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Uncertainty in Bangladesh ("incredible amount of anti-India feeling within BD")

BD hasn't compromised anything substantial to harm her interests. If she is lenient toward India, she has the reason to do so.

We give away lot to Russian just because of gratitude though we have better options.

Friendship and slavery are 2 different things.

Our economic growth is because of our businessmen...We saw similar growth during last BNP tenure.....guess which party most businessmen in BD support(hint:not the socialist one).....AL has successfully killed military officers as a revenge fr what happened in 1975.....AL has thrown the country off-balance with its totalitarian attitude....it has killed and made opposition leaders disappear in thin air....it has killed loads of regular innocent people just to discredit BNP.....it has illegally given tenders for buying buses,railway engines,gas exploration to a certain country(guess which one it is) ignoring better and more capable companies and countries which would have been better for our trade interests just for their and their master's personal interest.
We don't have to do much...they'll just walk towards India(they won't be shot at or mistaken for terrorists)....otherwise put em on a boat and send them to your coast....no worries!

It's actually AL's master has had the revenge and AL enjoyed, AL doesn't have the capability to do so. I still remember indian defence minister's statement after 2001 border conflict about Pillkhana. Finally that happened but by backstabbing.....only cowards take that path.
 
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That's BS.

1-Do we have free transit even after having a full control for 4 decades? Whats wrong in seeking a transit for what India has done for you guys, and we dont think we are asking it for free. We do help BD in many other ways.
2-So if we don't control you to "claimed" extent, you will allow foreign powers to invade India using your land? Do you believe India wants to use BD land to run offensive against china?



You are overestimating BD. :lol:


From 72 on until now india has been enjoying Water Protocol in BD under which india uses river ways to transport goods to NE totally free of cost. We've been helping poor india since then and in return currently there are 53 dams on rivers entering BD built by india. I won't go long because I know your mindset for acceptance of the fact. By the way, BD doesn't take any help from india rather it helps.

Will do..
you should also resume drinking goumutra.. cheers!!


Hey..stop attacking on religious line.
 
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Good. So Bangladeshis must now be getting to know the true face of India.


Maybe , but at least we haven't killed 3 million of then like you guys did. That's something only you guys can accomplish.
 
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Maybe , but at least we haven't killed 3 million of then like you guys did. That's something only you guys can accomplish.
at least they are not repeating lies, clinically denying actual atrocities or being distorted enough to make up rape stories to serve a hatefilled political end and for kicks
 
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violence unleashed by hindus of this subcontinent is well documented historical fact and I am aware of it. Such tendency for violence in religious nut-jobs does not surprise me, after all these people are told at their very young age about the superiority of their glorifying cast system which is still available in the name of their religion is a tradition in their belief system. The outcome is predictable.

*** Sorry other hindu pdf members, i did not mean to hurt your feelings, but this idiot is pushing me, i am just teaching him lesson and i will teach him what happened in both religion and why did happen, is it about religion or something else but first he need some proper bashing. A Elite member with over 8,000 posts, i expected more educated response, some one did not give you proper religious education. there is a phrase- empty thing sounds loud.
what is current situation now....from video and picture it seems Awami supporter is more aggressive this time
 
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you guys will be fked up with this policy, keep it mind only few ppl do politics in bangladesh. What are you doing purely against majority of bangladeshis.

I agree. India's approach has been very immature. Some things couldn't really be helped though. Federal Govt was all for signing the Teesta Accord , but the old hag ( Mamata ) messed it up.
at least they are not repeating lies, clinically denying actual atrocities or being distorted enough to make up rape stories to serve a hatefilled political end and for kicks


No one makes rape stories you Moron. If anything , rapes are under-reported due to incompetence of the police , political ends and because of reluctance of women to come forward. There's enough rapes out there and no one needs to make up anything.
 
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I agree. India's approach has been very immature. Some things couldn't really be helped though. Federal Govt was all for signing the Teesta Accord , but the old hag ( Mamata ) messed it up.



No one makes rape stories you Moron. If anything , rapes are under-reported due to incompetence of the police , political ends and because of reluctance of women to come forward. There's enough rapes out there and no one needs to make up anything.
except indians and with a practice called adding-of-zeros
 
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India can not allow BNP and Jamat those were supported terrorism in NE states.

As simple as that.

