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UPA's Pink Revolution Makes India World's Biggest Beef Exporter

I think we can all see who is "dumb" here :P

I have quoted the Gita which describes the Asura vitta. Go back to my previous posts.

Again I am forced to repeat, this is the view of Hinduism....not my personal view :lol: ....... however hard you try to spin in around, it just won't fly.

"May the wind blow upon our cows with healing; may they eat herbage ...

Like-coloured various-hued or single- coloured whose names through sacrifice

are known to Agni, Whom the Angirases produced by Ferbvour - vouschsafe to

these, Parjanya, great.protection. Those who have offered to the gods their

bodies whose varied forms are all well known to Soma"

In the Rig Veda (RV: VIII.43.11) Agni is described as "fed on ox and cow"

suggesting that cattle were sacrificed and roasted in fire. Another hymn (RV:

X.16.7) mentions the ritual enveloping of the corpse with cow flesh before

applying the fire on it.

In the Brahmanas at 1.15 in the Aiteriya Brahmana, the kindling of Agni on the

arrival of King Some is compared to the slaughter of a bull or a barren cow on

the arrival of a human king or other dignitary

Similarly, at II.1.11.1 in the Taiteriya Brahmana and XXXI.14.5 in the

Panchavinsha Brahmana, the rishi Agastya is credited with the slaughter of a

hundred bulls.



In verse III.1.2.21 in the Satapatha Brahmana, sage Yajnavalkaya asserts that

even though the cow is the supporter of everyone, he would eat beef "if it is

luscious." At IV.5-2.1 in the same Brahmana, it is said that a barren cow can

be slaughtered in the Some sacrifice. Not only for religious purposes, but also

for other purposes one could kill a cow and eat beef. Thus at II.4.2 of the

same Brahmana, it is suggested that a fat bull or fat goat

should be sacrificed in honour of an important guest.



Similarly, the Brihadaranyaka Upanishada (VI.4.18) advises a couple to take an

evening meal of beef or veal pulao,and have bull and cow like sex if they

desire to beget a son who is learned in the Vedas.o_O
 
Beef eating: strangulating history


While one must respect the sentiments of those who worship cow and regard her as their mother, to take offence to the objective study of history just because the facts don't suit their political calculations is yet another sign of a society where liberal space is being strangulated by the practitioners of communal politics. [text Tag=blue-tint][/Text]PROF. D. N. JHA, a historian from Delhi University, had been experiencing the nightmares of `threats to life' from anonymous callers who were trying to prevail upon him not to go ahead with the publication of his well researched work, Holy Cow: Beef in Indian Dietary Traditions.

As per the reports it is a work of serious scholarship based on authentic sources in tune with methods of scientific research in history. The book demonstrates that contrary to the popular belief even today a large number of Indians, the indigenous people in particular and many other communities in general, consume beef unmindful of the dictates of the Hindutva forces.

It is too well known to recount that these Hindutva forces confer the status of mother to the cow. Currently 72 communities in Kerala - not all of them untouchables - prefer beef to the expensive mutton and the Hindutva forces are trying to prevail upon them to stop the same.

Not tenable

To begin with the historian breaks the myth that Muslim rulers introduced beef eating in India. Much before the advent of Islam in India beef had been associated with Indian dietary practices. Also it is not at all tenable to hold that dietary habits are a mark of community identity.

A survey of ancient Indian scriptures, especially the Vedas, shows that amongst the nomadic, pastoral Aryans who settled here, animal sacrifice was a dominant feature till the emergence of settled agriculture. Cattle were the major property during this phase and they offered the same to propitiate the gods. Wealth was equated with the ownership of the cattle.

Many gods such as Indra and Agni are described as having special preferences for different types of flesh - Indra had weakness for bull's meat and Agni for bull's and cow's. It is recorded that the Maruts and the Asvins were also offered cows. In the Vedas there is a mention of around 250 animals out of which at least 50 were supposed to be fit for sacrifice and consumption. In the Mahabharata there is a mention of a king named Rantideva who achieved great fame by distributing foodgrains and beef to Brahmins. Taittiriya Brahman categorically tells us: `Verily the cow is food' (atho annam via gauh) and Yajnavalkya's insistence on eating the tender (amsala) flesh of the cow is well known. Even later Brahminical texts provide the evidence for eating beef. Even Manusmriti did not prohibit the consumption of beef.

As a medicine

In therapeutic section of Charak Samhita (pages 86-87) the flesh of cow is prescribed as a medicine for various diseases. It is also prescribed for making soup. It is emphatically advised as a cure for irregular fever, consumption, and emaciation. The fat of the cow is recommended for debility and rheumatism.

