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Upper Karnali Hydropower Project, Nepal

@UKBengali

UKB Da,

Excellent. Add also Bhutan to this mix. This is the right way to build prosperity.

The good thing about building HEPs in Nepal and Bhutan is that you dont have to deal with self-proclaimed activists like Ms Media Patkar.

Regards
 
@UKBengali

UKB Da,

Excellent. Add also Bhutan to this mix. This is the right way to build prosperity.

The good thing about building HEPs in Nepal and Bhutan is that you dont have to deal with self-proclaimed activists like Ms Media Patkar.

Regards



Yes, BD will look to finance hydroelectric power plants in Bhutan to import electricity from them through India.

Does not matter what anyone here says as BD and India will build a massive economic region in the area of 400 million people where goods, services and energy will trade freely without hindrance.
 

I have read through the news above and I did not see anything to celebrate here. India will fund the project, but the project is in Nepal, so it will get automatically a share of 12% of the total output.
BD will just purchase 56% of the output from the Indian company. However, our BAL brats (Read @UKBengali) are celebrating at that as if BD engineers are doing all this stuff. Note that India will not only invest money but also that its companies will design the project including civil structures, electrical, piping, and mechanical components like sluice gates, electrical cables, pylons, and turbines.

And these machines will be manufactured in India by Indian expert companies. However, our feeble-minded BAL brats are celebrating as if BD will do so. Do not you guys feel shame that BD people cannot build any such things? And always ask other countries to build anything important?
 
@bluesky

Neel Akash Dada,

Do not you guys feel shame that BD people cannot build any such things?

Why so? Why is it important that BD build all these things. BD because of the nature of its topography will never have a large domestic hydroelectric power sector. Why create a domestic OEM manufacturer then? As it is there are barely half a dozen large manufacturers of hydro equipment worldwide and BD simply cannot sustain a large manufacturers.

BD is doing a great job doing large scale manufacturing in industries it has always been great at (think textiles) and which uses its inherent skills and capabilities. Better that BD be harnessing that, isnt it?

Regards
 
@bluesky

Neel Akash Dada,

Do not you guys feel shame that BD people cannot build any such things?

Why so? Why is it important that BD build all these things. BD because of the nature of its topography will never have a large domestic hydroelectric power sector. Why create a domestic OEM manufacturer then? As it is there are barely half a dozen large manufacturers of hydro equipment worldwide and BD simply cannot sustain a large manufacturers.

BD is doing a great job doing large scale manufacturing in industries it has always been great at (think textiles) and which uses its inherent skills and capabilities. Better that BD be harnessing that, isnt it?

Regards



I would not waste time with half-educated people like that.

They are talking about things way beyond their level of knowledge and ability.

Unlike India, much smaller BD will focus on a few key areas like textiles, home electronics, pharma, IT and shipbuilding for the next 1-2 decades.

It is better to be good at a few things than bad at a lot of things.


PS - BD has one 250MW hydroelectric power plant at Kaptai built during the Pakistan era by I think a US company.
 
Yes, BD will look to finance hydroelectric power plants in Bhutan to import electricity from them through India.

Does not matter what anyone here says as BD and India will build a massive economic region in the area of 400 million people where goods, services and energy will trade freely without hindrance.
No wonder, everything you dream will come down from the sky. Why talk about India and BD together?

What India can build today, big mouth BD people will be unable to do the same in the next five hundred years. This is why India is building the project in Nepal and BD is unable to sully even a single nut there.
 
Forget about what happened a few years ago as we are now in 2022.

India absolutely needs BD to help develop W. Bengal and the NE States. Even Modi can be turned around by economic realities on the ground.

Where did you get 100s of miles as you can go well south of the Silguri corridor and it will still be less than 100kms?

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The power will be cheap and clean and the alternative is to build more fossil fuel capacity in BD with potential pollution and extremely high fuel prices for gas, coal, oil etc.
It won't just be 500MW as this will be the start. BD will eventually import some GWS of cheap and clean hydroelectricity from Nepal and Bhutan through India.

Like I said in my previous post, BD would need to build at least 20GW of power capacity just in the next 8 years and sourcing around 5GW minimum of it from/via India would be balanced way to go about this.

PS - W Bengal in this area does not have any active separatist movements. Most of the problems are in the NE States.
A few miles below does not mitigate a risk. You take lesson from history, else it retpeats itself. Indian folks have this thing about using their so called superpower which they showed with Nepals access, Onions, non-tariff barriers, and what not. Oh and the cases of Mao's activities in that area.

My point is consider all these factors to wrap everything in a ironclad contract, if you don't you leave yourself subject to the whim of the neighbor.
 
