Unundidenfied aircrafts bombed Tripoli, Libya in early hours..

[Falcon29]

Libya has no Jihadists ? What the .... !! ?

You knew that these Jihadists were used by the Western powers to topple the Qadaffi government ?

Libya is now full of stinking terrorist Jihadis who have very similar views as ISIS.

By 'Jihadists' they're trying to imply we have people who want to kill to spread religion. That isn't true in Libya. You are just playing along so you can compare the situation to Syria to suit your perspective. If you want to argue for Syria just go do so in the Syrian thread and it shouldn't involve anything about Libya. Western powers don't want to topple any leaders, they worry about capitalist interests. Right now they want Hafter in power. Just like Egyptian Sisi. They are only a little against Assad because he supported Hezbollah. Now they want him in powee again.

 

[Frogman]

I am not talking about the F16 capabilities and weapon system in general, I am talking about the EAF's , that capability didn't come with them because of your proximity to Israel. I am in no way diminishing the strength of the Egyptian airforce or the experience of it pilots.

What on earth are you talking about?

Egypt operates the F-16 Block 40 and Block 52 fighters, it operates the Paveway family of laser guided munitions, Egypt also operates the GBU-32 Joint Direct Attack Munition, and the Sniper Advanced Targeting Pod, all of these allow Egyptian F-16's to accurately strike any ground target day or night in any weather condition.

Egypt operates the Mirage 2000 and Mirage III Horus, Egypt operates the AS-30L laser guided munition on these air craft (and has integrated US made munitions as well), Egypt also operates ATLIS-II targeting pod (due to be replaced by Democales pod if our Mirages undergo upgrades in France) on its Mirage 2K and the Mirage III Horus has inbuilt Forward Looking Infra Red systems for strike missions so both aircraft are capable of accurately striking any ground target day or night.

Even the fighters due to be retired and are being retired such as the Mig-21 were upgraded to use guided munitions.

All of the above proves Egypt does have the ability to strike ground targets day or night and in any weather condition, on their F-16s, M2K, and MIII Horus. Now if you wish to deny this then do so but accept that you are denying a reality, and that in fact you are diminishing and underestimating the strength of the Egyptian Air Force and that this isn't the first time where I've had to correct you.

 

[IR1907]

By 'Jihadists' they're trying to imply we have people who want to kill to spread religion. That isn't true in Libya. You are just playing along so you can compare the situation to Syria to suit your perspective. If you want to argue for Syria just go do so in the Syrian thread and it shouldn't involve anything about Libya. Western powers don't want to topple any leaders, they worry about capitalist interests. Right now they want Hafter in power. Just like Egyptian Sisi. They are only a little against Assad because he supported Hezbollah. Now they want him in powee again.

No, i am seeing the way things are. Just like how i see the Palestinians are opressed by a bunch of murdering thugs imported from Europe i see Jihadi cockroaches inside Libya trying to cause chaos.

These NATO foot troops aka the ''Libyan rebels'' or the ''Libyan revolutionaries'' were nothing more than terrorists fighting for their own interests, they terrorized a leader that cared for his country and its national wealth.

Look the state of Libya now and compare it to 4 years ago, this is the way that the West wants it. They planned same in Syria but it got backfired.

 

[Mosamania]

What on earth are you talking about?

Egypt operates the F-16 Block 40 and Block 52 fighters, it operates the Paveway family of laser guided munitions, Egypt also operates the GBU-32 Joint Direct Attack Munition, and the Sniper Advanced Targeting Pod, all of these allow Egyptian F-16's to accurately strike any ground target day or night in any weather condition.

Egypt operates the Mirage 2000 and Mirage III Horus, Egypt operates the AS-30L laser guided munition on these air craft (and has integrated US made munitions as well), Egypt also operates ATLIS-II targeting pod (due to be replaced by Democales pod if our Mirages undergo upgrades in France) on its Mirage 2K and the Mirage III Horus has inbuilt Forward Looking Infra Red systems for strike missions so both aircraft are capable of accurately striking any ground target day or night.

Even the fighters due to be retired and are being retired such as the Mig-21 were upgraded to use guided munitions.

All of the above proves Egypt does have the ability to strike ground targets day or night and in any weather condition, on their F-16s, M2K, and MIII Horus. Now if you wish to deny this then do so but accept that you are denying a reality, and that in fact you are diminishing and underestimating the strength of the Egyptian Air Force and that this isn't the first time where I've had to correct you.

Don't waste your time with him, he is not worth the effort.

 

[Ceylal]

Don't waste your time with him, he is not worth the effort.

At least they have excellent pilots. KSA doesn't even register, close to.....a big zero!. Just ask your neighbor 500, he knows.
Haftar loyalists claim Su-24s carried out Tripoli airstrike
Jeremy Binnie, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
20 August 2014

Binina Airbase operates MiG-23s and MiG-21s, but none of Libya's Su-24s have been seen flying since the end of the 2011 conflict. Source: Libyan Air Force
The Libyan faction led by retired general Khalifah Haftar has claimed responsibility for an airstrike carried out against militias in Tripoli on the night of 17-18 August.

The strike reportedly targeted an ammunition store at Mitiga Airbase, which is controlled by the Islamist militias from Misrata who are currently fighting Haftar-allied militias from Al-Zintan.

"The Libyan eagles of the air, on board Sukhoi-24 long-range weapon launchers that were brought back into service again, carried out precise and intensified airstrikes early yesterday morning on targets of the so-called 'Libya Dawn' militias," Haftar's spokesman, Muhammad al-Hijazi, told the Al-Arabiya television news channel. "The pilots said that they had carried out effective strikes that led to destroying all the targeted sites and silencing their fire."

