Uighurs flee China for Turkey in search of peace

[GoGetIt]

are you Uighur?

We Chinese enter into xinjiang long before you turk's invasion of Constantinople.

Uighur terrorize innocent Chinese, of course China government will respond with strong hand, 10 millions Uighur used violent to terrorize the population as a mean to achieve their political objective against over 1 billions Chinese, not a wise choice, and more likely the outside world not have much empathy toward Uighur struggle. No way 10 millions of Uighur will ever win against 1 billions Chinese for independent from China.

not all Uighurs are violent,most of them are just ordinary people.But some mobsters put them to shame.

 

[ahojunk]

not all Uighurs are violent,most of them are just ordinary people.
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That’s correct. 99.9% of Uighur are proud Chinese. It's only a very small minority who are trouble makers.

I have seen pictures of entire villages helping police track down the terrorists.
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[Luffy 500]

This shows the extent of barbarism of china towards muslim minorities. These r some of the basic question i want to ask chinese members here:

- Why persecute an insignificant minority? Allowing them to peacefully practice their religion won't take Xinjiang away from u. Or are u scared of your han chinese accepting Islam? I thought CCP officially allows freedom of religion.

- If u don't want them, then why not allow them to leave your autocratic state?

- Or is it that u want to slaughter them in mass like stalin or Mao ?

Bcs if u r planning of making muslims leave their religion, than u have planned to fail. Muslims r not tibetans.

May Allah (swt) protect our uighur brothers & sisters and end their hardship. Ameen.

 

[Beidou2020]

This shows the extent of barbarism of china towards muslim minorities. These r some of the basic question i want to ask chinese members here:

- Why persecute an insignificant minority? Allowing them to peacefully practice their religion won't take Xinjiang away from u. Or are u scared of your han chinese accepting Islam? I thought CCP officially allows freedom of religion.

- If u don't want them, then why not allow them to leave your autocratic state?

- Or is it that u want to slaughter them in mass like stalin or Mao ?

Bcs if u r planning of making muslims leave their religion, than u have planned to fail. Muslims r not tibetans.

May Allah (swt) protect our uighur brothers & sisters and end their hardship. Ameen.

So you are supporting terrorists that slaughter innocent Han Chinese?

 

[Luffy 500]

So you are supporting terrorists that slaughter innocent Han Chinese?

U didn't answer a single question.

And these people r terrorists to u? :

 

[Beidou2020]

U didn't answer a single question.

And these people r terrorists to u? :

Terrorists could use the veil to cover up their faces.

 

[GoGetIt]

U didn't answer a single question.

And these people r terrorists to u? :

who killed Russian spy last time？

this is why they are evil.

 

[Kylin]

This shows the extent of barbarism of china towards muslim minorities. These r some of the basic question i want to ask chinese members here:...

I will waste my time and point out where you were wrong, however, I know people like you already made up your mind, this correction is not for you.

- Why persecute an insignificant minority? Allowing them to peacefully practice their religion won't take Xinjiang away from u. Or are u scared of your han chinese accepting Islam? I thought CCP officially allows freedom of religion.
I don't know about your country, but in China, no minorities is insignificant.
Typical manipulative suggestions, by addressing them as insignificant, you are trying to make people
sympathize with them. Supporting your argument with language tricks is a weak argument, next time, try facts, and with credible source. What is credible you ask? Well just use the same standard you use on Chinese sources, that is fair isn't it?
They were allowed to peacefully practice their religion, it was them settled on Chinese land then try to break away from China; it was them mixed their separatist idea with religious idea and started attacks on innocent civilian. Islam have been in China for hundreds of years, when exactly were we scared of them??? 99% Muslims lives in peace in China, you are discounting all of them? That you were right, CCP does allow freedom of religion, as long as church and state are separated.

- If u don't want them, then why not allow them to leave your autocratic state?

We would if they don't join ISIS or other terrorists group, in fact, we won't even care where they go, as long as people who can't live peacefully leave. The only reason would be how the international communities would react if you don't regulate your population moving in or out, especially when these people are joining terrorists groups?
We officially let them go, got blamed for exporting terrorists. So China is doing the smart thing, let them go by their own, once they leave, we bear no responsibility.
Those masks they force women to wear is not the traditional Uighur clothing, only those who accepted the extreme religious ideas would force their wives wear this imported faceless dress.

- Or is it that u want to slaughter them in mass like stalin or Mao ?
Bcs if u r planning of making muslims leave their religion, than u have planned to fail. Muslims r not tibetans.

