue, and making Pakistan's nuclear arsenal more secure."

Critics of the officially secret program have been wrong since its inception in 2004. Drones represent the most discerning—and therefore most moral—form of aerial warfare in human history. In Pakistan, they keep terrorists on the run. They also give policy makers in Washington a handy stick to wield against an ostensible ally that has repeatedly shown that it doesn't respond to carrots alone.

But first the criticism: According to the Bureau's journalists, the drone campaign has killed at least 45 civilians in Pakistan over the past year. This flatly contradicts a claim in a June speech by top Obama counter-terrorism advisor John Brennan of drones not causing "a single collateral death" since last August. For some critics, Predator and Reaper drones—the two most common varieties—conjure up images of sinister remote-controlled robots let loose to spread mayhem. Others equate drone strikes with illegal assassinations.

Then there's the realpolitik argument. Drones allegedly create day-to-day friction in U.S.-Pakistan relations that get in the way of Washington pursuing broader economic and political objectives in the country. Without the bad blood they cause, as Adm. Blair suggests, ties between Washington and Islamabad would be free to flourish.

To be fair, neither argument can be casually dismissed. The claim of zero collateral deaths in a land where militants often live with their families, or cheek-by-jowl with other civilians, appears implausible on the face of it. The strikes—53 so far this year—tend to draw street protests and harsh criticism from the Pakistani press. Both Pakistan's parliament and the provincial assembly in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province have passed resolutions calling for their end.

On closer examination, however, this case collapses. According to U.S. government officials quoted in the Times, the Bureau's reportage is unreliable. To begin with, Pakistani authorities, and the local reporters they hold sway over, have an incentive to fabricate or exaggerate casualty figures. That the reports rely, at least in part, on information provided by a Pakistani lawyer who publicly outed the CIA's undercover station chief last year doesn't help their credibility either.

Though even a single civilian casualty ought not to be taken lightly, the focus on alleged collateral damage distorts the essence of the drone program. In reality, technology allows highly trained operators to observe targets on the ground for as much as 72 hours in advance. Software engineers typically model the blast radius for a missile or bomb strike. Lawyers weigh in on which laws apply and entire categories of potential targets—including mosques, hospitals and schools—are almost always off bounds.

All these procedures serve one overriding purpose: to protect innocent civilian life. The New America Foundation's database of strikes shows it's working. This year civilians made up only about 8% of the 440 (at most) people killed in drone strikes in Pakistan down from about 30% two years ago. As for affecting U.S. popularity on the ground, according to the Pew Global Attitudes survey, the U.S. favorability rating—long battered by conspiracy theories and an anti-American media—hovers at about 12%, almost exactly where it stood before the program's advent seven years ago.

At the same time, the program also serves a larger purpose. One of Washington's most pressing objectives in Pakistan is to end the use of its territory for attacks on NATO forces in Afghanistan. Another is to wean the country off its historic support for terrorist groups operating in Afghanistan, India and beyond. It cannot achieve either without the help of the Pakistani army and its notorious spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence.

But, riddled with jihadist sympathizers, and with a two-decade old belief in its mission to dominate Afghanistan and bleed India, the Pakistani army has so far shown little inclination to do much more than the bare minimum. The violently anti-American Haqqani network remains comfortably ensconced in North Waziristan near the Afghan border. And terrorists such as Lashkar-e-Taiba founder Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, whose group was behind the 2008 Mumbai attacks that killed 166 people, including six Americans, routinely give inflammatory speeches to adoring crowds.

Against this backdrop, drones offer a practical way to eliminate some terrorists (such as al Qaeda's Ilyas Kashmiri, killed in a strike in June) and keep others on the move. They also raise the incentives for the Pakistani military to crackdown on terrorism on its soil, or else deal with the social unrest unleashed by the strikes. Indeed, instead of cutting back on drones, the U.S. should threaten to ratchet up their use should the army and ISI fail to crack down on anti-NATO forces in Afghanistan. Upward of $20 billion in aid over the past decade has not done enough to alter Islamabad's behavior. A carefully calibrated drone strategy, backed by resolve to stay the course in Afghanistan, may produce better results.

Mr. Dhume is a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, and a columnist for WSJ.com.

Sadanand Dhume: In Praise of Drones - WSJ.com
 
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I don't know. It is a great mystery. Probably America wants Afghanistan's minerals. There must be some reason that America is sending so many of its young people to die there. Maybe America just likes having so many of its soldiers return with missing arms and legs?? You should puzzle over this until you come up with some logical reason for what America is doing in Afghanistan .....

I am as illeterate as they(Pakistanis) come....look i can't even spell illiterate...Please educate me.
 
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I don't know. It is a great mystery. Probably America wants Afghanistan's minerals. There must be some reason that America is sending so many of its young people to die there. Maybe America just likes having so many of its soldiers return with missing arms and legs?? You should puzzle over this until you come up with some logical reason for what America is doing in Afghanistan .....

Wow. What a logic. So If you apply the same logic, the Talibans must have a bigger/better reason
 
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