US Deputy secretary of Defence Visiting Pakistan for 5days

[MH.Yang]

Hi. China not interested in India's land? hahaha. Am i living in parallel universe? Anyway i understand your point. I want China to finish Indian story once and for all.

Well, please tell me. What can China get from Indian land at such a huge cost?

 

[mingle]

5 days or 5 hours? 5 days is too long.

I heard on TV and guy is right not a YouTuber

 

[Falconless]

Well, please tell me. What can China get from Indian land at such a huge cost?

Anday Wala Burger.

Just ignore these war mongering teenagers, all they can do is cry for a war but when it comes they’ll all cry like those Americans that were sent to Vietnam.

Coming soon!: khush Kismat Beta

 

[mingle]

Looks like you have got your facts wrong. He isnt the deputy defence secretary. He is a nobody:

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It is possible Chris Mayers leads Congress delegation but Deputy secretary of Defence also coming according to him its very big delegation I heard on TV by very senior jurno and very old one

 

[Arsalan345]

Well, please tell me. What can China get from Indian land at such a huge cost?

I don't know but I think China hates United states and they are trying to punish India to humiliate united states. Probably expansion policy. I know China has this expansion policy. Probably for QUAD. China and Russia, both see QUAD, as a threat to their own existence. India, a member of QUAD, is pushed by united states to fight against China. These are games but at the end of the day, you will expand. India no match for China.

 

[MH.Yang]

I don't know but I think China hates United states and they are trying to punish India to humiliate united states. Probably expansion policy. I know China has this expansion policy. Probably for QUAD. China and Russia, both see QUAD, as a threat to their own existence. India, a member of QUAD, is pushed by united states to fight against China. These are games but at the end of the day, you will expand. India no match for China.

The Chinese just hate the now-USA, not always. We worked with the USA against the Soviet Union, and we were also a major ally of WW2. Yes, the Korean War broke out between China and the USA, but neither China nor USA is a loser, this war cannot bring hatred.
We hate the USA now because we have a conflict of interest with the USA. The USA fears that China will seize their hegemony, and China needs to enter the high-tech industry to protect its economic status. There is no unforgivable hatred between China and the USA.
The disgust between China and USA comes from interests. So the two countries can give up disgust because of their interests, not give up interests because of their disgust.
But the Chinese don't hate Indians. They just don't care about India. Because the conflict between China and India is always India have a bad luck, not China.
Therefore, the Chinese may interrupt the Indian hand extended to CEPC, but the Chinese will not spend a huge price to occupy the whole India for inexplicable "hatred".

 

[MH.Yang]

Probably expansion policy. I know China has this expansion policy.

Contrary to your imagination. In fact, China is facing an aging population and a sharp decline in population growth. Many cities in China are facing negative population growth, so the Chinese are not interested in expansion policies. But Taiwan is an exception, I can explain it to you.


This is how China deals with territorial issues:

1. The ruling legitimacy of PRC comes from the foundation and development of Sun Yat Sen's three people's principles, while Sun Yat Sen's ruling legitimacy comes from the abdication and grant of the emperor of the Qing Dynasty. Therefore, the PRC's territory came from the inheritance of the territory of the Qing Dynasty. Therefore, we declare ownership according to the map of the Qing Dynasty.

2. If a certain territory is the territory of the Qing Dynasty, the PRC has the right of inheritance. However, the PRC will not necessarily require the rule of this territory. We will operate according to its actual situation.

3. If this is the territory of Han people, such as Taiwan. Then there will be no room for compromise. According to the Han tradition, the territory of the Han people must be unified, and the Han people can only have a legitimate government. Any country can choose to recognize the Beijing government or the Taipei government, but it is not allowed to recognize both governments at the same time. Han people can accept the rule of Beijing government or Taipei government, but if there are two governments at the same time, the war will not stop. This is the fundamental reason why all previous dynasties of China have moved from division to reunification.
PRC is only a dynasty in the history of Chinese civilization. One day, the CCP regime will perish, just like the previous dynasties. Therefore, CCP has no right to abandon the unification tradition of the Han nationality.
It cannot be a precedent for undermining a civilization tradition of thousands of years. If the CCP dares to do so, it will no longer be the legal regime of the Han people.

4. If it is a minority territory, the PRC will consider the support of the local people. If the local people support the PRC, the PRC will establish autonomous regions to rule and give autonomy to laws and taxes (for example, Tibet, Xinjiang). If the local people do not support the PRC, the PRC will make them independent or join the country they like (for example, Mongolia, Badakhshan province of Afghanistan, gorno autonomous region of Tajikistan).
PS: different from the illusion of most Indians, most Tibetan people support the PRC because the PRC gives all Tibetan serfs freedom. Only a few serf owners fled to India. In Tibet, where the environment is bad, the PRC cannot rule without the support of the people.