Where did you get this stupid idea? This is the most stupid understanding of China I have ever heard. Again, you are ignoring the millions happy Muslim Chinese. And if we were set out to slaughter them, what stopped us when Mao was actually freaking alive? Also, if what you were saying are true, then...shouldn't there be no Tibetans practicing Buddhism any more since you are suggesting we succeed with Tibetans, and the monks who burned themselves in recent years must be fakes then? Damn they are devoted actors.

These basic questions are not so basic now are they?

 

[Yizhi]

I will waste my time and point out where you were wrong, however, I know people like you already made up your mind, this correction is not for you.

- Why persecute an insignificant minority? Allowing them to peacefully practice their religion won't take Xinjiang away from u. Or are u scared of your han chinese accepting Islam? I thought CCP officially allows freedom of religion.
I don't know about your country, but in China, no minorities is insignificant.
Typical manipulative suggestions, by addressing them as insignificant, you are trying to make people
sympathize with them. Supporting your argument with language tricks is a weak argument, next time, try facts, and with credible source. What is credible you ask? Well just use the same standard you use on Chinese sources, that is fair isn't it?
They were allowed to peacefully practice their religion, it was them settled on Chinese land then try to break away from China; it was them mixed their separatist idea with religious idea and started attacks on innocent civilian. Islam have been in China for hundreds of years, when exactly were we scared of them??? 99% Muslims lives in peace in China, you are discounting all of them? That you were right, CCP does allow freedom of religion, as long as church and state are separated.

- If u don't want them, then why not allow them to leave your autocratic state?

We would if they don't join ISIS or other terrorists group, in fact, we won't even care where they go, as long as people who can't live peacefully leave. The only reason would be how the international communities would react if you don't regulate your population moving in or out, especially when these people are joining terrorists groups?
We officially let them go, got blamed for exporting terrorists. So China is doing the smart thing, let them go by their own, once they leave, we bear no responsibility.
Those masks they force women to wear is not the traditional Uighur clothing, only those who accepted the extreme religious ideas would force their wives wear this imported faceless dress.

- Or is it that u want to slaughter them in mass like stalin or Mao ?
Bcs if u r planning of making muslims leave their religion, than u have planned to fail. Muslims r not tibetans.

Where did you get this stupid idea? This is the most stupid understanding of China I have ever heard. Again, you are ignoring the millions happy Muslim Chinese. And if we were set out to slaughter them, what stopped us when Mao was actually freaking alive? Also, if what you were saying are true, then...shouldn't there be no Tibetans practicing Buddhism any more since you are suggesting we succeed with Tibetans, and the monks who burned themselves in recent years must be fakes then? Damn they are devoted actors.

These basic questions are not so basic now are they?

thx. but i doubt it'll work for these people who have already got a stereotype in mind that Uighur has to be 'suffering from repression'.
i commented on Uighur related news recently so i'll simply copy it here.

i'm tired of foreigners using Uighur news to do the China bashing. if trolls here really care about 10 million Uighurs actually living in China, donate some money to poor remote Uighur prefectures in Xinjiang, or travel there to help the local tourism economy.
the hypocrisy level on Uighur related news is appalling.

 

[Luffy 500]

I will waste my time and point out where you were wrong, however, I know people like you already made up your mind, this correction is not for you.

- Why persecute an insignificant minority? Allowing them to peacefully practice their religion won't take Xinjiang away from u. Or are u scared of your han chinese accepting Islam? I thought CCP officially allows freedom of religion.
I don't know about your country, but in China, no minorities is insignificant.
Typical manipulative suggestions, by addressing them as insignificant, you are trying to make people
sympathize with them. Supporting your argument with language tricks is a weak argument, next time, try facts, and with credible source. What is credible you ask? Well just use the same standard you use on Chinese sources, that is fair isn't it?
They were allowed to peacefully practice their religion, it was them settled on Chinese land then try to break away from China; it was them mixed their separatist idea with religious idea and started attacks on innocent civilian. Islam have been in China for hundreds of years, when exactly were we scared of them??? 99% Muslims lives in peace in China, you are discounting all of them? That you were right, CCP does allow freedom of religion, as long as church and state are separated.

Certain groups after decades of oppression decided to break away from china. Even then it doesn't make sense why u r persecuting innocent uighurs and preventing them from peacefully practice their religion in their private lives. What u are alluding to it seems that CCP allow freedom of "relgion" as long as people don't practice religion and become athiest , the official religion of PRC.

- If u don't want them, then why not allow them to leave your autocratic state?

We would if they don't join ISIS or other terrorists group, in fact, we won't even care where they go, as long as people who can't live peacefully leave. The only reason would be how the international communities would react if you don't regulate your population moving in or out, especially when these people are joining terrorists groups?
We officially let them go, got blamed for exporting terrorists. So China is doing the smart thing, let them go by their own, once they leave, we bear no responsibility.
Those masks they force women to wear is not the traditional Uighur clothing, only those who accepted the extreme religious ideas would force their wives wear this imported faceless dress.