A few miles below does not mitigate a risk. You take lesson from history, else it retpeats itself. Indian folks have this thing about using their so called superpower which they showed with Nepals access, Onions, non-tariff barriers, and what not. Oh and the cases of Mao's activities in that area.

My point is consider all these factors to wrap everything in a ironclad contract, if you don't you leave yourself subject to the whim of the neighbor.


Please research the current geopolitics of the region and then come back.

BD can absolutely hit India back just as hard as the other way round.

Power balance will keep shifting towards BD into the future.
 
Please research the current geopolitics of the region and then come back.

BD can absolutely hit India back just as hard as the other way round.

Power balance will keep shifting towards BD into the future.
I forgot this little fact that it is a run of the river power. When the river runs low, the production is low , that will bring the pecking order. We have seen how well India sticks to the water sharing agreements.
India will always be more powerful than Bangladesh by the virtue of the fact that it is about 25 times bigger in area and 8 or 9 times in population, and much bigger economy.

My point once again consider all the variables before going in, buyers remorse doesn't go far in the real world.
 
Please research the current geopolitics of the region and then come back.

BD can absolutely hit India back just as hard as the other way round.

Power balance will keep shifting towards BD into the future.

We have two extreme camps in Bangladesh: Dhakaya chetona socialists and India phobes like “Shadinota Ghoshok” Major Zia.

Luckily we have had three Sylheti finance ministers to keep these two groups of saboteurs in check.

As I said, Reza needs to step up and help Hasina to bottle these two moronic groups.
 
I forgot this little fact that it is a run of the river power. When the river runs low, the production is low , that will bring the pecking order. We have seen how well India sticks to the water sharing agreements.
India will always be more powerful than Bangladesh by the virtue of the fact that it is about 25 times bigger in area and 8 or 9 times in population, and much bigger economy.

My point once again consider all the variables before going in, buyers remorse doesn't go far in the real world.


Dude, I give up with you.

You are one of the mass of people that lurk on this forum that never listen when people of superior knowledge tell you that you are wrong.

Carry on as it will make zero difference to the ground reality that what I say is and will happen between BD and India.
 
Dude, I give up with you.

You are one of the mass of people that lurk on this forum that never listen when people of superior knowledge tell you that you are wrong.

Carry on as it will make zero difference to the ground reality that what I say is and will happen between BD and India.
No need to get defensive, it is just a discussion board. I will agree to disagree !
 
No need to get defensive, it is just a discussion board. I will agree to disagree !

Learn to listen. Don’t just disagree for the sake of it.

Know that @UKBengali has a degree from an elite British university whilst your average YouTube celeb has a diploma from chetona (aka Dhaka) university.

@UKBengali was also spot on with his covid assessment. Unlike his detractors who were way off the mark. Like the troll Nilgiri!
 
Learn to listen. Don’t just disagree for the sake of it.

Know that @UKBengali has a degree from an elite British university whilst your average YouTube celeb has a diploma from chetona (aka Dhaka) university.

@UKBengali was also spot on with his covid assessment. Unlike his detractors who were way off the mark. Like the troll Nilgiri!



Problem here is that since there is no instant correct answer, they do not know they are wrong.

In school in mathematics they would have been told instantly that 2 + 2 = 4 and so their answer of 5 was wrong.

We had someone have a go at me for that Nepal-India-BD hydroelectricity supply thread, since BD does not have a hydroelectric power industry that can build the plant itself in Nepal and so India would be building it instead.

They seem to have missed the bit that BD is one of the flattest countries on the planet and so it would have made no sense for it to have built up a hydroelectric power industry in order to build plants in other countries on the off-chance the opportunity arose some day.

It is like I say the inability to take in a mass of disparate information from different sources and angles, process and analyse it and come to a valid opinion on each individual topic from this that lies behind just plainly getting it wrong time after time.
 
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@bluesky

Neel Akash Dada,

Do not you guys feel shame that BD people cannot build any such things?

Why so? Why is it important that BD build all these things. BD because of the nature of its topography will never have a large domestic hydroelectric power sector. Why create a domestic OEM manufacturer then? As it is there are barely half a dozen large manufacturers of hydro equipment worldwide and BD simply cannot sustain a large manufacturers.

BD is doing a great job doing large scale manufacturing in industries it has always been great at (think textiles) and which uses its inherent skills and capabilities. Better that BD be harnessing that, isnt it?

Regards
Why are you fussing here and making ill comments? I was on;ly criticizing @UKBengali for giving an impression that BD itself is participating in the construction of the said project.

In reality, BD will only purchase electricity from India. If so, why this guy is celebrating?
 
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