Ukraine to Deliver 110 Battle Tank Engines to Pakistan

[fatman17]

But Pakistan seems to be using tank made by China...I may be wrong..then why do you need it from Ukraine?

design is chinese but engine and power-pack is from ukraine. electronics are western.

 

[Thorough Pro]

you forgot your governments 60 year lap dancing to Russia....LOL

My impression is that India does not have any close friend in like Pakistan has like China...So India want to keep a balance by maintaining close defence relation with multiple vendor....I may be wrong in my assessment too...

 

[Argus Panoptes]

So why not copy it in our own industry just like china...............

Making copies starts with simpler smaller engines, and only then can move to complex bigger engines like those in tanks.

 

[Last Hope]

Why not get license manufecturing?

Why not TOT???

We should have our engine program started now

You can make engines for tanks, or planes. But both are very crucial in the field and you need reliability. One guesses why PAF operates RD-93 and looking for better RD-93 variants over WS-13. Pakistan can start developing both engines, indigenous or ToT but it will take a decade before you are mature and reliable to be send forward to frontline.

 

[True pakistani 22]

Very good news
hopefully soon we will see Al Khalid-2

 

[UmarJustice]

Ukraine's firm signs $50m contract with Pakistan

LAHORE - Ukraine's state arms exporter Ukrspecexport has signed a contract with Pakistan for the supply of 110 engine units for tanks. The value of the contract, which will be implemented at the facilities of Kharkiv's Malyshev Plant for over four years, exceeds $50 million.Acting Director General of Ukrspecexport Vadym Kozhevnikov said this at the IDEX 2013 defense exhibition in Abu Dhabi.

Kozhevnikov said that more than 300 engine units for the Al-Khalid tank, which were produced at the plant in Kharkiv, had already been supplied to Pakistan. Furthermore, such engine units are currently being supplied to China. The company's acting deputy director general expressed hope that new agreements would be signed. He added that the company was negotiating with several countries in the Middle East.

Ukraine's firm signs $50m contract with Pakistan | The Nation

 

[SEAL]

@nabil_05

What you think bro are they same 1200hp engines or 1400hp?

 

[IndoUS]

You can make engines for tanks, or planes. But both are very crucial in the field and you need reliability. One guesses why PAF operates RD-93 and looking for better RD-93 variants over WS-13. Pakistan can start developing both engines, indigenous or ToT but it will take a decade before you are mature and reliable to be send forward to frontline.

Well you gotta start somewhere if you start today then 10 years down the line you would have an operational engine that you could use your own engine rather than the buying from a foreign country which would cut down on the cost and generate jobs. So at this point the government or MoD of Pakistan should start at creating the base for the engine development for air crafts, tanks and other military systems.

Does Pakistan have a JV with China for the WS-13 engine?

 

[mughaljee]

Geo Urdu -

یوکرائن پاکستان کوجنگی ٹینک انجن فراہم کرے گا

کراچی… محمد رفیق مانگٹ…روسی خبر رساں ادارے کے مطابق یو کرائن پاکستان کو 110ٹینک پاور پلانٹس فراہم کرے گا،جس میں انجن اور متعلقہ پرزہ جات شامل ہیں یوکرائن کی سرکاری اسلحہ درآمد کنندہ Ukrspetsstroi کے اعلان کے مطابق پاکستان کے ساتھ5کروڑ( 50ملین ڈال&#1585 کے طے معاہدے کے تحت110جنگی ٹینک انجن فراہم کیے جائیں گے۔ کئی دن قبل پاکستان کے ساتھ دستخط کیے جانے والے اس معاہدے کی مدت چار سال پر محیط ہے جس کے تحت یوکرائن میں میلشیو پلانٹ خارکوو میں ان پاور پلانٹس کو تیار کیا جائے گا،تاہم کمپنی نے اس کی تکنیکی تفصیلات جاری نہیں کیں۔ کمپنی کے قائم مقام ڈپٹی جنرل ڈائریکٹر کا کہنا ہے کہ یوکرائن اس سے قبل الخالد ٹینک کے لئے تین سو سے زائد پاور پلانٹ فراہم کر چکا ہے۔یوکرائن چین کو بھی ٹینک انجن فراہم کر رہا ہے۔ان کا کہنا تھا کہ ہم دنیا میں معروف ٹینک پاور پلانٹ ساز وں کا مقابلہ کرنے کی صلاحیت رکھتے ہیں اور خاص جرمنی انجن سازوں سے براہ راست مسابقت ہے۔

 

[Last Hope]

Well you gotta start somewhere if you start today then 10 years down the line you would have an operational engine that you could use your own engine rather than the buying from a foreign country which would cut down on the cost and generate jobs. So at this point the government or MoD of Pakistan should start at creating the base for the engine development for air crafts, tanks and other military systems.

Yes you got to start from some point which should be withing next 3-5 years, but you cannot produce them for Al-Khalid or JF-17 as I pointed out. For a future platform which should be 100% homemade.

Does Pakistan have a JV with China for the WS-13 engine?

No involvement.

 

[farhan_9909]

are they the same older 1200hp or the latest 1400/1500 hp

 

[Arsalan]

if someone have news about the engine specs we can have an idea of what Tank it will fit in. If it is 1200 Hp then it will be Ak-I but if the new engines are 1500hp or above then it mean Ak-II is around the the corner.

anyone have details?

regards!

 

[Donatello]

Ukraine's firm signs $50m contract with Pakistan

LAHORE - Ukraine's state arms exporter Ukrspecexport has signed a contract with Pakistan for the supply of 110 engine units for tanks. The value of the contract, which will be implemented at the facilities of Kharkiv's Malyshev Plant for over four years, exceeds $50 million.Acting Director General of Ukrspecexport Vadym Kozhevnikov said this at the IDEX 2013 defense exhibition in Abu Dhabi.

Kozhevnikov said that more than 300 engine units for the Al-Khalid tank, which were produced at the plant in Kharkiv, had already been supplied to Pakistan. Furthermore, such engine units are currently being supplied to China. The company's acting deputy director general expressed hope that new agreements would be signed. He added that the company was negotiating with several countries in the Middle East.

Ukraine's firm signs $50m contract with Pakistan | The Nation

It means only 300 Al-Khalid have been made????

 

[Dazzler]

It means only 300 Al-Khalid have been made????

There were at least two different tenders for 6-td-2 engines, first was for 285, second was never published so we dont know how many are in service. However, the issuance of this tender seems interesting as the make is not mentioned, my guess is it could be for more AK-1s or IF its 6-td3, then its for AK-2.

Time will tell.

 

[Dazzler]

Well you gotta start somewhere if you start today then 10 years down the line you would have an operational engine that you could use your own engine rather than the buying from a foreign country which would cut down on the cost and generate jobs. So at this point the government or MoD of Pakistan should start at creating the base for the engine development for air crafts, tanks and other military systems.

Does Pakistan have a JV with China for the WS-13 engine?

We are making 530hp, 760hp tank engines locally, based on Ukrainian and Chinese technologies respectively. We have repair and maintenance facility for 6-td (T-80ud) and 6-td-2 (AK, AK-1) series in place so no need to license manufacture them, if need arises, it will be done. Cooperation with Ukraine is not just engine and transmission limited, but ammunition, armour, reactive armour and some undisclosed goodies also included. There is a lot going on behind the curtain.