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United States is strengthening military relations with Bangladesh

China would not only want to rely on Pakistan.

Yes, that is why they also have a land route too, and Myanmar route is not fail safe route, its normal route to get things in from Myanmar to Chineses areas closer to that country and will make Myanmar more dependent on China make a new ally in the region.
 
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You have to calculate the yearly average investment of FDI. it was just over $958 million on average from 2002 to 2017, 16 years. So, if your statement of $2,607 is correct the average FDI will become next year an average of $1,055 from 2002 to 2018. Please do your own math.


Why are you arguing for the sake of arguing? :D

https://www.daily-sun.com/post/321593/2018/07/12/US-company-GE-to-invest-7.4-bn-in-Bangladesh

"US company General Electric (GE) on Wednesday signed two separate deals – one with state-owned PDB and another with Summit Group, a local business house – to implement a number of power and energy projects worth about $7.4 billion in joint venture in Bangladesh."

Just GE is coming in with 7.4 billion US dollars. The photo shows the contract being signed!

FDI in BD this year is sure to surpass 10 billion US dollars.
 
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Nah. I would stick with the West.

As corrupt and "bad" as the West is.....a dominant China scares me for some reason.

At least in the West there is a segment of the population (i.e. the LEFT) that as crazy as they are sometimes, is at least a voice of dissent for policies and actions that may be oppresive.

With China, I don't see that as being the case.

I can not put my thoughts into words on this topic effectively but I hope you know what I am trying to say.
i can tell you whites are gentleman and seem civilized outside , but they are beast inside. China is a peace loving country, thats why we didn 't have any colonies when we were an empire back then.
 
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i can tell you whites are gentleman and seem civilized outside , but they are beast inside. China is a peace loving country, thats why we didn 't have any colonies when we were an empire back then.


I forgot about that.

The great Admiral Zheng(Muslim:D) had the most powerful fleet in the world and could have colonised Asia, Africa and the Americas.

World history would have been completely different if China used its Navy to set up colonies.
 
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i can tell you whites are gentleman and seem civilized outside , but they are beast inside. China is a peace loving country, thats why we didn 't have any colonies when we were an empire back then.

I agree with your post.

It’s a complicated issue which I wouldn’t be doing justice to by posting right now.
 
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I can cite the name of a few countries that went bankrupt because they were unable to make payment of the foreign loans. Inflation is a domestic matter. The rate of a currency of a country is also irrelevant when paying back the foreign loans in the dollar.

When a loan secured for investment in the industrial production facilities, it pays dividend, because the country's production and export are up. But, it is not happening in BD. It is borrowing money in dollar to finance construction projects. So, the payment situation is becoming gradually difficult.

Domestic loans by the govt from the Banks or through selling bonds may have some relevance to the GDP, but not the foreign loan because the latter one must be paid back in the dollar. So, the construction projects should be done with local engineers, technicians, and materials as much as possible. Projects like Padma Bridge or Karnaphuli tunnel are different because there is no local company that can accomplish these.
Whatever projects that can be done by local people, labour and manpower should be done locally without any foreign participant. But we're ont skilled enough yet, are we? Flyovers are constructed locally. Some power plants too. Eventually building the skills is necessary. How much progress BD is doing there is questionable though.

Not being able to pay back loans would be a disaster. But I don't think we should worry about it just yet. We should watch out so it does not get too high in comparison with GDP.

I brought inflation because we pay loans back in dollars. Let's say, we take 100 USD loan today, we will pay back 20 years later at 2% interest. We will be paying back 148 USD 20 years later. Now if we consider 3% annual inflation of USD, then we see 148 USD 20 years later is equals to 82 USD today. So in reality we're taking 100 USD and paying back 82 USD. That's the benefit of low interest loans compared to paying upfront. Of course 3% annual inflation rate is a arbitrary number. It can be more or less. I have seen cases where they consider 3% as the default inflation rate.
 
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I brought inflation because we pay loans back in dollars. Let's say, we take 100 USD loan today, we will pay back 20 years later at 2% interest. We will be paying back 148 USD 20 years later. Now if we consider 3% annual inflation of USD, then we see 148 USD 20 years later is equals to 82 USD today. So in reality we're taking 100 USD and paying back 82 USD. That's the benefit of low interest loans compared to paying upfront. Of course 3% annual inflation rate is a arbitrary number. It can be more or less. I have seen cases where they consider 3% as the default inflation rate.
Your assessment may be correct if the unit values of our export products keep on increasing by 3% annually because of the continuously diminished value of the US dollar. But, has it ever happened, is it happening now or will it happen in the near future? Have the international buyers ever considered that they should add a 3% premium every year to the base price of their import?

So, we will get almost the same amount of dollar for exporting a fixed volume of goods. If so, I do not see a cheaper dollar has any meaning when we pay back the loan.
 
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Whatever projects that can be done by local people, labour and manpower should be done locally without any foreign participant.

