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Britain recognizes the Tibet autonomous region as part of China, respects China's sovereignty and does not support "Tibetan independence", British Foreign Secretary William Hague said on Monday.

Hague's words came as China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi had his first phone conversation with him, about one year after political relations between the two nations were affected by the Dalai Lama issue.

According to the Foreign Ministry, Hague said during the conversation that Britain attaches great importance to China-UK relations and hopes to further cooperate with China in various fields.

Fully aware of the sensitivity of Tibet-related issues, Hague said Britain will properly handle such issues on the basis of respecting China's concerns.

Hague also said that the UK welcomes China's prosperity and success, and wants to see it play a more important role in international affairs.

Wang said that mutual respect and care for each other's major concerns is the premise to maintain political mutual trust and develop bilateral relations.

"China and the UK have comprehensive common interests, and there is wide space for the development of bilateral relations," Wang said.

Wang stressed that China appreciates that the UK attaches importance to relations with China, and thinks positively of Britain's reiterated position that it recognizes Tibet as part of China and does not support "Tibetan independence".

Wang hopes the UK brings positive energy to further the development of relations with China.

Zhang Jianxiong, a researcher on European studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said the Dalai Lama issue has often played the role of a "firm knot" in relations between some Western nations and China.

That is because some Western politicians have played the Dalai Lama card to court votes, while Beijing sees the issue as its "bottom line" on which it will by no means compromise, he said.

Zhang said Western politicians, after meeting the Dalai Lama, always want the quarrel to end early so as to ease relations with Beijing at an early date.

Now Britain has come to the stage, partially due to its stagnant economy, he said.

"And President Xi Jinping's visit to Germany as well as French President Francois Hollande's visit to China earlier this year have served as catalysts," he added.

Big deals were signed during both visits.

Zhao Junjie, another expert on European studies at the CASS, said both German chancellor Angela Merkel and former French president Nicolas Sarkozy used to play the Dalai Lama card but finally turned to mending relations with Beijing.

"And Merkel even developed very good personal relations with former premier Wen Jiabao in the process. I think that would be a good case for London to look at when it thinks over the prospect of its relations with Beijing."

The episode in China-UK ties in the past year exposed a lack of political trust, despite their thriving business ties and growing communication mechanisms, he added.

In 2012, China-UK trade in goods topped $60 billion for the first time. Last year Britain was the only EU member that enjoyed growth in both exports to and imports from China.

Chinese investment in the UK surged to more than $8 billion in 2012. This is more than the total Chinese investment in Britain from 2009 to 2011.

Great advancements were also made in China-UK cooperation in infrastructure, advanced manufacturing, creative industry, research and development and offshore RMB business.

Last week, Chinese conglomerate Dalian Wanda Group said it would spend $1.6 billion to buy British yacht maker Sunseeker and develop an upmarket London hotel.

Zhao said the calm way China handled the diplomatic disturbance also reflected that Beijing's foreign policies are getting more mature.

UK Prime Minister David Cameron and Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg met the Dalai Lama last year. China is firmly opposed to foreign leaders' meeting with the Dalai Lama in any form as well as foreign countries intervening in China's internal affairs under any pretext.

One can argue that bilateral relationships should not be held to ransom by any single issue, but given earlier precedents from France and Germany, the Chinese response should have been expected, said Tim Summers, senior consulting fellow of the Chatham House Asia Program in his comment on the think tank's website in May.

"The UK government needs to work positively to move beyond this spat," Summers added.

"It needs compromise and respect on both sides, including over sensitive issues."

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After this talk you can bet your *** Cameron will take the next flight available to visit china:D
 
Not one single country in the ENTIRE world recognizes Tibetan independence. Not one.

Hell, even the Dalai Lama himself does not:

Dalai Lama: Tibet Wants Autonomy, Not Independence - TIME

So it's a completely moot point.

this is what the article is talking about
David Cameron's rift with China could cost UK billions

David Cameron has effectively been barred from visiting China because Beijing is so angry at the Prime Minister for meeting the Dalai Lama last year.