Bucket load of irrelevant rants hinding behind the pathetic excuse of "terrorism & ISIS"- the convenient bogey. U care so much abt them, that they have to escape chinese state sponsored persecution without a passport leaving their families behind and risking their lives.

And from where did burqa come in this argument? Muslims in china are living for 100s of years with the islamic attire and your founders and early rulers didn't seem to have any problem with that. And now u want to dictate muslim women what clothes they should wear and objectify them? So much for freedom of religion in china.

- Or is it that u want to slaughter them in mass like stalin or Mao ?
Bcs if u r planning of making muslims leave their religion, than u have planned to fail. Muslims r not tibetans.

Where did you get this stupid idea? This is the most stupid understanding of China I have ever heard. Again, you are ignoring the millions happy Muslim Chinese. And if we were set out to slaughter them, what stopped us when Mao was actually freaking alive? Also, if what you were saying are true, then...shouldn't there be no Tibetans practicing Buddhism any more since you are suggesting we succeed with Tibetans, and the monks who burned themselves in recent years must be fakes then? Damn they are devoted actors.

These basic questions are not so basic now are they?

In your post you blamed islam for terrorism/separatism and argued in favor of interfering in the private lives of innocent muslims. That alone shows what u really want from them. Don't know if u r a CCP activist or normal chinese but whatever the case u subconsciously expressed your desire of stripping muslims off their faith.

 

[Beidou2020]

Certain groups after decades of oppression decided to break away from china. Even then it doesn't make sense why u r persecuting innocent uighurs and preventing them from peacefully practice their religion in their private lives. What u are alluding to it seems that CCP allow freedom of "relgion" as long as people don't practice religion and become athiest , the official religion of PRC.



Bucket load of irrelevant rants hinding behind the pathetic excuse of "terrorism & ISIS"- the convenient bogey. U care so much abt them, that they have to escape chinese state sponsored persecution without a passport leaving their families behind and risking their lives.

And from where did burqa come in this argument? Muslims in china are living for 100s of years with the islamic attire and your founders and early rulers didn't seem to have any problem with that. And now u want to dictate muslim women what clothes they should wear and objectify them? So much for freedom of religion in china.




In your post you blamed islam for terrorism/separatism and argued in favor of interfering in the private lives of innocent muslims. That alone shows what u really want from them. Don't know if u r a CCP activist or normal chinese but whatever the case u subconsciously expressed your desire of stripping muslims off their faith.

So you are defending terrorism?

Hope the intelligence agencies are tracking your IP address.

 

[GoGetIt]

Certain groups after decades of oppression decided to break away from china. Even then it doesn't make sense why u r persecuting innocent uighurs and preventing them from peacefully practice their religion in their private lives. What u are alluding to it seems that CCP allow freedom of "relgion" as long as people don't practice religion and become athiest , the official religion of PRC.


Bucket load of irrelevant rants hinding behind the pathetic excuse of "terrorism & ISIS"- the convenient bogey. U care so much abt them, that they have to escape chinese state sponsored persecution without a passport leaving their families behind and risking their lives.

And from where did burqa come in this argument? Muslims in china are living for 100s of years with the islamic attire and your founders and early rulers didn't seem to have any problem with that. And now u want to dictate muslim women what clothes they should wear and objectify them? So much for freedom of religion in china.

burqa is never Chinese Muslim culture!They have their own traditional clothing!banning burqa is the protection for the real culture.

Uighur

kazakh

hui people
In China,The Hui people,kazakhs,even some mongols are muslim,why would we only aim at uighur,and kazakhs and mongols have their own country but they choose to stay.

 

[usernameless]

Why are some chines still crying here? The ones that escape china are Uyghurs, not your father and mother lol, so chill. Apparently a good portion of Uyghurs are not happy in china. Their and Tibetans' unhappiness was confirmed already in the past anyway, but it seems it has come to the point where Uyghurs are escaping more and more. Instead of ranting about other countries, ask yourself why these people are unhappy and escaping (surely there are more, but they cant due no money or are afraid to undergo the risks). The chinese members who hate Uyghurs the most here, condemn and belittle others who open their doors for refugees the most lol. You should be happy that Uyghurs leave, win-win :p

To the joker saying Turks fled to Germany. those Turks were invited by European countries to come work there as guest workers. World of difference. Didnt expect much from brainwashed parroting retard ccp trolls anyway.

I will waste my time and point out where you were wrong, however, I know people like you already made up your mind, this correction is not for you.