The Libyan Air Force's base at Binina, outside Benghazi, is loyal to Haftar and has serviceable MiG-23 and MiG-21 jets. Libya had some Su-24s, which were designed as long-range, all-weather bombers, but none have been seen flying since the 2011 conflict. Although a half-moon would have meant visibility was good over Tripoli, Libyan Air Force officers have said the service's pilots are not trained to carry out night attacks.

Brigadier General Saqr Jarushi, who was sacked as Libya's air force chief but continues to command Binina, provided a different version of events. He told the Libya Herald that his aircraft had not carried out the airstrikes, which he said also targeted another ammunition store south of Misrata. However, he said that he had personally provided the co-ordinates of the target to a European air force that he did not identify.

Later on 18 August, Brig Gen Jarushi told the same newspaper that Su-24s that were under his control, but provided by a foreign air force, had carried out airstrikes that he implied were in addition to the earlier ones.

ANALYSIS
Algeria and Sudan are the only countries in the region that currently operate Su-24s. Sudan received its first Su-24MK aircraft from Belarus in 2013, but seems the less likely of the two to have carried out the airstrikes in western Libya, 2,700 km away from their home at Wadi Sayyidna Airbase, not least because Haftar's faction has previously accused Khartoum of flying arms to the Misrata militias in Tripoli.

Algeria is not only much closer to western Libya, but has also upgraded some of its Su-MKs to the Su-MK2 standard, which includes a new digital map system that would make it easier for them to carry out night attacks.

Algerian officials have repeatedly denied rumours that the Algerian armed forces are helping to fight Islamist militants in Libya or Tunisia, which would violate the country's constitutional ban on carrying out military operations inside other countries.

However, the Algerian press has been highlighting the security threats coming from neighbouring Libya. On 6 August, the news website al-Fajr claimed that the Algerian military has deployed S-125 air defence systems to the eastern border to shoot down the airliners that jihadists have supposedly stolen from Tripoli International Airport, intending to carry out suicide attacks.

Haftar loyalists claim Su-24s carried out Tripoli airstrike - IHS Jane's 360

 

[Ceylal]

Mysterious bombing Tripoli: clues and questions

on 08/22/14 | 10:00 Print RSS Feed Share
Monday, August 18 around 2am. The sky of the Libyan capital is torn by the noise of fighter engines. There followed a series of explosions that shook several locations south and east of the city. Huge fireballs light up the night. Tripoli rocked for almost two months by factional fighting around the airport and some sensitive points, had not experienced aerial bombing since the fall of Gadhafi.

Where were the bombers, invisible under cover of night, which destroyed two camps militias of Misrata and an ammunition? First denying any involvement, France, the United States and Great Britain disseminate press releases. The Algeria fits their lead a little later, and Egypt casts doubt. The Libyan army is also concerned about the provenance of these aircraft and promised an investigation.

In the evening, the first report is published by the staff of the Libyan air force.It gives very precise details. "The bombing is the act of a foreign air force, it is discarded aircrafts should come from domestic airfields or those controlled by the rebels, the first is not equipped to take off appliances at night and the latter are too far apart. The ammunition used is guided bombs which lack the Libyan air force, "said the first statement.

It will be followed by a more detailed who says that more than one unit were involved in the raid and they committed their goals to ten kilometers away, confirming the surgical character type. Later in the evening of the 18th, a picture of a bomb debris is scattered, it carries a specific marker linked to a Western type of ammunition, bomb Mk82. Immediately, Egyptian analysts Fathered raid through social networks and web sites, their main argument being that Egypt is the only country neighboring Libya that have strike capability by night and by American smart bombs such as those used in the raid.

Algiers denial

But then, if on paper the Egyptian air forces are capable of such a feat, they are very far from being able to run in Tripoli, Egypt does not have aircraft with sufficient range, based the further west is that of Marsa Matrouh being distant 1,350 miles from the target, almost three times the distance of maximum engagement of an F16. The Egyptian Air Force did not capacity refueling, much less missiles capable of treating targets as distant. Algeria remains that has SU24 bombers with ample range to target Tripoli and in-flight refueling capability.

The distance between the Libyan capital and some Algerian airfields sometimes being just 600 km, the western part of Libya is under the Algiers radar coverage. Even better, the Algerian Air Force are also using bombs Mk82 (copied in South Africa) and unguided which deputies external guidance systems called Umbani the same origin, which once installed transform this simple munition smart bomb and sometimes whose fragments found could well be drawn.

Except that Algeria has denied any involvement in the attack, the denial was even followed by an astonishing claim by rallied to dissident General Khalifa Haftar forces, including aircraft in a state of total disrepair have neither lengthens or nighttime capabilities, ammunition needed for this kind of complex operations. The press forces Haftar, not without humor, explained that the two aircraft used, invoking a fictitious model, were transported by road from their main base at Tobruk airbase Zintan, near the capital.

Worse still according to information distilled by pro-Haftar, these devices have been provided by Russian and Ukrainian prisoners captive local militias.However, these claims are very difficult to believe and are far from the technical realities of warplanes. Finally, if the United States and denied even if no aircraft carrier cruising in the Mediterranean does this particular day, they are quite able to have quietly led the attack with conventional means or even experimental.

Akram Kharief
Bombardement mystérieux à Tripoli : Des pistes et des interrogations - International - El Watan