That is not your state my friend let me remind you that that is a separate country you are talking about and if your army is useless to perform their duty than you can't put blame on others. Please improve your border security and don't try to dictate some one
 
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That is not your state my friend let me remind you that that is a separate country you are talking about and if your army is useless to perform their duty than you can't put blame on others. Please improve your border security and don't try to dictate some one
Since India "owns" BD as per the opinions of many Bangladeshis here...I guess its only logical that it can dictate.

On a serious note though:

@Anubis : India's foreign policy has never been mature. There have been lapses everywhere over the years. We have never had that much political will. India could have molded Bangladesh in a much much better way. Its a squandered opportunity!
NE could have been so much better.

My opinion is entirely guided my economics and development issues.
No matter how much muscle flexing India does now....its just a bit too late!
 
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Since India "owns" BD as per the opinions of many Bangladeshis here...I guess its only logical that it can dictate.

On a serious note though:

@Anubis : India's foreign policy has never been mature. There have been lapses everywhere over the years. We have never had that much political will. India could have molded Bangladesh in a much much better way. Its a squandered opportunity!
NE could have been so much better.

My opinion is entirely guided my economics and development issues.
No matter how much muscle flexing India does now....its just a bit too late!
India could not have molded BD in any better or worse way....Bangladesh is running its natural course....Its not only India's foreign policy....India's internal policies also have a lot of cracks and holes in them...thus the disparities and dissatisfaction in NE etc.etc....Bangladesh is different from Bhutan or Nepal...it has a different history.....it came out of a different background....and that history and background shapes how people view India and the world....Although India's foreign policy is exceptionally immature for a country of such economic caliber....you just banned the US embassy from having movie nights in a club in reply to arresting your deputy consular....could have handled it a in a much better way!
 
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No...I did not say India bribed everyone.....AL did put its lackies in key position....And its nothing new.....They have done it before....but last time Al did what it is doing now they made a totalitarian socialist regime called BAKSHAL in 71....and it collapsed in 75....I just hope we don't see that again...India does support AL for its own interests....but now apparently the West isn't on the same side with India!oh and btw...the Salman Khurshid dude is an idiot!

Congratulations, you have now won over countless Hindu nationalists as your fans =D

@Anubis they will be confused as hell. 'Wait, I hate those darned Bengali Muslims,but he insulted a congress Muslim'

Malfunction! Malfunction!
 
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Another pro-India Bangladeshi declaring a note of caution for their Indian "friends" (or is it Masters). The article have many false statements, identifying the writers clear bias.

Why India should rethink its Bangladesh policy | Dhaka Tribune

Created on January 9, 2014 at 00:57
Why India should rethink its Bangladesh policy
Shafquat Rabbee Anik

Unlike in most democracies, Bangladeshis have regularly given their blood for protecting their right to vote
  • Manmohan-singh12.jpg

    Photo- PID
Any Indian reading this article should go to YouTube and do a search on “police brutality in Bangladesh.” Then they should watch some of the videos found at the top of the search. This should provide an idea of how, according to Ain o Salish Kendra, an average of 1.5 Bangladeshis a day have been killed in political violence, many by police bullets, in 2013.

About 500 have died, with countless others injured. These are merely official numbers, yet they are the highest in Bangladesh’s 42-year history. Needless to say, the majority of the wounded and dead are opposition activists, protesting actions of the most India-friendly government in the history of Bangladesh.

When the videos and the statistics sink in, Indian readers should try to understand the following: Bangladeshis have become increasingly pro-India in their outlooks over the last three decades. Unlike Pakistan, where there is hardly any political party who can express pro-India sentiments, the Awami League and its allies are openly pro-India. Their electoral popularity should be within 35% to 45% of the population, depending on which ally is in, according to the average of the last several elections.

Then you have Bangladesh’s other large political party, BNP, whose standalone electoral popularity should be similar: Around 35% to 40%. BNP’s leadership was increasingly looking forward to improve ties with India. BNP, for almost the last decade, refrained from resorting to anti-India rhetoric, which used to be a staple of the party’s political communication during the 80s and 90s.

The Islamic parties of Bangladesh, who on a combined basis won less than 5% of the national vote, are probably predominantly anti-India. However, given their size, they are likely to be governed by one of the two major political parties of Bangladesh. If India plays its cards of regional influence over the major parties fair and square, it is more than likely that both the major parties will happily address India’s legitimate security concerns in Bangladesh, to say the least.

