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US an Arab allies begin airstrikes in Syria

NFZ should have been established at least two years ago, especially after Assad gassed people back in the day, but because Obama is in office i'm not sure if it actually happens.

United States is in dire need of strong president. Hillary 2016.
 
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we need an American president that can convince the house of Saud and the Jordanian king n Pissi to put their troops on the ground, this mission is impossible from the Air
 
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NFZ should have been established at least two years ago, especially after Assad gassed people back in the day, but because Obama is in office i'm not sure if it actually happens.

United States is in dire need of strong president. Hillary 2016.
it was most likely al qaeda aka fsa aka isis aka al nusra who were responsible, stinking jihadis, there are no good people in that fight, IS are just the worst of the lot, the rest stink just as bad.

it's bashar and Iran vs the savages, and fck hillary, she'll be worse that McCain, I'd like a Rand Paul or Ted Cruz in charge.
 
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we need an American president that can convince the house of Saud and the Jordanian king n Pissi to put their troops on the ground, this mission is impossible from the Air


No, it's true ? Really ? We (GCC) are so stupid ! Don't worry for us. :devil:


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Up to 15,000 Syrian rebels needed to retake eastern Syria -U.S. military


By Phil Stewart and Missy Ryan
WASHINGTON Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:16pm EDT

(Reuters) - A Western-backed opposition force of around 12,000 to 15,000 will be needed to retake areas of eastern Syria controlled by Islamic State militants, the top U.S military officer said on Friday, as the Pentagon outlined the first steps in a U.S.-led training program that could run several years.

The Pentagon said its assessment teams have already arrived in Saudi Arabia to help map out a U.S.-led program there expected to train more than 5,000 Western-backed opposition fighters in the first year.

The hope is that a well-organized and equipped moderate opposition force can take advantage of U.S.-led air strikes against Sunni fundamentalist fighters from the Islamic State who have taken huge swathes of Syria.

General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the U.S. military's Joint Chiefs of Staff, cautioned that 5,000 was only a start of a long process toward defeating the group.

"Five thousand has never been the end state ... Twelve to 15,000 is what we believe they would need to recapture lost territory in eastern Syria," Dempsey told a Pentagon news conference.

"We have to do it right, not fast."

Congress last week gave temporary approval to the Pentagon's plan to train members of Syria's moderate opposition. The plan is expected to cost $500 million in its first year.

Dempsey's spokesman told Reuters that the 12,000 to 15,000 estimate was developed assuming a two- to three-year time period to train the fighters.

Dempsey said that for the effort to be successful, the Western-backed Syrian opposition would not only need to develop leaders but also "a political structure into which they can hook and therefore be responsive to."

"And that's gonna take some time," he said.

Western-backed opponents of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad fear that the U.S. and Arab air campaign could play into Assad's hands and have been clamoring for heavier weaponry from Washington.

U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, speaking at the same news conference alongside Dempsey, assured there was no U.S. military coordination with Assad and that "nothing has changed about our position ... Assad has lost all legitimacy to govern."

Still, in a telling sign of the long road ahead, Hagel acknowledged the United States was still unable to say who the head of the Western-backed opposition would be.

"We don't have a head of it ... We're not gonna instruct them as to who their leaders are. They'll make their own decision," he said.

Speaking about the broader campaign against the Islamic State, Hagel cautioned after nearly a week of air strikes in Syria and more than a month of them in Iraq: "This will not be an easy or brief effort."

"We are at the beginning, not the end," he said.

(Reporting by Phil Stewart and Missy Ryan; Editing by Sandra Maler and Eric Beech)

Reuters

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Russia's Lavrov questions legality of U.S. airstrikes on Syria

By Michelle Nichols
UNITED NATIONS
Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:31pm EDT


(Reuters) - Russia questioned on Friday the legality of U.S. and Arab air strikes in Syria to target Islamic State militants because the action was taken without the approval and cooperation of Moscow's ally Damascus.

The United States, which has long called for the dismissal of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, began air and missile strikes on strongholds of Islamic State in Syria this week, backed up by some Gulf Arab allies. Washington forewarned Damascus of the action, but did not seek approval for it.

"We believe that any action taken globally, including use of force, to overcome terrorist threats should be done in accordance with international law," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly.

Lavrov said that approval was also needed of the country where the action was to take place.

"It's very important that such cooperation with Syrian authorities is established, even now that it's an accomplished fact," Lavrov said. "Excluding Syrian authorities from the struggle that is taking place on their territory not only goes against international law but undermines the efficiency of the effort."