Sure!! More infrastructures will be build will bamboo instead of rods, their plaster will collapse, bridge will collapse, approach road will collapse, new roads pitch and brick won't last long, culvert and bridge will be built without the road, contractors will vanish with funds before completing the project and the list goes on. Our local piece of shits are so dedicated to their country, aren't they?? :angel:

i can tell you whites are gentleman and seem civilized outside , but they are beast inside. China is a peace loving country, thats why we didn 't have any colonies when we were an empire back then.

That doesn't mean you were good. :lol::lol: The westerners could be cunning but your Mongols were pure savages who built their empire by invading, ravaging countries, slaughters, rape and slavery. Your Khans were quite well known for that, especially Hulagu Khan. Unlike you the west was mostly interested to expand their business when your Khans were busy banging women and concubines. And the children they produced that's why there's a saying that "1 in 200 men direct descendants of Genghis Khan".

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/g...ect-descendants-of-genghis-khan/#.W6hUECUVTIU

Every big and powerful country have many shitty past. Not to mention what your country is currently doing in S.China sea, with debt trap and to Uyghur Muslims. Sure you are peace loving country who veto against Rohingya crisis in UN whose first veto also happens to be against our country to bar us from membership in the UN whose market mostly occupied by you and has deep relationship now.

https://www.nytimes.com/1972/08/26/...rs-bangladesh-soviet-union-and-india-are.html

Cause it's kinda tradition to be a dick, do the opposite always the west do and vote against them in security council even when you shouldn't. So don't feel so good about you, every big powerful country has shitty past and present. None is angel in this world.

I am hearing this Naval Base in BD type of talk from our people since Pakistan time. Can anyone cite a US foreign ministry or a newspaper report on this? Many of BD people talk about it just to self-flatter the importance of their country. Why the USA needs a base in a cyclone-prone poor country? It has bases in other countries including the one in Diego Garcia south of SL.

Since Pakistan time?? :o: that old??!! I heard that in BNP period when i was a kid even saw posters about that. Anyway this what found:

Blog: Why does America want a base in Bangladesh? (And why India isn't amused)
Saurav Jha http://@SJha1618

Updated: June 12, 2012, 11:40 AM IST
"Sustaining America's Advantage in Long Range Strike" (SALS).

The image depicts the flight path that the proposed Next Generation Bomber (NGB), being sought by the US Air Force, might take to strike targets deep within China. It is important to note that CSBA is the leading think-tank analyzing the need for the Pentagon's new AirSea Battle (ASB) concept, which looks to develop joint naval and air force doctrines and systems that would allow the US to defeat so-called Anti-Access/ Area Denial (A2/AD) weapons, and thereby continue to hold targets deep within any hostile nation's territory at risk. It was CSBA which came out with the report "AirSea Battle", a few months prior to SALS and believes that the NGB is a key enabler of any successful ASB strategy.


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Source: Sustaining America's Advantage in Long Range Strike, CSBA

As we can see above, one of the possible routes the NGB or even the existing B-2 of today can take to Delingha in China (a leading light in the development of new A2/AD systems), according to the CSBA release, traverses the Bay Of Bengal, over Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and indeed North-eastern India as well. The choice of target itself is interesting, but let us leave that aside for now. That a possible journey for a proposed new American stealth bomber actually begins from Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean and includes flying over the territory of three Sovereign nations, is a noteworthy feature in light of Obama's pivot to Asia and the concomitant unveiling of ASB.

Now the reasons for taking such a route are, of course, sound enough. China's integrated air defense system (IADS) isn't particularly dense in the region and although new air bases have been built in south-western China, the threat metric to an ingressing NGB is weaker than what it would face on China's eastern seaboard in the South China Sea.

Of course, the NGB, given that it will have less persistence than the B-2, will require at least one refueling on a mission of this sort that begins from Diego Garcia. And it is here that the next graphic (see image 1.2 below) from the same report i.e. SALS depicts an even more interesting picture.


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Source: Sustaining America's Advantage in Long Range Strike, CSBA

What we see above is a possible refueling action for the NGB that takes place, just off the Bangladeshi coast, en-route to Delingha, not too far from where Chittagong is. Now even though China has a relatively weaker air defence net oriented in this direction, such a refueling is better off taking place in sanitized air space, and that means some sort of air cover is envisioned for the NGB and the tanker, as they meet off the coast of Bangladesh.

What better way to provide that air cover than have the Seventh Fleet with its Carrier Battle Group stationed at Chittagong?

Moreover most of China's A2/AD systems (like its best air defences) are also oriented towards the South China Sea. And the most touted A2/AD system of all - China's new DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile relies on a network of land based sensors ( in addition to space based ones) to actually accomplish its role of putting at risk large moving surface craft such as Aircraft Carriers at sea. Unlike the eastern Chinese seaboard, Beijing does not have anything like the over the horizon (OTH) targeting radars and other sensors oriented towards the Bay of Bengal at moment that will make something like the DF-21D to viably project power. It may have some suspected SIGINT facilities on Myanmarese soil, but given Myanmar's rapprochement with the West anything more substantial is looking increasingly unlikely. Indeed Myanmar's re-entry into the broader comity of nations will mean that Beijing's military plans for the Myanmarese coastline are now looking rather dicey.