With the rise of agricultural economy and the massive transformation occurring in society, changes were to be brought in in the practice of animal sacrifice also. At that time there were ritualistic practices like animal sacrifices, with which Brahmins were identified. Buddha attacked these practices. There were sacrifices, which involved 500 oxen, 500 male calves, 500 female calves and 500 sheep to be tied to the sacrificial pole for slaughter. Buddha pointed out that aswamedha, purusmedha, vajapeya sacrifices did not produce good results. According to a story in Digha Nikaya, when Buddha was touring Magadha, a Brahmin called Kutadanta was preparing for a sacrifice with 700 bulls, 700 goats and 700 rams. Buddha intervened and stopped him. His rejection of animal sacrifice and emphasis on non-injury to animals assumed a new significance in the context of new agriculture.

The threat from Buddhism

The emphasis on non-violence by Buddha was not blind or rigid. He did taste beef and it is well known that he died due to eating pork. Emperor Ashok after converting to Buddhism did not turn to vegetarianism. He only restricted the number of animals to be killed for the royal kitchen.

So where do matters change and how did the cow become a symbol of faith and reverence to the extent of assuming the status of `motherhood'? Over a period of time mainly after the emergence of Buddhism or rather as an accompaniment of the Brahminical attack on Buddhism, the practices started being looked on with different emphasis. The threat posed by Buddhism to the Brahminical value system was too severe. In response to low castes slipping away from the grip of Brahminism, the battle was taken up at all the levels. At philosophical level Sankara reasserted the supremacy of Brahminical values, at political level King Pushyamitra Shung ensured the physical attack on Buddhist monks, at the level of symbols King Shashank got the Bodhi tree (where Gautama the Buddha got Enlightenment) destroyed.

One of the appeals to the spread of Buddhism was the protection of cattle wealth, which was needed for the agricultural economy. In a way while Brahminism `succeeded' in banishing Buddhism from India, it had also to transform itself from the `animal sacrifice' state to the one which could be in tune with the times. It is here that this ideology took up the cow as a symbol of their ideological march. But unlike Buddha whose pronouncements were based on reason, the counteraction of Brahminical ideology took the form of a blind faith based on assertion. So while Buddha's non-violence was for the preservation of animal wealth for the social and compassionate reasons the counter was based purely on symbolism. So while the followers of Brahminical ideology accuse Buddha of `weakening' India due to his doctrine of non-violence, he was not a cow worshipper or vegetarian in the current Brahminical sense.

Despite the gradual rigidification of Brahminical `cow as mother' stance, large sections of low castes continued the practice of beef eating. The followers of Buddhism continued to eat flesh including beef. Since Brahminism is the dominant religious tradition, Babur, the first Mughal emperor, in his will to his son Humayun, in deference to these notions, advised him to respect the cow and avoid cow slaughter. With the construction of Hindutva ideology and politics, in response to the rising Indian national movement, the demand for ban on cow slaughter also came up.

While one must respect the sentiments of those who worship cow and regard her as their mother, to take offence to the objective study of history just because the facts don't suit their political calculations is yet another sign of a society where liberal space is being strangulated by the practitioners of communal politics. We have seen enough such threats and offences in recent past - be it the opposition to films or the destruction of paintings, or the dictates of the communalists to the young not to celebrate Valentine's Day, etc., - and hope the democratic spirit of our Constitution holds the forte and any threat to the democratic freedom is opposed tooth and nail.

Prof. RAM PUNIYANI


The Hindu : Beef eating: strangulating history
 

fock the free nation idea

Our freedom fighters would be ashamed to see people like you wandering around here ..... and also how you use your right of free speech....

You are insulting every single one of them and every man and woman who died for the freedom of this country in the past with your BS comment...

Religious retards like you are the curse to the world, and your kind is especially pitiful, because you will never come even close to the achievements of those heroes by typing your nonsense on PDF.
 
You have almost nailed it , atlast.:tup:. ...........It will be reared in same fashion or they will go extinct.

This was the very same reason the people after the vedic period made beef a tabboo since they were so much dependent on cattle as there were limitations regarding other alternatives for food, farm jobs etc.

The age has changed but the taboo remains like all other superstitious stuff we follow in daily life.
lol...why u think its a superstition..... i don't think so......
40% of our annual crops production is wasted annually. Have those been distributed among the poor and hungry, ever? If not, what makes you think these resources will be?