The United States defended its strikes in Syria in a letter to the United Nations on Tuesday, saying it was justified under Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, which covers an individual or collective right to self-defense from armed attack.

The United States began bombing strongholds of Islamic State in Iraq last month after Baghdad requested help. The group has seized swathes of territory in Iraq and Syria, declared a caliphate in the heart of the Middle East and urged followers to attack citizens of various other countries.

President Barack Obama has sought to rally international support for a military coalition against the group. Lavrov said Russia believed all countries should be strengthened "to oppose threats to their security, including terrorist threats."

"We are fighting against terrorism consistently, constantly, not just when someone announces a coalition. It's not just some pop-up idea for us," Lavrov said. "We actively support countries in the region that are facing the threat and we have been doing so for a long time."

(Reporting by Michelle Nichols; Editing by Jason Szep and Grant McCool)

Reuters


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NFZ should have been established at least two years ago, especially after Assad gassed people back in the day, but because Obama is in office i'm not sure if it actually happens.
You are right about Syriens being gased because of Obama.Where you are wrong, is that you are pointing the finger at the wrong side. The one who used gas and the one who provided it are known. It isn't Assad and it isn't the SAA.

United States is in dire need of strong president. Hillary 2016.
She doesn't have a chance in hell to be elected. She may represent the Democratic side, but the next president won't be her. Benghazi will follow her like hepes. She is done!
 
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She doesn't have a chance in hell to be elected. She may represent the Democratic side, but the next president won't be her. Benghazi will follow her like hepes. She is done!

Who do you see in the Republican side that has the name recognition and high profile Hilary has? I think she has a very good chance of becoming the next President. Benghazi is not such a big deal in the US, as far as I can tell. Not enough to destroy her chance.
 
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wouldb be happy if the strikes target Assad regime too in addition to IS.
 
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Saturday, September 27, 2014
US airstrike kills Mavi Marmara "activist" in Syria

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The World Bulletin (Turkey) writes:

A Turkish aid worker who survived the Mavi Marmara incident in 2010 has been killed in a US-led air strike targeting ISIL positions in the Syrian city of Idlib, Turkish media has revealed.

40-year-old Yakup Bulent Alniak was in Syria to carry out aid work ahead of the Islamic Eid al-Adha feast, organizing the distribution of meat of Syria's needy.

Alniak, who in 2010 escaped unharmed when Israeli commandos raided IHH Humanitarian Relief's Gaza-bound Mavi Marmara aid flotilla, in which ten Turkish citizens were killed after being hit by live ammunition, had been in Syria for two months.

He leaves behind his wife and two children.​


Well, maybe he wasn't there exactly "to carry out aid work."

Other Turkish media say that he went to Syria to fight with the Syrian al-Qaeda offshoot the al-Nusra Front.

It seems that the supposedly peaceful IHH that sailed the Mavi Marmara is sending mujahadin to Syria to join the Sunni terror groups there.

Will they protest the US for killing their "aid worker"?

(h/t Rotter via Yenta Press)
 
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“Where It All Began”
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Over at Al Arabiya TV, Hisham Melhem continues his critique of Arab society and politics, seeking to explain how the Arab world came to be in the situation in which it now finds itself.

He highlights the point that there is no longer any real freedom of thought in the region. Would-be intellectuals are forced into extreme positions if they wish to stay out of jail or to stay alive.

He sharply notes that while the actions of the “outsider” may prove a useful political excuse for the current state of the Arab world, it is far from an adequate excuse. He contrasts the political fortunes of Egypt and India, both becoming independent in the same year, and finds that the Egyptians — for Egyptian reasons — has fallen far behind. He further contrasts Egypt with S. Korea. Both countries had essentially similar demographics and economies in 1960, but now, Egypt has only one-eighth of S. Korea’s GDP per capita. These disparities are not accidents of faith nor are they the result of foreign oppression or interference. The stories Arabs have been telling themselves are no longer believable and populations are no longer buying into the mythology. But solving the problems can’t even start until people can start talking about them, start exploring alternatives, without having to worry whether they’ll be alive tomorrow.


Who brought the Arabs to this nadir?
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Hisham Melhem

In recent weeks and months I tried in this space to critique an Arab political culture that continues to reproduce the values of patriarchy, mythmaking, conspiracy theories, sectarianism, autocracy and a political/cultural discourse that denies human agency and tolerates the persistence of the old order. The article in which I said that the ailing Arab body politic had created the ISIS cancer, and a subsequent article published in Politico Magazine generated a huge response and sparked debates on Twitter and the blogosphere.