China wants Mr Cameron to apologise for hosting Tibet’s spiritual leader, who disputes Beijing’s territorial claims on the region. The Government insists there is nothing to apologise for.

There are now fears that the frosty diplomatic relations could put at risk Chinese investment in Britain, which was worth £8billion last year.

Chinese sources have made a veiled threat that for investment in the UK “there needs to be a strong relationship
”.

That raises the prospect of large infrastructure projects such as the High Speed 2 rail network and the Government’s nuclear investment programme missing out on billions of pounds of key investment from China’s sovereign wealth fund.

The damaging stand-off has seen a cooling of relations up to the level of the countries’ leaders.
Under a bilateral agreement, Mr Cameron was due to visit China last autumn but that visit was called off. This year it was the turn of Li Keqiang, the Chinese premier, to visit Britain – but plans for that have now been put on hold.

Last month, a British trade trip to China, also due to have been led by Mr Cameron, did not take place. In contrast, François Hollande, the French president, was greeted with a 21-gun salute in Beijing recently.

Last May, China warned Mr Cameron and Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, of “serious consequences” for Britain after the private meeting with the Dalai Lama in St Paul’s Cathedral.

Sebastian Wood, Britain’s ambassador in Beijing, was summoned to the foreign ministry to receive a rebuke from Song Tao, China’s vice-foreign minister. The foreign ministry said the meeting with the exiled Tibetan leader had “seriously interfered with China’s internal affairs”. Mr Song urged Britain to take “practical actions to correct the error”.

However, the pleas were ignored, and China is now exerting public pressure on the Government to bow to its demands and make amends.

The Beijing foreign ministry has now escalated the row by insisting the UK must “work with us to bring the relationship back on to a healthy track at an early date”.

A spokesman said: “We all know that the relationship between China and the UK was undermined by David Cameron meeting the Dalai Lama and this is not something we are willing to see.”

Diplomatic sources told The Telegraph that Mr Cameron was now not welcome to visit China and Mr Li
Although Chinese investment in the UK hit an all-time high last year of some £8billion, five times as much as in 2011, one source in London threatened that “a political relationship is a pre-condition for a trading relationship
”.

Among the British investments of the China Investment Corporation are London’s Canary Wharf financial district — of which it owns a third — and Heathrow, in which it has a 10pc stake worth £450million.

Alistair Michie, the deputy chairman of the 48 Group, a pro-China British business organisation, said Britain’s position is “doubly unfortunate” because a new generation of Chinese leaders has just taken charge for the next 10 years.

“The UK has not fully grasped the significance of the handover to the new leaders and we have got off on the wrong foot,” he said. “None of our leaders has a personal relationship with any of the new Chinese leaders, and relationships are key to doing business with China.”

Currently there are only a handful of Britons with links to the top of the Communist party, including Lord Mandelson, the former trade and industry secretary, and Lord Powell , an adviser to Margaret Thatcher in office.

There are fears that Britain’s intransigence risks jeopardising billions of pounds of investment. There was a 13 per cent increase in British goods exported to China last year, worth £10.5billion. There were some 179,000 Chinese visitors, a 20 per cent increase, spending some £300million.

Beijing has a policy of punishing countries whose leaders meet the Dalai Lama, but the current freeze with the UK is thought to be the longest ever.

After Nicolas Sarkozy, then French president, met the Dalai Lama in 2009, France was forced to issue a joint statement. The statement was widely interpreted as a promise to discuss any future meetings with the Dalai Lama with Beijing. In 2007, after Angela Merkel met the Dalai Lama, Germany published a joint statement with China.

Government sources admitted there had been some frustration after the Dalai Lama meeting but strongly denied any visits had been cancelled because of it. They insisted Beijing had been warned before the meeting and it was on sacred ground to emphasise it was a meeting with a spiritual leader.

They said that last autumn’s visit by Mr Cameron had been called off early in 2012, before the meeting with the Dalai Lama took place, because it clashed with the election of new leaders in Beijing
.

