You know mate, IA could have easily handed over the PoW's to the newly formed Government of Bangladesh as crimes were committed on their soil. There were strident calls for it. No one in the world barring USA would have objected and frankly, we did not give 1 hoot to USA or USSR at that point of time. We had not crossed USA's redline on diverting forces to West Pakistan. All else was acceptable. As it is, Indira Gandhi had shown the middle finger to US quite literally even with US sending the 7th Fleet off BoB.
You should read the surrent document, if i remember correctly it explicitly states that the Indian Army will take personal charge of Pakistani troops and would provide the necessary provisions for their accomodations which they indeed did and i commend them for it. This is the reason why PA surrendered, if they hadn't than they were willing to fight till the last man because they knew that it was going to be death anyways under MB. Both USSR and USA forced India to accept this clause, and the IA was also forthcoming about it because she did not want to continue the hostilities. And as far as IG showing the middle finger to US, lets be realistic here for one second. The US had almost 15 carrier attack groups in 1970's, each carrier group containing more fire power than the entire Indian Army combined, do you honestly think if it came to blows who would have won? The US Navy could have destroyed your entire fleet, fire a couple of missiles at your C&C and there was nothing IG could do about it. The only nation that could have helped you was USSR, but i have my doubts if they would as they were getting ready to blast China out of the face of the Earth in 1971.
The GoB would have conducted a kangaroo trial for crime against humanity and sentenced them all to death & they would have shot all the officers in anycase in a fake breakout or something. You have no idea of their blood thirst at that time.
I exactly know of the blood thirst at the time, and that is why i am telling you that PA would never have surrendered if the IA refused to take them into custody.
As i said, be honest to yourself atleast. If GoI wanted, they would have more than easily made a mockery of geneva conventions. Give credit where its due.
They couldn't, they signed a document and than if India would have allowed a massacre, you had the entire world watching at you. And indeed i do give them credit for providing very comfy facilities, my phopha who was a POW told me that in some cases they were provided better rations than their Indian counterparts. IA officers would extend their counterpart full professional courtesy, invite them to dinner and balls etc. But sorry to say, those days are long gone. There is hardly any comradarie that exists among the soldiers near the LOC anymore.
No one here is celebrating the Pakistani's death. Almost every Indian has said that while bad, it was more than expected considering the circumstances.
Well than you should read the thread again, i moderated a lot of the comments from your Indian brethren which were outright disgusting against the martyred soldier.
IA has shot 1 terrorist 1 day before on trying to jump the LoC. Few got away.
Couple this with the general tensions on the border and it was more than expected that IA would be shooting first and asking questions later.
The soldier in this case was wearing a uniform so that should distinguish him but either way, it does not matter what the tangents are. You are perfectly right in stating that IA was well with in her rights to shoot first and ask questions later, after all the PA Jawan was on the wrong side of the border and not the other way around.
The Pakistani reports that say the Pakistani soldier was interrogated before being shot are not credible and based on nothing but hearsay from 'some villagers'. As i said, while ISPR maybe credible for you, we have witnessed Pakistani Army lying straight faced to its whole nation.
We will never know the real truth unless their is an investigation, we can only make educated guesses.
It has happened. Rangers at times. These dont always get published in newspapers. Its generally handled at the local level quite fast.
I know it has, it has been an unwritten rule for the past 60 years to return strayed soldiers with full professional courtesies. I know for sure that there was one incident in 2006 where a small platoon lead by 2nd Lt was lost and ended up on the Indian side of the border. The IA took them to their local camps, served them tea, biscuits and brought whatever sweets they had, they did not even disarm them. What i fear is that this action has set a very bad precedant because you can be damn sure that PA won't be that forgiving when they get in their hands on a strayed IA Jawan, but i pray to God they are because no point in killing a bread winner for petty revenge.
Let me point out the difference. The fake encounters, ketchups etc are individuals in IA doing these illegal acts to get benefits. No different from corruption in IA that takes place. IA itself found these individuals and trialed them.
However there is a difference in that IA is not lying to the GoI. Do you understand what would happen here if IA lied to the GoI or undertook operations without GoI's sanction?
Hell would break lose on them.
While PA does exactly that - lies strait faced to its own Government and public. The public part is even understandable to some extent, but PA does to to the political masters.
So lets not even begin to compare about these things.
Are you seriousaly going to lie straight to my face? Those investigations were conducted when this whole hoopla was uncovered by the Indian media, it left the IA red faced. Whether the IA lies to their political masters or not, it does not matter. Lets stop it with this attitude of 'Doodh say Dhula Huwa', IA has had her hand in the glove of some pretty nasty things just like PA. They are not angels as you are making them out to be.