The overwhelming response was positive, even though my analysis of Arab reality was bleak and my prognosis of the immediate future was negative. Yet, these articles were not a call for despair, far from it; they are a cris de Coeur for Arabs, particularly intellectuals, activists and opinion makers, to first recognize that they are in the main responsible for their tragic conditions, that they have to own their problems before they rely on their human agency to make the painful decisions needed to transcend their predicament. These articles should be viewed through the motto of the Italian Marxian philosopher Antonio Gramsci: “Pessimism of the spirit; optimism of the will.” Pessimism of the will, means that you see and analyze the world as it is not as you wish it to be, but for this pessimism not to be fatal, it should be underpinned by the optimism of the will, to face challenges, and overcome adversity by relying on human agency.

A legacy of autocracy and fear
The negative reaction to the two controversial articles ranged from the lunatic and racist fringe which refuses to recognize the immense cultural and civilizational contributions of Arabs and Muslims, to the juvenile left that sees Arab self-criticism as self-flagellation because it does not blame the U.S. or Israel for ALL Arab ills. In my articles I said that no one paradigm could explain the state disintegration, social fragmentation and the civil wars ranging in a number of Arab societies, nor one can reduce the failure of various political ideologies that dominated the Arab world in the last century to one overarching reason be it economic, political, social or cultural. That was my way of criticizing the tendency of many scholars to always look for one paradigm, or a certain model, or one encompassing theory to explain very complex problems that cannot be reduced to one neat interpretation.

Arab states have had more than their share of military dictators who enforced their absolute authority and decimated their societies
Hisham Melhem
Those majority of Arab societies currently going through violent convulsions or wrenching “transitions” : Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Bahrain and Lebanon have reached their nadir because of multiplicity of reasons ranging from repressive autocracy, alliances between predatory political elites, corrupt mercantile classes, and economic monopolies, reactionary interpretations of Islam, as reflected in the visions and practices of Islamists movements (in varying degrees) chauvinistic or hyper nationalisms and yes a cultural inheritance, rooted in religious conservatism that produces values of ignorance, fatalism, dependency and fear of authority. Some Arab countries, even decades after their independence are still struggling with their identities, particularly heterogeneous countries like Iraq and Algeria. Even, the mostly homogenous Egypt was struggling with issues of identity and cultural and political orientation, particularly during the brief rule of the Muslim Brotherhood. These cultural factors are usually not always given their weight by political scientist and historians. Of course, western military interventions, from the British-French-Israeli attack on Egypt in 1956 to the debilitating Arab-Israeli wars, to the first Gulf war in 1991, to the disastrous U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 have contributed significantly to the current impasse.

The Arabs and the rest
But the Arabs were not the only victims of colonialism, and with the exception of Algeria which gained its independence from France after a savage war, colonialism in the Arab world was not as devastating as it was in Africa. Egypt and India were colonized by the same power and gained sovereignty after the Second World War. And both are plagued with demographic overweight. But for most of its independent life Egypt was ruled by a strong military leader, while India maintained its democratic rule – strained at times- even when its military achieved victories in wars with Pakistan and it managed difficult political transitions after the assassinations of some of its elected leaders. India, despite its economic and social inequalities, produces science and knowledge in its universities and in Bangalore, its high technology capital.

There are no such universities in Egypt. In 1960 the GDP per capita for South Korea and Egypt were almost equal, $155 and $149 respectively and their populations were practically identical, 25 million and 27 million respectively. By 2012 the gap is frightening. The GDP per capita in South Korea has reached $16,684 with a population of 50 million. In comparison, Egypt’s GDP per capita has grown only to $1,976, and its population has tripled to 82 million. What went wrong in Egypt and what went right in South Korea is a tale of political will and good and bad governance. South Korea invested heavily in education and in its corporations and revolutionized industrial productivity by empowering women and incorporating them in the labor force. By contrast Egypt did not improve the quality of its educational system, and invested heavily in non-competitive industries.

Not all autocrats are alike
Arab states have had more than their share of military dictators who enforced their absolute authority and decimated their societies and ruined their economies even in those countries that enjoyed considerable hydrocarbon deposits such as Iraq, Libya and Algeria. They ruled in the name of Arab Nationalism and they manipulated religious authorities and symbols (Saddam Hussein was the most outrageous offender in this regard), while exploiting sectarian, ethnic and tribal fissures.

