Ok let there be a referendum on beef all over the nation. Period. That should take care of all of it
Done
State level referendums it is 
...... as to who will stop it, build enough consensus and stranger things have happened.After the beef ban, are they going to ban jeans, t-shirts too? As they're not a part of our culture, and not apt for a tropical nation? Will they force down Dhooti for all the Indians?
LOL.....that is an unfortunate side effect of debating with closed minded people. You have to shock them to get them to open their mind and make them listen to a alternative narrative.
But it is interesting to note that you have NOTHING of value to say except stoop to name calling, personal attack.
I am sure in your own mind you are a hero.
LOL...the difference being the ban on beef is due to Religious reasons and not CULTURAL.
Either you are too stupid to not understand the context, or you are pretending to not understand the point. Either way the joke's on you.
Why else would one be in pdf ?
Actually no. It's not so simple in India
i. Many cows are stolen cows. In fact most are.
ii. Old cows being sent to Bangladesh is very rare - because they don't earn almost anything. It's usually the younger cows that are stolen.
iii. Hindus do sell cows but there is a tacit understanding that the purpose is for milking. Like the person who is selling also bought a cow from someone. Thing is while buying a cow, many now pretend to be Hindu. After that they slaughter them.
True, we should look after a cow that has given her entire life supporting multiple families. But then also they are not sold but let on the streets, which is bad enough.
Secondly - this is more complicated than a simple demand supply problem. There is also a huge demand for heroin. Many smart folks still get it. But the dimwits who also want don't. There are certain limits.
Question is why beef?
It is pertinent to recall the fact - how temples were historically converted to mosques or how Hindus were converted en masse to Islam (latest by Tipu Sultan). The procedure inevitably consisted of a severed cow head, cow meat or cow blood. No amount of posturing can hide this documented fact.
Are you a bad hindu if you have beef?
Nope. You are just not a proper astik. But you are still Hindu. There is no apostasy involved here. Only some morality issues. But then also it's complicated. Best is to not to judge.
Also no offense but West Bengal is the bastion of perverted secularism. I will tell you honestly that when I was there, I was often called communal to ask for the quick hanging of Afzal Guru. Funny thing is this Bengali senior even claimed Subramaniam Swamy (a troll) to be a 'cool dude'. When I called him communal he shouted back saying - "Hell I even have beef!!!" True story.
But we have far less incidents of riots even with a considerably large Muslim population.Ok let there be a referendum on beef all over the nation. Period. That should take care of all of it
its true .. in WB and Kerala. eating beef is sign of being true Secular !!! I once offered a bengali secular some sausages! reaction was epic
Of course debating with closed minded "secularists" is my specialty
You are yet to tell us why you support the logic of letting others get away with "anything" because their religion permits.
Your point 1 & 2 says that many cows are stolen, so how many cows are stolen? India is number one in beef export, how many million stolen cows are needed to achieve that? Millions of cows cross over to bangladesh every years, how many of them are stolen? Are we talking about a national crisis here?
Point 3, tacit understanding!! What is the price of a milk producing cow? and what is the price of a cow sold for meat? What is the price of beef in India? Thousands of rupees a kilo? Milk producing cows are not sold for meat, they are too costly for that, both seller & buyer know where the cow is going when it is sold cheap for meat.
Come on, you know you are making strawman argument, I know you are making strawman argument, let's make it unanimous.
How about our neighbours declaring that "We will not allow idol worshiping in our country as we are Muslim majority", or "You have to eat beef if you want to live in Muslim majority country" - we will call them scoundrels and bash them hard, right? Now how about "We will not allow beef in our country as we are Hindu majority", sounds almost similar!!
1. Beef is not heroin, not even comparable.
2. Lot of bad things happened against Hindus, but you want to do a holy war now against Muslims for that? And Hindus used to eat beef previously as I have posted before, only later it was stopped, that's why your quotes were from Atharbaveda. Not so long ago crossing "KALAPANI" (seas) or going to "Mlecchodesh" (Foreign land) would compromise your Hindutva, now would you stick to that?
3. Bengalis come in all colours, shapes, sizes, and mentalities, you can't really generalize, can you? Maybe I will introduce you to one of my rabid Hindutva Bengali friends.
Here, that's the wrong concept. India has many small group of ethnicity & tribes, and also religious minorities, you just cannot run over them just because you are a majority. What if you land up in a Muslim majority area and they call for a referendum to decide whether you should eat beef or not?
And what other option do you have other than being gentle? You guys don't have any ability to act tough on WB or any other state, not convinced? Try it.
And what is naming & shaming? If someone is not ashamed for eating beef then how can you name & shame him?? Too many internet bullies everywhere.
Oh come on. Nobody eats beef to prove a point!! That's fantasy, and beef is not popular among Hindus here, some people eat it, that too mostly in restaurants, the point is you cannot snatch away my right just because you have a higher headcount.[/quote]
First - let me make it clear - I won't impose my food preferences over you, simply because I can't
Your points are good.
And yes, my first argument was strawman
But most beef exported is buffalo meat, not cow.
Only problem is the riots part - most riots in Bengal are suppressed. But I agree you have the higher moral ground here.
But then I am not only against cow meat per se, I am against meat consumption - simply because of ecological reasons. But I won't snatch the food from your plate. I will campaign, may hire some topshot to pose nude
But shout slogans and use force? Not my cup of teass
There are many many ways to skin a cat
I would like to warn you - this guy is blunt and has got a clarity of thinking. A quality many right wingers (like me) don't have
First - let me make it clear - I won't impose my food preferences over you, simply because I can't
Your points are good.
And yes, my first argument was strawman
But most beef exported is buffalo meat, not cow.
Only problem is the riots part - most riots in Bengal are suppressed. But I agree you have the higher moral ground here.
But then I am not only against cow meat per se, I am against meat consumption - simply because of ecological reasons. But I won't snatch the food from your plate. I will campaign, may hire some topshot to pose nude
But shout slogans and use force? Not my cup of tea
I would like to warn you - this guy is blunt and has got a clarity of thinking. A quality many right wingers (like me) don't have
He he...!! You better pray that BJP gets enough seats and this last moment Hindutva thrust don't hurt them hard outside the cow belt, Mamat will sweep the Bengal seats this time and might emerge as a single largest regional party, and things will be kinda hellish if for BJP if they needs to take her support to form the government, she is a tough nut to crack, in fact impossible to crack!!
It's not that I am not supporting BJP, but your kind of aggression for Hindutva is sending wrong message, even Gujrat allow beef, what are you arguing about?
Hehe... But Manvantaratruti is Bengali?Even I like PETA campaigns, one can enjoy the view for free without complying to their demands!!
Bengalis in general are born with sound debating skills!!