About Southern Tibet, just like I said, if the local people support the PRC, we will establish the southern Tibet Autonomous Region. If not, we support their independence.
Aksai Chin is a no man's land. Ladakh is a disputed territory between China and Pakistan, not India. After India leaves, China is willing to negotiate with Pakistan to solve the Ladakh issue.
In fact, China only attaches importance to Ladakh, which is related to CEPC security, and southern Tibet is a bargaining chip that can be negotiated.

Do you know why China is so open to minority territories? Because China's historical experience tells us that it is a foolish act to forcibly rule the territory of ethnic minorities without the support of local people. That rule will eventually end because of endless guerrilla warfare.
If China forcibly occupies Indian territory, we will also face such a problem. So you think India's territory is gold, but we think it's a huge burden.

 

[Goritoes]

5 days? Kahen Islamabad mai move tu nai ho raha na Deputy Secretary ?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

They will discuss follow

1- We will use drones to bomb Afghanistan , can you help us?
2- We will use drones to bomb Afghanistan , if you can't help us?
3- Can you save our asses when shit will fly , do more?
4- We will bomb people in Afghanistan , not sure if it will be ISIS-K(year fancy name we came up with) or Taliban
5- World is in grave danger , new boogie man , do more for us?
6- If we f up with bombing , there will be angry people in Afghanistan like always but we don't want any involvement
7 - We will be routinely releasing fake twitter feed from various rouge entities in Afghanistan , don't get angry due to it
8- If we blame Pakistan for the mess , don't be worried it is just for our domestic audience , you know we love you!

 

[Thorough Pro]

Pakistan parliament should pass a law to break all military cooperation with the US as it has failed to fulfill its agreements with Pakistan. the only relationship would be in civilian and economic sectors. Since SIA was involved in attacking Pakistani territory, it should be put on a black list and cases registered against its officials for attacking Pakistan. Let them taste their own "democratic" medicine.

 

[TigerOfMysore]

Pakistan has never had a good relationship with the State department. Executive relationships have been a roller coaster of ups ad downs usually depending on whether a Democrat or a Republican got in office. Republicans being marginally better. The one steady relationship that Pakistan has had was with the Pentagon. That unfortunately has changed drastically since the WOT. Today Pakistani security establishment is no longer certain it has a partner in the Pentagon. The Presslar years, combined with the US WOT has created a massive distance between Pindi and Pentagon. Not sure if they'll be able to reduce this gap in the coming years. As Pakistan becomes less reliant on US hardware, and US training of Pakistani officer corp is significantly diminished, along with US military alignment with India opposition with China, it is very unlikely these two will come together. What is likely to happen is they'll stumble along a dysfunctional setup with neither side happy with the other, till a major fracture occurs eventually. Neither side wants to be the cause for this rupture but both are heading in that direction.

 

[SD 10]

According to sources Deputy secretary of Defence Chris Mayers will visit this week for 5days along High level delegation including CIA

whatever they discuss , none of that will benefit Pakistan, its only the American interests that will be talked about! Lets see how long the establishment keeps bending over!

 

[Imran Khan]

when state department failed now pentagon will try with some weapons offers

 

[ARMalik]

Throughout the History of Pakistan it is more than evident that at critical junctures of National Security either the Civilian Government or Pakistan's Military compromised on the National Security and Strategic interests of Pakistan. Example, Ayub Khan not attacking India in 1962 when India was attacked by China. PPP Selling out Sikh Kalistan movement during BB's reign, Musharaff joining the USA in 2001 for the disastrous 20 years of Terrorism in Pakistan. These are only a few examples, they are unfortunately many more where such people in Pakistan have sold off this country.

The point being, this visit of US Defense Sec is one of those critical moments in history where the Taliban have taken over and secured Pakistan's Western borders. IK is not going to compromise Pakistan's security by giving into US demands. But there is ONE PERSON I have SEVERE RESERVATIONS about and I believe this person MAY COMPROMISE with the US. This person is in ARMY. The reason I believe this is because HE HAS ON MANY OCCASIONS bypassed the Civilian Authority, and met with the US Officials against Protocols. The latest example is when he MET Wendy Sherman while IK refused to meet her. I am hoping that this ONE ARMY PERSON is not going to compromise like what Musharaf did in 2001 BUT I HAVE SEVERE RESERVATIONS about this person !!

 

[waz]

5 days, this just following that Sherman woman. I guess it’s not so “narrow” as they wanted it to be.
No where else to turn or go to it’s back to Pakistan.