In January, the Government looked at rearranging a visit in April, but this was called off because Mr Li only took over in March. Sources said Mr Cameron would visit before the end of the year.

A Downing Street spokesman said: “We haven’t cancelled any PM visits to China. We want to deepen our relations with China and indeed we already are — UK exports to China grew faster than any of our main European partners last year and we were the only EU country to benefit from increased trade and investment.

“Of course we engage with China on a huge range of issues, on some we agree, on others we disagree, but we strongly believe it is in the interests of both countries to manage our differences with respect, and cooperate as much as possible. Our position on Tibet is longstanding and clear: we regard Tibet as part of the People’s Republic of China. The PM spoke to Premier Li Keqiang in March and they agreed that they looked forward to meeting and continuing to strengthen relations in due course.”

Meanwhile, Zong Qinghou, a drinks tycoon and China’s richest man, claimed he had snubbed both the Queen and Mr Cameron in the space of one week in February. He said he had been invited by the Queen for dinner and by Mr Cameron to celebrate Chinese New Year. Nothing in the court circular indicated any such event at Buckingham Palace.

David Cameron's rift with China could cost UK billions - Telegraph
 
this is what the article is talking about
David Cameron's rift with China could cost UK billions

David Cameron has effectively been barred from visiting China because Beijing is so angry at the Prime Minister for meeting the Dalai Lama last year.

Yeah, that was annoying.

But it was only a meeting. Hopefully UK politicians will refrain from such useless meetings in the future.
 
Yeah, that was annoying.

But it was only a meeting. Hopefully UK politicians will refrain from such useless meetings in the future.

I think this talk will be taken as an apologize by Cameron on the meeting with DL, Cameron is so desperate to visit china he will do just almost anything:D
 
even Tibetans I met don't care much whether Tibet becomes independent or not they now mostly consider themselves Indians from inside its time to give them citizenship and increase their role in development of India trust me they love India more than some of the communities we have here as official citizens
 
Tibetan freedom is an event waiting to happen at the opportune time.... its non avoidable, China may try as hard as it likes..

If it was a dead end, I would say there is no need of such a statement...

the fact alone that such a statement is made or required by Chinese to calm their fears, tells you that Tibet freedom is very much on cards and minds of nations, may not be on their lips.
 
Why the heck do people care what Britain thinks of Tibet's status? This is a internal affair. If Tibet is now de factor independent and wants to get recognized by other nations, then it's another matter. This is not 19th century when Britain can arbitrarily draw borders of other nations.

It is as ridiculous as statement like China does not recognize independence of Folkland island. Why should Britain care?

If you pay attention to other people's attitudes, you show insecurity. It will only give upper hand to your counterpart in diplomacy and your counterpart can use this to wrestle benefits from you that should not be possible in the first place. Some government officials really need to be more mature.

Stop giving more coverage to Tibet issue and it will then become less and less relevant. Of course, the western media loves it, but the Chinese government really should just ignore any such coverage.
 
Why the heck do people care what Britain thinks of Tibet's status? This is a internal affair. If Tibet is now de factor independent and wants to get recognized by other nations, then it's another matter. This is not 19th century when Britain can arbitrarily draw borders of other nations.

It is as ridiculous as statement like China does not recognize independence of Folkland island. Why should Britain care?

If you pay attention to other people's attitudes, you show insecurity. It will only give upper hand to your counterpart in diplomacy and your counterpart can use this to wrestle benefits from you that should not be possible in the first place. Some government officials really need to be more mature.

Stop giving more coverage to Tibet issue and it will then become less and less relevant. Of course, the western media loves it, but the Chinese government really should just ignore any such coverage.

irrespective of whether media likes it or not, Tibet is an issue pending resolution... it is not a small country which can be taken over by China and everyone forgets about it.
 
irrespective of whether media likes it or not, Tibet is an issue pending resolution... it is not a small country which can be taken over by China and everyone forgets about it.

We can talk about this when Tibet becomes de facto independent like Mongolia in 1946, so your speculation is irrelevant.
 

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