Too bad you didn't read what the conversation was about before butting in.
Oh trust me I did. I read this as well, stank of hypocrisy.
Maintaining arms superiority so others can't but do as you wish isn't peace, it's tyranny.
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Too bad you didn't read what the conversation was about before butting in.
Maintaining arms superiority so others can't but do as you wish isn't peace, it's tyranny.
Or what will happen?
I'll get the entert
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Who cares about "regional dominance"?
All I want is for China to be strong enough to protect itself, and strong enough to protect our shipping lanes and our resource routes.
That is already a big goal by itself. Let us reach that point first, no point looking too far ahead into the future.
That's nice. But military and economic goals tend to intermingle.
I think the Chinese leadership does.
That's nice. But military and economic goals tend to intermingle.
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You have the right vision but the wrong attitude. You say your want a planet in which humans just accept their difference yet you place your own white race (Americans, Russians) higher in your trust despite the two fighting a deadly Cold War that threatened your Europe into a nuclear Slag. After the Americans prevailed, they became the biggest imperialists and proclaimed Rome-like right to invade any country it chooses. Despite such sorry history of militarism, you believe they are better leaders.
In fact, China, with its foreign policy of noninterference and peaceful rise, should be your ideal candidate for the global leader who "just accept their little differences and not practice wars", unlike the interventionist Americans or the insecure Russians. Sadly, your thinly disguised racism rears its ugly head. Chinese leaders are not arrogant: they are hard-working and humble and a thousand times better than the treatment they receive in the cynical Western media. Muslims are not xenophobes, they are brave people groaning under the yoke of Western Imperialism. Their hatred for the West is a reaction to their powerlessness in the face of your injustice. How many hundreds of billions of dollars in infrastructure destroyed in Iraq? How many Palestinians killed my American supplied weapons?
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According to the official statements from the Chinese leadership, China does not seek regional hegemony. Whether or not you believe that, is up to you. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I wouldn't say that it is "nice". Personally, I would say that it is 100% self-interest.
Over-extending ourselves is bad business, bad economics, bad politics, etc. China benefits enormously from the current economic status quo, best to just continue on this path.
Exactly right.
Who cares about "regional dominance"?
All I want is for China to be strong enough to protect itself, and strong enough to protect our shipping lanes and our resource routes.That is already a big goal by itself. Let us reach that point first, no point looking too far ahead into the future.
Huh?
As i've said earlier, by all means China, go be a regional leader. Lead with kindness.
Just don't start thinking you can dominate large parts of the rest of the world.
You're about to take over as the world's largest economy, don't fall into the trap of arrogance.
And I doubt China would let terror training camps continue to exist if those muslim "freedomfighters" (whom i call xenophobes) had picked China as the source of all Evil. They just happened to pick the USA and it's allies, i'm still not sure why exactly. Could be that we had more interaction with them as we buy their oil, or even (as they've stated) the fact that we support Israel's right to exist.
Protect shipping lanes and resource routes from whom? Pirates? The US certainly isn't looking for a war with China, and if China isn't looking for the same then there should be no fear of US blockades. What threat is there to China's trading routes if there is no expectation of war with the US?
What of China claiming the South China Sea? is that considered protecting shipping lanes and resource routes?
To me, what you say is a verbose way of saying you want China to be regionally dominant at least.
The US certainly isn't looking for a war with China, and if China isn't looking for the same then there should be no fear of US blockades.
Protect shipping lanes and resource routes from whom? Pirates? The US certainly isn't looking for a war with China, and if China isn't looking for the same then there should be no fear of US blockades. What threat is there to China's trading routes if there is no expectation of war with the US?
What of China claiming the South China Sea? is that considered protecting shipping lanes and resource routes?
To me, what you say is a verbose way of saying you want China to be regionally dominant at least.
accidental quick reply, don't mind it.
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Really many members of the US intelligence community (non political and nonpartisan ones) have mentioned that the PLA's goals seem mainly to be in support of economic policy.