UN wants consensual sex decriminalised in Pakistan

[Desert Fox]

Brother, that healthy segment will be labelled as extremist radical Islamist mullahs, who are a danger to the "civilized world" and will be culled like dogs. The whole world will stand beside the "liberals" and the UN will pass a resolution supporting military intervention to help the "oppressed" liberals of Pakistan. We cannot win the war of narrative since it is they and the taghoot which controls the media especially the US and Western media.
They have seemingly unlimited funds...Just look at the fact that even small European countries like Norway and Denmark pour funds in Pakistan to promote "liberalism". We kicked out a couple of their "NGOs", not enough.
We are losing the war of narratives. We see what happens here on pdf and in the Pakistani media, Ziaul Haq is still loathed by this self-proclaimed liberal faction, for he implemented certain reforms which hurt the "freedoms" of this pack.
Either you are with them or you are the evil mullah. There is no middle ground.
The guardians of law are themselves corrupt. At least law, culture and religion stop the filth from coming out of closed doors and into the streets. Most of the population is conservative, if these things are promoted then the resulting polarization in the society will lead to mob justice and chaos.

Unfortunately this is true.

Most of the population is conservative,

This is where I have hope. Majority of the people are still conservative and thus receptive to our ideas, therefore we already have an advantage over the subversive elements in our society.

The only thing is we only need to get our ideas to these people to show them what is going on and that they can push back against this encroaching degeneracy.

Also, social media is now more powerful than regular television media. The Alt-Right have proven this to be true. They were able to elect a president in the White House, enact policy changes, and cause panic amongst the Liberal Left. They did all of this, and more, all with the help of the internet. Why can't we do the same? In fact some of us like-minded people are already doing it on this forum. One person can start a blog to post on current events through conservative Pakistani perspective, another can open a conservative Pakistani radio podcast show, while another can open a YouTube channel where they expose the Liberal enemies of Pakistan for the traitors that they are, while another can create a forum (discord) where like-minded people can create memes for mass trolling campaigns, attacking these degenerates.

Unfortunately, some people want to give up and go "their own way" (@Metanoia @El Sidd ), but are we that weak that we will abandon the battle field and let the enemy win without a fight? I hope not. Especially when we have the home field advantage. The people are already sympathetic to our side.

And in west even tho sex is all free and common but man these goras have some of the worst stds where gential warts are the most common disease. There is another std whose name i forgot which renders women infertile as the infection is so bad.

There is actually a similar STD for men too that renders them infertile. Can't remember the name, but that should tell you how far-gone things are in this regards.

 

[Zibago]

Unfortunately this is true.


This is where I have hope. Majority of the people are still conservative and thus receptive to our ideas, therefore we already have an advantage of the subversive elements in our society.

The only thing is we only need to get our ideas to these people to show them what is going on and that they can push back against this encroaching degeneracy.

Also, social media is now more powerful than regular television media. The Alt-Right have proven this to be true. They were able to elect a president in the White House, enact policy changes, and cause panic amongst the Liberal Left. They did all of this, and more, all with the help of the internet. Why can't we do the same? In fact some of us like-minded people are already doing it on this forum. One person can start a blog to post on current events through conservative Pakistani perspective, another can open a conservative Pakistani radio podcast show, while another can open a YouTube channel where they expose the Liberal enemies of Pakistan for the traitors that they are, while another can create a forum (discord) where like-minded people can create memes for mass trolling campaigns, attacking these degenerates.

Unfortunately, some people want to give up and go "their own way" (@Metanoia @El Sidd ), but are we that weak that we will abandon the battle field and let the enemy win without a fight? I hope not. Especially when we have the home field advantage. The people are already sympathetic to our side.

So you think Pakistanis too will elect someone who wants to date his own daughter, is a bitch of Israel, India and brags about sexual assault?
The alt rigjt in US can never be replicated in Pakistan the rigjt in Pakistan comes in the shape of khadim rizvi and mullah burqa package and believes in pan Islamism they dont believe in nationalism

 

[GumNaam]

Folks, they plan and Allah plans, and Allah is the best of planners... so just live a good life according to the true spirit of The Qur'an and sunnah and worry not, In shaa Allah inki chavlain aur rollay laaray lappay kuch nahi kar sakte...

 

[Psychic]

Unfortunately this is true.


