US, alone, vetoes UN condemnation of Israeli settlements

[JayAtl]

^^^ in the excitment of ranting off jewish bigtory, you may have missed some comments above mine.

 

[casual]

^^^ in the excitment of ranting off jewish bigtory, you may have missed some comments above mine.

missed what? this thread has nothing to do with china. get out of here troll.

 

[webber]

You accept Jesus as a prophet, however why then do you not accept who he said he was. Jesus was born of the house of David for a reason. Can you tell me what that reason was?

Israels re-emergence as a nation is not the first time it has happened. Becuase of Israels rebellious attitude towards God he has at times struck them. Sending them into captivity by their enemies. However God always brings them back. Why? becuase of his promises to Abraham and King David.


God's promise to Abraham (Gen 22:18)
"through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed"

God's Promise to King David (2 Samuel 7:16)
"Your house and your kingdom will endure forever before me; your throne will be established forever."


Israel was blinded to the reality of who Jesus was. So that God's plan for redeeming man back to God could take place. Jesus testified to this truth before and after his crucifixion. We are still seeing the unfolding of what Jesus said would take place. And none of it includes the destruction of Israel. How many wars need to be lost before you realise this?

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

looks the same as al-qaeda

using the same bible persecuted jews for 2000ys

 

[oceanx]

There were 3 Jewish states here before 1948.

Show me pre 1960-es mention of Palestinian people.

"Your" Hebrew states of antiquity shared the land with Canaanites, Hittites ("Philistines"), and "Phoenicians" - just to name a few. Some became Lebanese, and some are indisputably "Palestinians" - especially since you don't want them in "your country".

Thanks to the settlers and "Likudnik" (and their like-minded and wannabes), those who were once without an identity have now acquired one.

No one gives its territory.

Not true. A "territory" needs not be a state. Palestine was a province or (sub-province) of various empires and larger states. Since Izzies tell everyone who cares to listen that they don't want the Pals as their "province", then at least have the decency of giving them their state!

Well, laugh it up.

 

[oceanx]

Let's entertain "religion" since Captain Thomas blasted open that gate.

Israels re-emergence as a nation is not the first time it has happened. Becuase of Israels rebellious attitude towards God he has at times struck them. Sending them into captivity by their enemies. However God always brings them back. Why? becuase of his promises to Abraham and King David.

Sure. Every nation state's survival is conditional and at the pleasure of the Most High.

God's promise to Abraham (Gen 22:18)
"through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed"

Why, Ishmael is not an "offspring"? I see, "through Isaac shall your offspring be counted" ...

What about Esau? Is he not a son of Isaac? I see, he traded his birthright for a bowl of stew ...

But the New Testament has rendered the purpose of all these squabbles "fulfilled", if you will!

God's Promise to King David (2 Samuel 7:16)
"Your house and your kingdom will endure forever before me; your throne will be established forever."

The King has come already, as you surely know.

Israel was blinded to the reality of who Jesus was. So that God's plan for redeeming man back to God could take place. Jesus testified to this truth before and after his crucifixion.

Romans 11 is rich with meaning that's for sure. Much of it I can't claim to fully comprehend. Suffice to say that I neither subscribe to the "supercession"/"replacement" theology that have mostly permeated Christianity over the first 20 centurires, nor do feel the slightest affinity to the flip side twin of "Christian Zionism". The latter is IMO equally malevolent and virulent.

And will come to no good end, IMO.

We are still seeing the unfolding of what Jesus said would take place. And none of it includes the destruction of Israel. How many wars need to be lost before you realise this?

Of course we are. The "Nation" or "People" of Israel is not tantamount to the "State of Israel". The former may very well be an indestructible miracle through the ages. But the latter, i.e., the State of Israel, I am afraid does not enjoy that biblical "immunity".

As least that's how the writings on the wall appear to an average, believing joe like me.

 

[Sinnerman108]

You accept Jesus as a prophet, however why then do you not accept who he said he was. Jesus was born of the house of David for a reason. Can you tell me what that reason was?

Think about it, reproduction and having offspring has been a character of us mortals, why would the immortal one need to have "children" and then send them down to earth to be humiliated for one of his creations ??

Israels re-emergence as a nation is not the first time it has happened. Becuase of Israels rebellious attitude towards God he has at times struck them. Sending them into captivity by their enemies. However God always brings them back. Why? becuase of his promises to Abraham and King David.

That part is partly correct.
We agree that:
The Children of Israel were the chosen people.
The Children of Israel had the most number of prophets amongst them.
The Children of Israel were blessed by God more than any one else.
The Children of Israel got more chances from God than any one else.
The children of Israel had most number of books of God.