- Why persecute an insignificant minority? Allowing them to peacefully practice their religion won't take Xinjiang away from u. Or are u scared of your han chinese accepting Islam? I thought CCP officially allows freedom of religion.
I don't know about your country, but in China, no minorities is insignificant.
Typical manipulative suggestions, by addressing them as insignificant, you are trying to make people
sympathize with them. Supporting your argument with language tricks is a weak argument, next time, try facts, and with credible source. What is credible you ask? Well just use the same standard you use on Chinese sources, that is fair isn't it?
They were allowed to peacefully practice their religion, it was them settled on Chinese land then try to break away from China; it was them mixed their separatist idea with religious idea and started attacks on innocent civilian. Islam have been in China for hundreds of years, when exactly were we scared of them??? 99% Muslims lives in peace in China, you are discounting all of them? That you were right, CCP does allow freedom of religion, as long as church and state are separated.

- If u don't want them, then why not allow them to leave your autocratic state?

We would if they don't join ISIS or other terrorists group, in fact, we won't even care where they go, as long as people who can't live peacefully leave. The only reason would be how the international communities would react if you don't regulate your population moving in or out, especially when these people are joining terrorists groups?
We officially let them go, got blamed for exporting terrorists. So China is doing the smart thing, let them go by their own, once they leave, we bear no responsibility.
Those masks they force women to wear is not the traditional Uighur clothing, only those who accepted the extreme religious ideas would force their wives wear this imported faceless dress.

- Or is it that u want to slaughter them in mass like stalin or Mao ?
Bcs if u r planning of making muslims leave their religion, than u have planned to fail. Muslims r not tibetans.

Where did you get this stupid idea? This is the most stupid understanding of China I have ever heard. Again, you are ignoring the millions happy Muslim Chinese. And if we were set out to slaughter them, what stopped us when Mao was actually freaking alive? Also, if what you were saying are true, then...shouldn't there be no Tibetans practicing Buddhism any more since you are suggesting we succeed with Tibetans, and the monks who burned themselves in recent years must be fakes then? Damn they are devoted actors.

These basic questions are not so basic now are they?

Bull crap. This issue is not a religious issue, as you and ccp like to make of it. Ccp is using the 'war on terror' as a disguise to continue its policies on sinifizing (?) east Turkestan. Of course you have no problem with muslim Han (hui), thats why the world hears about Uyghurs and Tibetans, because ccp's problem is their cultural identity, religion comes second. What ccp does is forced assimilation/brainwashing. chines here say that as long ccp keeps investing in those regions problems will be solved and riots and attacks will stop. I doubt it. The more you push a cat in a corner, the more unpredictable it will become. i used to take articles about Uyghurs and china with a grain of salt, because i know some western sources are waging propaganda wars against China, Turkey and other countries etc., but the fact that Uyghurs are fleeing and their desperate attacks are increasing, it can only mean there was/is truth in those articles.

they got these extremely unfair preference from the government, still there are dozens going to turkey to join terrorist groups````so the Turkish member here are clueless on the issues they are talking about```` Uighers in China live 100 times better than the oppressed Kurdish people in Turkey

Kurds in Turkey have more rights and living standard than even the average Han citizen in china lol. 'Oppressed Kurds' is so <90s, Kurds overall situation has developed well and has come to the stage that the main worry of Kurdish political party now is demanding education only in Kurdish, which wont happen of course. Uyghur cant even form their own party, cant vote, cant criticize ccp and china (like some Kurds are criticizing Turkey and its govt), unless he/she has a death wish. Also Uyghurs face forced assimilation and Han settlers are pouring in their homeland. Speaking from freedom and rights point of view, Uyghurs, and even you, would wish to be a Kurd in Turkey in order to have freedom and rights they cant have in china lol.

 

[TheTruth]

Bull crap. This issue is not a religious issue,


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Exactly. "Uyghurs" are a foreign race who committed genocide against the natives of Xinjiang. If they don't accept China, they can pay a special tax, pack their bags, or face the sword

Certain groups after decades of oppression decided to break away from china. Even then it doesn't make sense why u r persecuting innocent uighurs and preventing them from peacefully practice their religion in their private lives.

Exactly. If they're so peaceful, why are they getting so much attention? Why don't the dozens of other ethnic groups face the same scrutiny?

It's because they aren't real Muslims.

 

[usernameless]

Exactly. "Uyghurs" are a foreign race who committed genocide against the natives of Xinjiang. If they don't accept China, they can pay a special tax, pack their bags, or face the sword



Exactly. If they're so peaceful, why are they getting so much attention? Why don't the dozens of other ethnic groups face the same scrutiny?

It's because they aren't real Muslims.

i see, so china truly oppresses Uyghurs, Tibetans and other minorities. the average chinese mindset on this forum also shows it. thanks for confirming again

edit: you are 35 years old?? you sound like a teenager lol.