ULFA urges Dhaka to 'stop crackdown’

[Hulk]

Now what this supposed to be translated into :wtf:

He means if you take NE out of India, India is dead. NE looks like chicken head in map.

 

[Hulk]

If you say "can play" it mean we can cut of whole chicken neck and
separate NE from main part of india. But if you asked me what role
we should play than I say neutral. We have plan for chicken neck long
time and it is a 40km corridor. It will be heard for us but if you take
the side of chineese, chicken is dead.

Honestly speaking peacful neighbor's are good for each other, even if one gains more from it. If you help anyone plot against us, it will not be good for you as well. There will not be any seperation of India without a few million dead (believe me).

I am thankful to your current government, it seems sensible to me.

 

[eastwatch]

And im assuming that the Pakistani premier has himself confided in you that incase of an Indo-Chinese war, they would jump in?
The way you are talking about being 'rest assured', i assume you know things that others don't.

Puh lease, this dont let your fantasies take control of reality.

Pak PM did not tell you too that Pakistan will not take any advantage in an China-India war.Considering their mindset and the Kashmir issue at hand, why do you think it will not do so?

A reader of your post will see that you have been gripped with fear at the thought of such an assault by Pakistan. Because the outcome will be very difficult for India to swallow. You lose two big chunks of land at two different ends.

 

[TopCat]

Pak PM did not tell you too that Pakistan will not take any advantage in an China-India war.Considering their mindset and the Kashmir issue at hand, why do you think it will not do so?

A reader of your post will see that you have been gripped with fear at the thought of such an assault by Pakistan. Because the outcome will be very difficult for India to swallow. You lose two big chunks of land at two different ends.

I can guarantee you Pakistan would be waiting for that opportune moment. And once three nuclear armed nation starts fighting each other nobody on Gods planet will come close to 100 miles. Everybody will be waiting and asking India to leave its disputed teritorry only to avert more damages.

 

[Stumper]

Everybody will be waiting and asking India to leave its disputed teritorry only to avert more damages.

Are you sure mate?... Uncle Sam did quite opposite during Kargil . Anyway ... your point does not make any sense even if i were to do what-if analysis ... Why will the so called "World" pile on ONLY india?

As per ground reality, neither China or India can afford any direct hostility. Both have too much to loose (in financial terms) and both have mature government in place as of now.... War with Pakistan is a "Maybe" scenario.

 

[eastwatch]

Are you sure mate?... Uncle Sam did quite opposite during Kargil :

1) Anyway ... your point does not make any sense even if i were to do what-if analysis ... Why will the so called "World" pile on ONLY india?

2) As per ground reality, neither China or India can afford any direct hostility. Both have too much to loose (in financial terms) and both have mature government in place as of now.... War with Pakistan is a "Maybe" scenario.

1) World will press on India to vacate from the two occupied chunks of foreign lands. And ULFA will go after the rest of NE.

2) Yes, you should hope that there is no China-Pakistan alliance against India, because it will then become a decisive war.

Do not depend upon the Himalayas for protection. China cannot come down during winter, but it can certainly do so in other seasons. So, you better plan your defense in that line. Mobilize troops in the NE, and make sure NE can be resupplied through the chicken neck. But, I think the defense prospect is quite bleak.

 

[leonblack08]

ULFA threatens severe consequences if Dhaka doesn't change policy

Faisal Rahim

The war game is spreading in this part of the world, the latest being Bangladesh coming closer to the battle grounds when India is taking on ULFA insurgency.
Not only the country's infrastructures and important business and communication installations may become targets of ULFA insurgents in case the Bangladesh government is not changing its policy of capturing their leaders to hand over them to India who may be in hiding here for security reasons. Strategic analysts apprehend that the Bengali-speaking people of Assam who once migrated there, may also become their targets.
The insurgent leaders made no secret of the ultimate fall out as some newspaper reports here said last week quoting the outfit commander-in-chief Poresh Barua who talked about 'severe consequences' for Bangladesh in case it is not changing its actions and policies towards what he said the 'freedom struggle' of the state of Assam.
Bangladesh home minister Shahara Khatun said the government is ready to face any challenge coming from the outfits. But people here wonder that how she can make such a statement unless only the government is committed to become part of the Indian strategic game.
But analysts wonder whether the government is at all mindful of the severe consequences that may fall out on the Bengaladesh origin people of Assam, in addition to a wider hit list that they may have inside Bangladesh. Paresh Barua in his statement said Bangladesh very soon would see the impact of its 'wrongdoings'.
What is interesting is that though the ULFA leaders are talking about specific consequences and even the Prime Minister's visit to Delhi has apparently been deferred to recheck the security arrangement as threat is coming from the insurgent group, the inspector general of police last week told reporters that there is no authentic information of any such threats to the nation.

Double standard

Besides, the analysts feel that the government is playing double standard, because important government functionaries at various levels including Shahara Khatun are consistently denying any official involvement in capturing and handing over top insurgent leaders to Indian authorities.
The obvious question that agitated the public mind is how such captures like the recent arrest of ULFA chairman Arabinda Rajkhowa or such other arrests of some top insurgent leaders last month took place in Bangladesh and their transfer to the Indian authorities.
Here the Indian security agents may have either done these themselves in collaboration with the government agencies or the authorities are hiding facts and events that may provoke serious reaction.
The Indian northeast provided food and shelter to several million fleeing Bangalees during the Bangladesh Liberation War in 1971. The people of neighbouring states like Assam and Tripura had helped Bangladeshis much which the people here remember and top ULFA leaders have pointedly mentioned. But Delhi is now extending its new battlefront on Bangladesh soil which is basically an Indian war with its own insurgents; and the government here is abiding by it endangering Bangladesh's security.