So, the Seventh Fleet operating in the Northern Indian Ocean is actually an excellent prospect for a Pentagon looking to roll out an effective ASB posture. It will certainly enable the kind of US Navy-Air force cooperation that ASB wants to jointly defeat A2/AD networks in an inside out fashion. In fact future American stealth UCAVS can also traverse a similar route not to mention land attack cruise missiles fired by both surface and sub-surface constituents of the Seventh Fleet.

Now, CSBA is an independent and non-profit think-tank and what we see in this piece isn't of course Official US government thinking. However, CSBA does seem to have emerged as a think tank with a very important ASB practice if we could call it that, and the NGB flight path depictions discussed above either assume that India (and indeed Bangladesh) are in a deep alliance with the US, such that they make their airspace available for such operations or that the NGB will be so stealthy that it will penetrate Indian airspace at will before doing the same to the Chinese. Neither is, of course, a particularly settling prospect to India. Not to mention that a Seventh Fleet in the Bay of Bengal impinges on a core area of interest for India and can surveillance seed numerous Indian facilities in the vicinity, including missile test ranges.

I am sure this is not the kind of partnership India is interested in with the US.

https://www.news18.com/blogs/india/...h-and-why-india-isnt-amused-10879-746915.html

 
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you cant include mongol empire history into Chinese history.....Genghis Khan is not Chinese.
as you live in Japan, yeh i know you get fed with negative news of China every day.

China is the only country that tied down USA army in a war after WWII. Korean war.
 
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China have already by passed Malaka Straights by making CPEC, its matter of time when China will be no longer much dependent on that route.
The CPES may be a supplement to the Chinese transportation of goods, but it cannot substitute the Malacca Strait and Shanghai route. CPEC is good for the Tibet, Uyghur region, but not good for transporting goods overland to a far away north or even middle China. Entire eastern China needs delivery at Shanghai via Malacca route.
 
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The CPES may be a supplement to the Chinese transportation of goods, but it cannot substitute the Malacca Strait and Shanghai route. CPEC is good for the Tibet, Uyghur region, but not good for transporting goods overland to a far away north or even middle China. Entire eastern China needs delivery at Shanghai via Malacca route.

Kindly study about CPEC properly, it is most strategic safe route for energy supply and transportation of goods.
 
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Sure!! More infrastructures will be build will bamboo instead of rods, their plaster will collapse, bridge will collapse, approach road will collapse, new roads pitch and brick won't last long, culvert and bridge will be built without the road, contractors will vanish with funds before completing the project and the list goes on. Our local piece of shits are so dedicated to their country, aren't they?? :angel:
This has to be fixed. No matter how dire the situation is, we cannot expect that foreigners will always build things for us. And sometimes foreign contractors aren't much better either. Remember Ital Thai in elevated expressway? I'm sure there are more like this.

Your assessment may be correct if the unit values of our export products keep on increasing by 3% annually because of the continuously diminished value of the US dollar. But, has it ever happened, is it happening now or will it happen in the near future? Have the international buyers ever considered that they should add a 3% premium every year to the base price of their import?

So, we will get almost the same amount of dollar for exporting a fixed volume of goods. If so, I do not see a cheaper dollar has any meaning when we pay back the loan.
Well our exports did increase more than 3% annually on average if we take the last 10 years. Remittance we get increased much more than that. The worry here is more about increasing imports than loans right now. Ideally for a country like ours, exports should be more than imports. But that's not possible as of now.
 
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Well our exports did increase more than 3% annually on average if we take the last 10 years.
Did I ever talk of increasing the export volume? I talked about the increase in the unit prices of our export goods. The westerners are not willing to pay an extra cent when they negotiate the unit prices.

Volume has nothing to do with the tackling of dollar depreciation. Of course, you get double money if you export double. It is the increase in unit prices of our export goods by 3% every year that counts. Only this is how we will get the same amount of dollar as the previous year although the dollar depreciates by 3% (actually 2.7%).
 
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Kindly study about CPEC properly, it is most strategic safe route for energy supply and transportation of goods.

Not exactly as simple as you make it to be dude.

Vast majority of China's population resides on or near the South and East Coasts.
Let us look at the map below and distances from say Shanghai to Gwadar and Shanghai to
Arakan:

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As you can see the distance using CPEC is twice as long by road and rail as the one using Arakan.
Sea transportation will always be much cheaper than that using road and rail and so Chinese will try to avoid sending too much using the CPEC route.
CPEC was created to beef up Pakistan(vis-a-vis India) and also to give a 3rd option after Malacca and Arakan to transport Chinese goods and services to and from Europe, ME and Africa.
 
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Kindly study about CPEC properly, it is most strategic safe route for energy supply and transportation of goods.
It is what the Pakistanis are taught to think. Please read the map of China and Pakistan together, you will find Pakistan quite near to Tibet across Kashmir, but not entire China.

I do not think Gowaddar can ever substitute Malacca route/Shanghai because the former is too far away even from the central and western Tibet region. The central part of China to its south such as eastern Tibet and Kunming can be better served by a port in Burmese part of the Bay of Bengal.
 
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