This is where I have hope. Majority of the people are still conservative and thus receptive to our ideas, therefore we already have an advantage of the subversive elements in our society.

The only thing is we only need to get our ideas to these people to show them what is going on and that they can push back against this encroaching degeneracy.

Also, social media is now more powerful than regular television media. The Alt-Right have proven this to be true. They were able to elect a president in the White House, enact policy changes, and cause panic amongst the Liberal Left. They did all of this, and more, all with the help of the internet. Why can't we do the same? In fact some of us like-minded people are already doing it on this forum. One person can start a blog to post on current events through conservative Pakistani perspective, another can open a conservative Pakistani radio podcast show, while another can open a YouTube channel where they expose the Liberal enemies of Pakistan for the traitors that they are, while another can create a forum (discord) where like-minded people can create memes for mass trolling campaigns, attacking these degenerates.

Unfortunately, some people want to give up and go "their own way" (@Metanoia @El Sidd ), but are we that weak that we will abandon the battle field and let the enemy win without a fight? I hope not. Especially when we have the home field advantage. The people are already sympathetic to our side.


There is actually a similar STD for men too that renders them infertile. Can remember the name, but that should tell you how far-gone things are in this regards.

We can take control using social media. But Trump is an @sshole. He is a wicked businessman who cashed the emotions of conservative Americans. It's still Israel who dominates US foriegn policy. Trump is no Kennedy.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Accepting concentual sexual relations is the most critical step in demeaning and nullifying "marriage" and "family" as a unit. Once 'any' concentual relationship is acceptable than the institution of family is meaningless because after that any qualifications as in the west make it an oxymoron. You cannot have open concent and family or rituals of marriage. Which perhaps is what these laws actually desire but in a drip so as to not shock ones whose moral compass is still intact and others who just 'feel' it not the 'right' thing to do.

 

[Desert Fox]

What one finds is that the simple village folk are on average a ton better than the city dwellers, many of whom are morally corrupt.

It must have to do with the congested living, ease of access to resources etc..

We can take control using social media. But Trump is an @sshole. He is a wicked businessman who cashed the emotions of conservative Americans. It's still Israel who dominates US foriegn policy. Trump is no Kennedy.

Of course he's not. But you'd much rather have a Trump than a NeoCon like Hillary.

And btw I'm no defender of Trump the personality. Personality wise Trump is a Liberal. He's degenerate, selfish, a capitalist, he supports gay marriage, etc...

But the point being is that many leftist Jews opposed Trump the phenomenon because of its symbology. If you were familiar with American politics you'd understand the proper context, particularly regarding American domestic politics. Maybe someday I'll make a post about it.

 

[Psychic]

The alt rigjt in US can never be replicated in Pakistan the rigjt in Pakistan comes in the shape of khadim rizvi and mullah burqa package and believes in pan Islamism they dont believe in nationalism

Barelvi scholars supported the creation of Pakistan. Deobandi and Shia scholars didn't.
Even Modudi migrated once Pakistan was formed and declared it as his home.
That's why Jamaat e Islami fought in the fields of Bengal for a united Pakistan when "liberals" were writing articles against the army and got prizes in India and Bangladesh. (Papas of Asima and Hamid)
That's why the religious people fought for Pakistan in Kashmir and gave their lives while the liberals were demanding to abandon Kashmir. The religious people still now and then send their men to fight in Kashmir for Ilhaq e Pakistan, because they are unpatriotic? While the liberals call them terrorists for fighting for the country.
If Pakistan faces any threat or occupation, only the religious lot will fight for the country and liberal mommy daddies will flee.

 

[I.R.A]

BC soyi udhar hi thukan thukayi par atki hy
@I.R.A

Decriminalize it ...... okay fine ....... but what positive would it bring to the society? Karo Kari would end? Wata sata would end? Child marriage would end? HIV would end? Rapes would end? Child sexual abuse would end? Dowry would end? Judges of Pakistan would grow more than two hands and multiple brains and all of a sudden decades long pending cases awaiting hearing and outcome would be decided? Police would become public servants? Doodh wala would become the most honest and pious person and stop mixing urea and pond's water?

The solution to everything is in vagina and its consensus (penis doesn't matter, most of the time its ready consent or no consent) ...... finally a world body has discovered it for us lowly backward Pakistanis. Accept and implement simple. But does it bring a magic wand with it .... this suggestion?