Cattles can be fed on crops rendered unfit for human consumption.
hmm...what wasted needed to be preserved ...but there are some essential wastage which no one can stop but only minimize to a level.......and its not 40%....
hmm.....if those resources are nt able to reach poor then its govt. impotency .....our storage and transportation network needed to be strengthen....
yes..cattles can be fed on unfit crops but as I have said once the meat eating [population in the country increses and percapita meat consumption become same as american or european level then all good crops will be fed to the cattles to cultivate meat.....then we will face the problem.......
 
Our freedom fighters would be ashamed to see people like you wandering around here ..... and also how you use your right of free speech....

You are insulting every single one of them and every man and woman who died for the freedom of this country in the past with your BS comment...

Religious retards like you are the curse to the world, and your kind is especially pitiful, because you will never come even close to the achievements of those heroes by typing your nonsense on PDF.
I dont care about It when majority has to bow down to minority wishes all the time.While Minority goes on bullying harassing , directly insulting majority sensibilities and values.I like how you cleverly introduce freedom fighters into discussion to get your point across, why should i respect minorities when they dont respect our values?If you take us for granted then we shall do the same to you.Respect is a two way street. I got one word take a hike if you don't like us.
 
lol...why u think its a superstition..... i don't think so......
..

To consider Holstein, Jersey, brown swiss, guernsey,aberdeen angus or even that small little cute cow which kerala people grow as pets as "HOLY" is not in accordance with my clear conscious mind..

Or are we saying this only for Indian cows, we see in streets, put up in that dirty sheds as "HOLY"??????
 
To consider Holstein, Jersey, brown swiss, guernsey,aberdeen angus or even that small little cute cow which kerala people grow as pets as "HOLY" is not in accordance with my clear conscious mind..

Or are we saying this only for Indian cows, we see in streets, put up in that dirty sheds as "HOLY"??????
lol....u are getting the whole notion wrong......
cows are considered holy because they are multi purpose animals....we get milk, and milk products....cow give birth to bull which till the farm....so, obviously in a agrarian society like us.....cow is the million dollar animal......
so, in old days cows were given high status and protection in society......
holy or not depends on a person and his thinking.....
an idol is holy for hindu but only a lump of stone or earth for muslim or christan.......
so, its depend on the person believe......
 
lol....u are getting the whole notion wrong......
cows are considered holy because they are multi purpose animals....we get milk, and milk products....cow give birth to bull which till the farm....so, obviously in a agrarian society like us.....cow is the million dollar animal......
so, in old days cows were given high status and protection in society......
holy or not depends on a person and his thinking.....
an idol is holy for hindu but only a lump of stone or earth for muslim or christan.......
so, its depend on the person believe......

You can get ur milk from soya and use a tractor and leave the cow to us.
 
Religious retards like you are the curse to the world, and your kind is especially pitiful, because you will never come even close to the achievements of those heroes by typing your nonsense on PDF.
hmm.....how come one person giving his views suddenly become a religious retard and become pitiful....
and hw come u became the champion of the society by typing these words on pdf.....

why it suddenly became a taboo for a hindu to speak of his mind and what he want to see of his country.....and that too in his own country.....
 
Well, you are the only major country with some moral problem with exporting beef, yet you are also the number one beef exporter in the world?
Most of beef abaatoirs are owned and operated by Muslims, so you see how its exported, hindus dont own beef shops or abbatoirs.
 
You can get ur milk from soya and use a tractor and leave the cow to us.
lola....
who will pay for soya milk cost and for the tractors.....
there are million out there in india who can't afford both.......

+ I don't like the taste of soya milk.......:(
 
Vegetarianism can be your culture, but not all of ours, how about we force-feed you non-veg food? Why you guys are trying to impose your will on others? This is totally against our culture.
Noboody is asking you to stop eating, chicken,goat,fish and seafood, its just we have problem with cow thats all, you can eat the rest.
 
That was misconception created under the garb of Anti-Hindu Marxist historians to strengthen North-South divide. It has all to do with the separation of Indo-Iranian people into the follower of two distinct religions, instead of colonial bullshit of Aryan-Dravidian, later on Asura was referred to any king. If you remember, there was a Kansa in Mathura and Jarasandha in Magadha.

Asura - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
i know...thats just a joke...to irritate that mantratruti uncle..
mannichandi..
 
lola....
who will pay for soya milk cost and for the tractors.....
there are million out there in india who can't afford both.......

+ I don't like the taste of soya milk.......:(

Cattle rearing for milk by small farmers is a very very sad business.

Slowly but steadily its the big ones taking over it. I planned to start one along with usual farming , trying hydroponic fodder, but is still reluctant.
 
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