Although Bangladeshis are very proud of their religious (read Muslim), ethnic (read Bengali), and independent (read 1971 war) identity, the majority of them enjoy Hindi movies, soap operas, music, and many are fluent in the Hindi language. A large portion of the population supports the Indian cricket team. In a nutshell, Bangladesh is by no means hostile territory for Indians, with or without India’s favourite political party in power.

Now contrast that India-friendly social backdrop with the following recent trends: The vast majority of Bangladeshis now believe that India is the lone back-up for the government of Sheikh Hasina and her farce of an election, which was boycotted by all the opposition parties.

Taking matters to the next step, a majority of the Bangladeshi population now believe that based on India’s assurances alone, Sheikh Hasina has sent almost the entire opposition political leadership to jail. She sent the leader of the third largest political party General Ershad, who is also known to be pro-Indian, into a peculiar hospital confinement with golfing facilities.

And Begum Khaleda Zia is in house confinement. The entire senior leadership of the Jamaat-e-Islami, the largest Islamist party in Bangladesh, is in far worse shape. They will be lucky to be alive for more than a year, as most of them are awaiting death sentences to be handed out by a special tribunal, with one already executed. In short, as matters stand, for the first time in Bangladesh’s political history, the entire opposition leadership is praying hard to be simply alive and free.

Taking matters further, many in Bangladesh now believe in the following grave accusations: India is behind the day to day security protection of certain Bangladeshi leaders. India is carrying out stealth operations inside Bangladesh wearing Bangladeshi forces’ dresses. India has trained and sent special operations teams in Bangladesh. India is lobbying Western countries to take Sheikh Hasina’s side.

The above list of anti-India accusations are ever-increasing, and cannot be brushed aside anymore. In fact, it is now common practice among the entire opposition bloc and talking heads on television to find an Indian hand behind almost all the political misadventures of Sheikh Hasina and the AL.

Please note: The above is not the perception coming from some fringe element of Bangladeshi society. People with very credible backgrounds are joining the ring.

Considering the depth of these accusations, which are increasingly getting prominence, a fair conclusion for Indians will be that anti-Indianism of historic proportions is on the rise in Bangladesh. This cannot be, by any standard, welcome news for Indian business policy, geo-strategy, or for that matter, counter-terrorism matters related to Bangladesh.

Bangladesh may now officially enter the hall-of-shame of countries known as “one party states.” And India, along with Sheikh Hasina and the AL, will share that blame, perhaps in front of a global audience. The gravity of this blame sharing must be understood from Bangladesh’s history. Unlike other Muslim-majority countries, Bangladesh has practiced multi-party elections going back over 40 years.


Indians, who were Bangladesh’s partners in its liberation war against Pakistan, should know very well that it was West Pakistan’s foolish reluctance to accept the all-Pakistan election results back in 1970. That foolish decision of West Pakistan to not honour the mandate of the East Pakistani voters eventually ended the existence of a united Pakistan on two sides of India.

As history suggests, Bangladeshis take elections and the democratic practice of voting very seriously. Unlike in most democracies, Bangladeshis have regularly given their blood for protecting their right to vote. Therefore, India should urgently rethink its policy in Bangladesh and align its policy with the rest of the world.
 
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Another pro-India Bangladeshi declaring a note of caution for their Indian "friends" (or is it Masters). The article have many false statements, identifying the writers clear bias.

Why India should rethink its Bangladesh policy | Dhaka Tribune

Created on January 9, 2014 at 00:57
Why India should rethink its Bangladesh policy
Shafquat Rabbee Anik

Unlike in most democracies, Bangladeshis have regularly given their blood for protecting their right to vote
  • Manmohan-singh12.jpg

    Photo- PID
Any Indian reading this article should go to YouTube and do a search on “police brutality in Bangladesh.” Then they should watch some of the videos found at the top of the search. This should provide an idea of how, according to Ain o Salish Kendra, an average of 1.5 Bangladeshis a day have been killed in political violence, many by police bullets, in 2013.

About 500 have died, with countless others injured. These are merely official numbers, yet they are the highest in Bangladesh’s 42-year history. Needless to say, the majority of the wounded and dead are opposition activists, protesting actions of the most India-friendly government in the history of Bangladesh.