BUT
Remember God is fair, every thing he does holds true in justice.
Thus in return of all the favors that God did to the children of Israel
God also required Children of Israel to be the best believers amongst all,
and God tested the children of Israel tougher than every one else.

What do you think ... ??

God's promise to Abraham (Gen 22:18)
"through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed"

God's Promise to King David (2 Samuel 7:16)
"Your house and your kingdom will endure forever before me; your throne will be established forever."

Ismael, or Ishmael as you call was also Abraham's son ?

Israel was blinded to the reality of who Jesus was. So that God's plan for redeeming man back to God could take place. Jesus testified to this truth before and after his crucifixion. We are still seeing the unfolding of what Jesus said would take place. And none of it includes the destruction of Israel. How many wars need to be lost before you realise this?

Christians are waiting for Jesus to be back
Muslims are waiting for Jesus to be back.
We both agree that Jesus will come and make peace on earth amongst all people.

The only people who are NOT waiting for Jesus is the Jews.
So WHY can't the Vatican do some thing about it ?

and while we are waiting for Jesus ... Atleast agree on one God of Abraheen, of Moses of Adam, of Jesus ...
At least try to fight paganism ....
and we see Atheists are a rise in christian countries ....

Thomas... comeon .. really

 

[Luftwaffe]

500..Thats history accepted by everyone. Can you name me any Palestinian king/ruler before Arafat? Palestinian currency? Actually before 1960-es there is no a single mention of "palestinian people" at all.

No that history is not accepted by Islamic world, its not accepted by China, its only accepted by western world governments and minorities civilians and because its being played to accept on biased global western news channels like an old stupid radio ranting show.

Ok eduction time for you.
Do you know the history who were before you people? Wasn't it Prophet Dawood who took over this land as the ruler of Jewish people with-in which there were 2 followers of those who believed in El-Eli and those who weren't but both were under the same flag until one party started the trouble who are now called Zionists, I won't drag in all jews as many of Jews are Muslims a Jew can be a Muslim and yet be called a Jew.
The three groups (Canaanites, Philistines, and Israelites) assimilated with each other over the years. So where does the only Israelities belong to this land comes from? The unity of Israelite tribes enabled Prophet Dawood PBUH to establish a large independent state (the official birth of a state), with its capital at Jerusalem with the party or tribe who followed El-Eli the now called Muslims were in charge and rulers (this will bite you again but its the reality). After the death of Prophet Dawood, alayhi-salam, in around 961 BC Prophet Sulayman, alayhi-salam, his son, became the new king of Israel. And these were the Muslim (jewish) kings...Its not about jews being the owner of the land, the situation and trouble is the party who is not the follower of the opposite religion wants control of the land in this case Zionists...
In many of the jewish books, jews don't take Jesus PBUH as a prophet and citizen of Palestine, so there is no point in discussing with people like you who are stuck with the following rant "i don't know, i don't want to know but i want it!".

 

[*Awan*]

Then it should not be hard to find mention of Palestinian people before 1964.

Different interpretations of what the Bible says about the extent of king David's empire.

The Holy Land, or Palestine, showing the ancient kingdoms of Judah and Israel

Where from you got that nonsense? By the way, Palestine is Hebrew word.

sorry i can't provide you the source.it will ruin alot of my time.you did not commented on first part "next year in jerusalem"
Hebrew/ibrani it self has its root in suriani/don't about english name.just like arabic has hebrew roots.

Eretz Canaan, Eretz Hakodesh, Eretz Israel...

so you accept that Palestine always existed in history under different names.
Canaan is the name of person from the blood line of ismail.his children are known as canaanities.they also live their with you side by side so because of this you get the name Eretz israel


i attached images with my post but they are not being displayed????any one know why??

 

[500]

Thanks to the settlers and "Likudnik" (and their like-minded and wannabes), those who were once without an identity have now acquired one.

Thats true. They acquired identity since 1967.

Since Izzies tell everyone who cares to listen that they don't want the Pals as their "province", then at least have the decency of giving them their state!

We offered them a state at leat 3 times in past 10 years. Problem is that they dont want their state, they want to destroy our state.

 

[500]

so you accept that Palestine always existed in history under different names.

Palestine became a separate entity when Jews made their kingdom 3000 years ago.
Palestinian people got their identity in 1967, when we captured them from Jordan and Egypt.

Word Palestine based on Plishtim from Hebrew Bible. It derived from Hebrew word "Polesh" - invader.

i attached images with my post but they are not being displayed????any one know why??