Impact on economy

India seems to be working now to fight her insurgents creating trouble here by using its local agents to provoke ULFA insurgents to take on Bangladesh as part of a move to destroy both Bangladesh as a growing economic power and ULFA insurgents and other resistance groups thus passing the gun from its own shoulder to Bangladesh's shoulder.
The government may be calculating that such military collaboration with Indian authorities may one day bring Indian military into Bangladesh to crush the imaginary presence of ULFA bases.
With every passing day the situation is aggravating as the government is moving with it personal agenda to crush domestic opposition. The people here fear a new front will only bring new trouble in the region for which only innocent people will have to pay a heavy price of political illusion of some leaders who can not see anything beyond the Indian horizons.

HOLIDAY > FRONT PAGE

 

[scrumpy]

For every one who advocates letting ULFA and their friends from continuing to operate with relative freedom in Bangladesh. Are you blind ?

Look at what is happening in Pakistan right now. Do you want a group of armed men in your country plotting war in a neighbouring country? These threats sound very similar to what the Taliban were issuing to the Pakistani government.

You cannot change your neighbours. Bangladesh's best chance of having peace and maintaining its own integrity is by having good relations with its largest neighbour.

 

[Nemesis]

Dear Indian members,

There are a lot of people in Bangladesh who seem to hate India. This should not worry us. If we start hating them back, they would cease to exist.

Some members on the forum are like toddlers screaming for attention - perhaps because they realise that their nation is merely a fly on our wall. Leave them to their temper tantrums. Our only response should be of bemusement.

- A raw trained hindu-zionist agent.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

As per ground reality, neither China or India can afford any direct hostility. Both have too much to loose (in financial terms) and both have mature government in place as of now.... War with Pakistan is a "Maybe" scenario.

The financial and trade argument against war was the biggest fallacy before the 1st Word War.

 

[idune]

As I had written earlier this awami stooge govt is taking up indian fight and dragging Bangladeshi people and security forces in indian internal conflict. As some report already indicated indian rouge elements are already operating inside Bangladesh with Awami govt blessing, this uncalled threat issued by awami govt will further invite indian intervention and interference.

 

[Jako]

World saw what happenned when pakistan harvested a similar rogue force-taliban to destabilize neighbours......can bangladesh afford such a situation???

 

[Contrarian]

1) World will press on India to vacate from the two occupied chunks of foreign lands. And ULFA will go after the rest of NE.

Why the hell would the world not be pressing on Pakistan to let things be, or China to not start the war...
You assume, only India will be pressured.

2) Yes, you should hope that there is no China-Pakistan alliance against India, because it will then become a decisive war.

Since kingdom come, India has prepared for a 2 front war. Its not something your dreaming up now, India has always geared up its military to fight a defensive war in the North East and an offensive one in the West.

Its not something new, so its hardly going to be a 'decisive war'. Again, you did not know this fact.

Do not depend upon the Himalayas for protection. China cannot come down during winter, but it can certainly do so in other seasons. So, you better plan your defense in that line. Mobilize troops in the NE, and make sure NE can be resupplied through the chicken neck. But, I think the defense prospect is quite bleak.

Tanks, and and else cant come through the Himalayas regardless of the season. In winters, even troop movement becomes a challenge. So any war in the North East is limited to a skirmish.

I and most other defense experts would say the defense prospect is quite strong.

You keep projecting what you might like as what could happen, but reality is far from it.

 

[idune]

Look at what is happening in Pakistan right now. Do you want a group of armed men in your country plotting war in a neighbouring country? These threats sound very similar to what the Taliban were issuing to the Pakistani government.

As with indian tradition of deception and lie, you did not fall far from indian root. There is and was NO armed men or ULFA operation from inside Bangladesh. So equate political leaders of ULFA taking refuge from indian repression and military agression with completely unrelated scenario in another region is just sheer indian propaganda spin.

Indians should ask why india provided shelter to Dali Lama?????? What was indian excuse??? Although india has broder goal against China, moral of the ground reality is Assam was one of the places where people extended help during our independence struggle and it is only natural that people in Bangladesh would have moral and political support for Assamese independence struggle.

 

[eastwatch]

As I had written earlier this awami stooge govt is taking up indian fight and dragging Bangladeshi people and security forces in indian internal conflict. As some report already indicated indian rouge elements are already operating inside Bangladesh with Awami govt blessing, this uncalled threat issued by awami govt will further invite indian intervention and interference.

You are right on track on this issue. India wants BD to take joint actions against ULFA and has been insisting on joint exercise of forces. Only one military exercise was held in India as far as I know. But, due to Pilkhana BDR revolt at that time, it was downsized.

Now, by handing over the ULFA leaders, BD govt has intentionally made BD an ULFA target. So, when there is an ULFA attack on BD assets, this govt will come out with a very good excuse to participate in joint military actions against that outfit.

ULFA/Assam is India's problem, why BD military should involve itself in this kind of expedition? It seems AL govt is willingly submitting itself to an Indian wish. But, it may turn out to be our own death wish.