@I.R.A ab samajh aya usdin londee ka concept kion discuss Kia tha

Bill Clinton tried being funny with his modern day londee and the world reacted against his wishes.

Londee can never be an Islamic concept, in the sense ..... that it existed already and wasn't introduced by Islam. Islam tried abolishing it, but thanks to the perverts .... they latter invented hear say and brought it back.

wesay @I.R.A Kia kyalaat hain apka is concept ma ? @El Sidd can you refer to the thread ? If any

Rape and exploitation of a woman ........ that is what I think of londee.

The recommendations rejected by Pakistan included proposals for repeal of laws related to blasphemy and criminalising non-marital sexual relations, abolition of the death penalty, and bringing an end to the ongoing military operation in Balochistan.

That sums up the hypocrisy pretty much.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Barelvi scholars supported the creation of Pakistan. Deobandi and Shia scholars didn't.
Even Modudi migrated once Pakistan was formed and declared it as his home.
That's why Jamaat e Islami fought in the fields of Bengal for a united Pakistan when "liberals" were writing articles against the army and got prizes in India and Bangladesh. (Papas of Asima and Hamid)
That's why the religious people fought for Pakistan in Kashmir and gave their lives while the liberals were demanding to abandon Kashmir. The religious people still now and then send their men to fight in Kashmir for Ilhaq e Pakistan, because they are unpatriotic? While the liberals call them terrorists for fighting for the country.
If Pakistan faces any threat or occupation, only the religious lot will fight for the country and liberal mommy daddies will flee.

Bro, it is a huge misconception that the Deobandi/Salafi scholars did not support the Pakistan cause.

Many Deobandi-Salafi scholars supported the Pakistan cause.

 

[Psychic]

It must have to do with the congested living, ease of access to resources etc..

Many of them are way to naive to think about 420 stuff.
City people are wicked to the core. There is no purity or sincerity in most of em.

Bro, it is a huge misconception that the Deobandi/Salafi scholars did not support the Pakistan cause.

Many Deobandi-Salafi scholars supported the Pakistan cause.

I mean the majority.
Of course some like Shabbir Usmani who offered the funeral prayers of Quaid was a deobandi who was staunchly pro-Pakistan.

 

[MultaniGuy]

The only reason Maududi did not support the Pakistan cause initially is because he thought Pakistan would not be an Islamic country.

@Psychic

 

[Yaseen1]

already there is no action in Pakistan against such acts so u.n not need to be worried.they not understand this fact that people here abstain from such acts not because of law but only fear of ALLAH ALMIGHTY.you cannot remove this fear by changing law as it is religious order and deep rooted in people

 

[MultaniGuy]

@Psychic , even many prominent Muslims said the creation of Pakistan was a blessing. Without Pakistan, there would be no Muslim country with nuclear weapons, because all other Muslim countries signed the NPT Treaty.

 

[Desert Fox]

Many of them are way to naive to think about 420 stuff.
City people are wicked to the core. There is no purity or sincerity in most of em.

Apparently Iqbal met Mussolini in which he gave him the following advice:

"During the course of the meeting Mussolini asked Iqbal, “What you except we Italians to do?” Dr. Iqbal replied, “Europe has left with no moral values. Stop blindly following Europe and learn lessons from the East.”

When Mussolini requested Dr. Iqbal to give some exceptional suggestion for him, Iqbal advised, “Don’t allow overcrowding of the cities. Limit the size of the population of a city and after that limit instead of allowing them to settle there, create new settlements and cities for them.”

Bemused, Mussolini requested Iqbal to elaborate further. Iqbal said, “As population of a city increases, its moral values and economic power start waning. Worst, immoral activities start challenging the culturalstrength.”

Mussolini looked towards the Indian Great in disbelief for a moment but in the next moment stood from his chair and shouted withexcitement, “What an excellent idea!”"

Source: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iqbal-and-mussolini.246700/

"Iqbal left for Italy. There he visited historical places and met some prominent figures, including Mussolini."

https://www.dawn.com/news/1077184

 

[Psychic]

@Psychic , even many prominent Muslims said the creation of Pakistan was a blessing. Without Pakistan, there would be no Muslim country with nuclear weapons, because all other Muslim countries signed the NPT Treaty.

Many scholars of Deobandi and Shia schools of thought in the sub-continent did not support the creation of Pakistan. Some supported after it came into being like Modudi.