U atached url of page not image's url. Here they are:

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

I think that peace prize was more of a .. "please take this and live upto it" gesture..

Hell even those reporters from Gaza atleast deserved a Pulitzer if not Nobel Peace Prize But the Chinese Nobel Peace Prize winner Liu Xiaobo beat all of em..

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

 

[*Awan*]

You accept Jesus as a prophet,

A muslim can't be muslim until and unless he can't believe esa/jesus as prophet.

however why then do you not accept who he said he was.

because he never said what you attributed towards him.we consider his birth a miracle,he was born of virgin,his mother was pure and noble women.he was send as a messenger towards the children of Israel.

Jesus was born of the house of David for a reason. Can you tell me what that reason was?

every prophet who was send to children of israel was one of them.

Israels re-emergence as a nation is not the first time it has happened. Becuase of Israels rebellious attitude towards God he has at times struck them. Sending them into captivity by their enemies.

true.they were allowed to return only when they start obeying the commands of god and prophet of that time.when ever they deviate from right path their @ss get kicked very badly.for more details educate your self about the destruction of their two temples.

However God always brings them back. Why? becuase of his promises to Abraham and King David.


God's promise to Abraham (Gen 22:18)
"through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed"

God's Promise to King David (2 Samuel 7:16)
"Your house and your kingdom will endure forever before me; your throne will be established forever."

do you know in our book their are some signs mentioned regarding you.one on them is you partially believe on book.you took the verse which suits you and neglect the rest.the original story was something like this
when god became happy from sacrifice of Ibrahim he promised to Ibrahim that I will make you chief of all human beings.Ibrahim replied and from my blood line also.god said the one who follow my path.
god give the chance to jews in shape of jesus and Prophet Muhammad saw(ask any rabbi why you people are present in madina and khyber) but they fail to honor the commitment. thatsi why jews have no relation to religion of ibrahim.
and we muslims are the followers and custodian of religion of ibrahim because we believe on the prophet hood of Muhammad saw who from the blood line of ismail so the grand child of ibrahim.
and by the way for your kind info jews are forbidden to enter into holy land because they are not pure enough(according to their own books)

Israel was blinded to the reality of who Jesus was.

you are hiding the facts.does not jesus talk to their elders when he was child in defense of the honor of his mother?????

So that God's plan for redeeming man back to God could take place. Jesus testified to this truth before and after his crucifixion.

are you referring to "original sin".according to your books which our father adam committed.
lol.you know what who was the biggest preachers of christianity ,romans and saint paul(read about his life as a tax/custom collector).the one who are the biggest enemy of jesus in his life.when romans accept christianity ,they were very embarrassed,because they are the killers of christ at first place.so the chruch made the story of original sin.hahahaha

We are still seeing the unfolding of what Jesus said would take place.

do you know that both of you christians and jews don't have their books for 200-300 years?

And none of it includes the destruction of Israel.

if you want to see the trailer of that then i pray to god you have enough health life when you see the flag of Pakistan on delhi.just remember one thing this will be the next major event on the face of the earth.and when you see it happening,it means that process of destruction of israel is initiated.

How many wars need to be lost before you realise this?

there is a thing known as fate.and destruction of israel is written.
if you suffering to arab israel wars then think it as a game b/w cat and mouse.where mouse usually wins.because one run for food and other for life.

by the way why you people so much advocate the killers of christ.or it is the effectiveness of the milk of those european womens whom husbands,sons and brothers fought with salahudin.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

The Deciple of Jesus even use envy Mary Madgaline who BTW was realy close to Jesus. The Catholic Church declared her a prostitute, How can the people believ in somebody who blamed one of Jesus's deciples of wrong doing and ill will..!!!
The true form of Bible and Torah have vanished from the face of Earth. It is said that the Last Book that is the Quran will also be lifted from Earth once the day of judgement nears...!!!
Plus the jews will be decieved big time and the only thing which would give them refuge will be certin kind of Tree and none else. However it is said in Quran too that Bani Isareal was amongst the favourite Nations of God , and God use lower Food from heaven for Bani Israel in times of Drought.

 

[500]

Christians are waiting for Jesus to be back
Muslims are waiting for Jesus to be back.
We both agree that Jesus will come and make peace on earth amongst all people.

The only people who are NOT waiting for Jesus is the Jews.
So WHY can't the Vatican do some thing about it ?

You forgot one little detail: Christians believe that Jesus will send all Muslims to hell while Muslims believe that he will send all Christians to hell. I dont mind Jesus to come back by the way. He was a nice Jewish guy.