Others such as the Assads in Syria and Ali Abdallah Saleh in Yemen adopted the same ways. The military rulers and autocrats of Asia, such as Park Chung-hee of South Korea and Lee Kuan Yew, of Singapore, who are credited with putting their countries on a trajectory of industrialization and wealth, look very benign when compared with Arab despots like Hussein whose wars and invasions caused the death of at least half a million people, or the Assads, who are responsible for the death of more than a quarter of a million people. Even the awful depredations of Augusto Pinochet, the dictator of Chile, pale in comparison with the bloody deeds of his Arab contemporaries. At least Pinochet did not wreck the Chilean economy and some credit him with turning Chile into a major economic power in Latin America.

There is one benign Arab autocrat whose legacy in part explains why Tunisia, of all the countries that went through an uprising is on the path of good governance. Tunisia’s president Habib Bourguiba, abolished polygamy and enacted a series of laws and secular reforms in 1956, giving women the right to vote and access to higher education, the right to file for divorce, and access to employment opportunities. Modern Tunisia has maintained a secular tradition and a polity more tolerant than its neighbors. Bourguiba benefited from Tunisia’s legacy of reform which goes back to the reign of the reformer Khayr al-Din Pasha al-Tunisi in the 1870’s. Tunisia was a trail-blazer when it became the first Arab country to outlaw slavery in 1846, one year before Sweden and, astonishingly 17 years before the United States. This legacy of secularism and empowering women is one of the reasons why Islamists were kept at bay and prevented from monopolizing political power after the overthrow of President Bin Ali.

Self-criticism after defeats and disasters
After the 1967 defeat, Beirut became the center of a vibrant no holds barred debate among Arab intellectuals about the meanings and the reasons for the unimaginable disaster that befell the Arab world at the hands of Israel. Many scholars, from different political and ideological orientations published books and articles and held open and blunt discussions. The famed Syrian Poet Adonis, published his pioneering Journal Mawaqif which became the medium for soul searching, and critical introspection and analysis about the factors, assumptions, values and practices that led to the calamity. One seminal book was Self Criticism After the Defeat (1968) by the renounced Syrian philosopher Sadik al-Azm. The book was a milestone in modern Arab intellectual history and Azm did not spare any political taboos, when he deconstructed the many glaring failures of Arab society, politics and culture.

It became clear that the defeat was not only military, but political and cultural. The defeat was symptomatic of the failure of Arab regimes in creating viable modern, democratic polities free of outmoded political and religious dogmas. A year later, Azm published another devastating tome Critique of Religious Thought which landed him briefly in jail. The book contained a merciless critique of reactionary religious thoughts and how Arab states used religious authorities to manipulate their peoples. The Lebanese government failed in its attempt to charge Al-Azm of inciting sectarianism or banning the book.

In the following years, with the devastation of the civil wars of Lebanon, the Syrian and Israeli occupations, and the rise of sectarianism, Beirut began to lose its liberalism and openness. After Khomeini’s fatwa against Salman Rushdi’s book The Satanic Verses , Al-Azm published another critical book titled The Mentality of Prohibition. But this time, the book was sold clandestinely in Beirut.

A Faustian deal
During the heyday of Arab Nationalism, many Arab intellectuals entered into a Faustian deal with the custodians of power in their world. They accepted a deal in which they will not agitate for freedom and democracy, until the Nationalist fought their supposedly historic battles with the forces of Arab reaction, Israeli usurpation and Western imperialism. All the battles were lost, and with them the hopes of freedom and democracy.

Today, the world of millions of Arabs is collapsing; whole societies are consumed by the flames of sectarianism, political fragmentation and economic disenfranchisement. The indefatigable Sadik Al-Azm is still at it, always probing and always deconstructing. He is now part of a smaller minority of such intellectuals, living and writing and publishing mostly in the west. And unless Arab intellectuals and activists engage in a no holds barred debates similar to what happened in Beirut after 1967, in which all their political, cultural and religious inheritance is put to critical inquiry, the Arabs will continue to roam endlessly in a political wilderness of their own making. But if you are looking now for a vibrant debate, about what ails the Arab world today, and if you are searching for a liberal open Arab city for Intellectuals to engage in critical introspection, you will be searching in vain.

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Hisham Melhem is the bureau chief of Al Arabiya News Channel in Washington, DC. Melhem has interviewed many American and international public figures, including Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush, Secretaries of State Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen, among others. Melhem speaks regularly at college campuses, think tanks and interest groups on U.S.-Arab relations, political Islam, intra-Arab relations, Arab-Israeli issues, media in the Arab World, Arab images in American media , U.S. public policies and other related topics. He is also the correspondent for Annahar, the leading Lebanese daily. For four years he hosted "Across the Ocean," a weekly current affairs program on U.S.-Arab relations for Al Arabiya. Follow him on Twitter : @hisham_melhem
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