When the videos and the statistics sink in, Indian readers should try to understand the following: Bangladeshis have become increasingly pro-India in their outlooks over the last three decades. Unlike Pakistan, where there is hardly any political party who can express pro-India sentiments, the Awami League and its allies are openly pro-India. Their electoral popularity should be within 35% to 45% of the population, depending on which ally is in, according to the average of the last several elections.

Then you have Bangladesh’s other large political party, BNP, whose standalone electoral popularity should be similar: Around 35% to 40%. BNP’s leadership was increasingly looking forward to improve ties with India. BNP, for almost the last decade, refrained from resorting to anti-India rhetoric, which used to be a staple of the party’s political communication during the 80s and 90s.

The Islamic parties of Bangladesh, who on a combined basis won less than 5% of the national vote, are probably predominantly anti-India. However, given their size, they are likely to be governed by one of the two major political parties of Bangladesh. If India plays its cards of regional influence over the major parties fair and square, it is more than likely that both the major parties will happily address India’s legitimate security concerns in Bangladesh, to say the least.

Although Bangladeshis are very proud of their religious (read Muslim), ethnic (read Bengali), and independent (read 1971 war) identity, the majority of them enjoy Hindi movies, soap operas, music, and many are fluent in the Hindi language. A large portion of the population supports the Indian cricket team. In a nutshell, Bangladesh is by no means hostile territory for Indians, with or without India’s favourite political party in power.

Now contrast that India-friendly social backdrop with the following recent trends: The vast majority of Bangladeshis now believe that India is the lone back-up for the government of Sheikh Hasina and her farce of an election, which was boycotted by all the opposition parties.

Taking matters to the next step, a majority of the Bangladeshi population now believe that based on India’s assurances alone, Sheikh Hasina has sent almost the entire opposition political leadership to jail. She sent the leader of the third largest political party General Ershad, who is also known to be pro-Indian, into a peculiar hospital confinement with golfing facilities.

And Begum Khaleda Zia is in house confinement. The entire senior leadership of the Jamaat-e-Islami, the largest Islamist party in Bangladesh, is in far worse shape. They will be lucky to be alive for more than a year, as most of them are awaiting death sentences to be handed out by a special tribunal, with one already executed. In short, as matters stand, for the first time in Bangladesh’s political history, the entire opposition leadership is praying hard to be simply alive and free.

Taking matters further, many in Bangladesh now believe in the following grave accusations: India is behind the day to day security protection of certain Bangladeshi leaders. India is carrying out stealth operations inside Bangladesh wearing Bangladeshi forces’ dresses. India has trained and sent special operations teams in Bangladesh. India is lobbying Western countries to take Sheikh Hasina’s side.

The above list of anti-India accusations are ever-increasing, and cannot be brushed aside anymore. In fact, it is now common practice among the entire opposition bloc and talking heads on television to find an Indian hand behind almost all the political misadventures of Sheikh Hasina and the AL.

Please note: The above is not the perception coming from some fringe element of Bangladeshi society. People with very credible backgrounds are joining the ring.

Considering the depth of these accusations, which are increasingly getting prominence, a fair conclusion for Indians will be that anti-Indianism of historic proportions is on the rise in Bangladesh. This cannot be, by any standard, welcome news for Indian business policy, geo-strategy, or for that matter, counter-terrorism matters related to Bangladesh.

Bangladesh may now officially enter the hall-of-shame of countries known as “one party states.” And India, along with Sheikh Hasina and the AL, will share that blame, perhaps in front of a global audience. The gravity of this blame sharing must be understood from Bangladesh’s history. Unlike other Muslim-majority countries, Bangladesh has practiced multi-party elections going back over 40 years.


Indians, who were Bangladesh’s partners in its liberation war against Pakistan, should know very well that it was West Pakistan’s foolish reluctance to accept the all-Pakistan election results back in 1970. That foolish decision of West Pakistan to not honour the mandate of the East Pakistani voters eventually ended the existence of a united Pakistan on two sides of India.

As history suggests, Bangladeshis take elections and the democratic practice of voting very seriously. Unlike in most democracies, Bangladeshis have regularly given their blood for protecting their right to vote. Therefore, India should urgently rethink its policy in Bangladesh and align its policy with the rest of the world.

The majority of the people now squarely blame India for the killings in Pilkhana. Whats the point of killing 70 hostages if you want to make a ransom demand , moreover its not easy to break the chain of command much less killing senior officers.
 
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