U.S. says that the military is preparing a response to the attack on Saudi Arabian oil facilities

[OldTwilight]

Salaam




Two birds with one stone.

The Americans didn't attack earlier because they wanted to take out these two remaining middle eastern powers in one stroke.

The Saudi power has been money whilst the Iranians have had a decent military.

The Saudis will be bled dry for this supposed defence of their lands and resources - the Iranians will be bombarded in such a way that they are taken out for a few decades like Iraq.

Another masterful thing in this whole affair is that the Americans their ally Israel knew that the Iranians do posses missiles and such which would likely have ended up in Israel if the US had attacked itself.

Now they will use the Arab's money to take out Iranian power - and use Arab lands/armies to absorb much of the offensive capabilities of Iran by making them open coalition partners. Israelis will be saved because the target will have shifted from them to the Arabs.

Arabs were easy to manipulate by using the Iranians as the bogeyman - to the point that they started considering Israelis as less of a threat.

The Iranian religious/political ambition was also easily manipulated into helping Israel pacify the Arabs whilst ultimately putting them on a collision course with the Arabs and the US.

One can only imagine how the situation would've been different if both the Iranians and Arabs were friends instead of foes.

Sad situation and ultimately the Muslim world will be further weakened - each blaming the other. The reality is that both are blameworthy and both were manipulated by a smarter, well planned enemy.

May Allah have mercy on us all.

Well , only Arabs fear Usa and west like this

 

[mangekyo]

Doesn’t trump know that Saudi can destroy us in 8 hours. What do they need help from US for. Is 8 hours too long?

 

[YeBeWarned]

If he orders a reprisal strike, something like hitting some targets(not so significant) we could see things escalate. As of now I don't see signs of US getting militarily involved and see the overall situation for Saudi Arabia getting worse as far as external threats and loss of confidence in domestic arena for Saudi leaders.

And at this time, Saudi's can not afford to look weak , Iranians are attacking them at one place or another , they have a two front threat looming , none of their GCC ally is powerful enough join or stand by them militarily . No wonder they expect Pakistan to jump in and even let their Puppet from UAE threaten us . MBS has some tough decisions to make .

 

[mangekyo]

Salaam




Two birds with one stone.

The Americans didn't attack earlier because they wanted to take out these two remaining middle eastern powers in one stroke.

The Saudi power has been money whilst the Iranians have had a decent military.

The Saudis will be bled dry for this supposed defence of their lands and resources - the Iranians will be bombarded in such a way that they are taken out for a few decades like Iraq.

Another masterful thing in this whole affair is that the Americans their ally Israel knew that the Iranians do posses missiles and such which would likely have ended up in Israel if the US had attacked itself.

Now they will use the Arab's money to take out Iranian power - and use Arab lands/armies to absorb much of the offensive capabilities of Iran by making them open coalition partners. Israelis will be saved because the target will have shifted from them to the Arabs.

Arabs were easy to manipulate by using the Iranians as the bogeyman - to the point that they started considering Israelis as less of a threat.

The Iranian religious/political ambition was also easily manipulated into helping Israel pacify the Arabs whilst ultimately putting them on a collision course with the Arabs and the US.

One can only imagine how the situation would've been different if both the Iranians and Arabs were friends instead of foes.

Sad situation and ultimately the Muslim world will be further weakened - each blaming the other. The reality is that both are blameworthy and both were manipulated by a smarter, well planned enemy.

May Allah have mercy on us all.

Nice fantasy thinking but..

1. Hezbollah can take on Israel with minimum help from Iran.
2. All US bases in ME are within the range of our missiles. If US were to do something as silly as you suggest they would. They need to say bye bye to their bases in ME. Trillions of dollars, and more importantly, more than a decades planning gone up in smoke within seconds. They will never risk this.
3. Saudi is mostly desert. Why would we need to focus our offense on Saudi at all? A couple of BMs targeting their oil and water treatment facilities would knock them out for years.

Only winner here is China who gets to replace all US bases and rebuild the countries

 

[khansaheeb]

Because they are Muslims. Pakistan is about Islam. Do you know what is Pakistan's "Matlab"?

Yes. Even if the Arabs kick us like as if we are dogs we must not fall to their level.

It is not someone else's. It ours. it's about Muslims.

Seems like Islamiat stops with Palestinians and Kashmiris?

US will 'defend' international order being 'undermined by Iran': Pentagon chief

16/09/2019

Washington (AFP)

US Defense Secretary Mike Esper said Monday that the US military is preparing a response to the attack on major Saudi Arabia oil facilities.

After briefing President Donald Trump in the White House, Esper singled out Iran as undermining international order, without directly pinning blame on Tehran for the attack.

"The United States military, with our interagency team, is working with our partners to address this unprecedented attack and defend the international rules-based order that is being undermined by Iran," he said in a tweet.

Esper said he and the Pentagon leadership met with Trump in the wake of Saturday's attack, which analysts say appear to have involved drones and possibly cruise missiles launched from a nearby country.

Earlier he also spoke with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman as well as Iraqi Defense Minister Najah al-Shemmari.

There was, however, no suggestion of what kind of response Washington or its Gulf allies were considering.

The Iran-supported Huthi rebels in Yemen claimed responsibility for the attack.

But the Riyadh-led coalition fighting the Huthis said earlier Monday that the weapons were Iranian-made, and it remains unclear where they were launched from.

https://www.france24.com/en/2019091...order-being-undermined-by-iran-pentagon-chief

Saudis have spent close to $300 billion on arms procurement over the decade and the US has probably near that amount in assets and equipment. If all this couldn't stop the most important installations being attacked then ...give up.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

What I can assess from all of this is that trump is not interested in initiating a conflict with Iran.. It is the arabs and israeli who are actually provoking him to get involved.

it is israelis only and i am damn sure israeli puppets in pentagon is involved in this attack .

Nice fantasy thinking but..

1. Hezbollah can take on Israel with minimum help from Iran.
2. All US bases in ME are within the range of our missiles. If US were to do something as silly as you suggest they would. They need to say bye bye to their bases in ME. Trillions of dollars, and more importantly, more than a decades planning gone up in smoke within seconds. They will never risk this.
3. Saudi is mostly desert. Why would we need to focus our offense on Saudi at all? A couple of BMs targeting their oil and water treatment facilities would knock them out for years.

Only winner here is China who gets to replace all US bases and rebuild the countries

you are being unrealistic here . only seeing one side of the coin . what will happen with iran then ? million or iranians will be killed in bombardment . mullah regime will be fukd up and most probably iran will be dismantle.

 

[American Pakistani]

Why do we have a duty to defend Arabs? Saade maame lagde aa?

He is a troll. Nobody really understand his posts, what he is trying to say. Seems like he himself is a confused thing.

@IbnAbdullah

Summed everything up pretty good. I believe that too. It's foolish middle east vs intelligent west. How they will shoot 2 birds with one stone and save their slingshot (Israel).

 

[Shafsins]

Because they are Muslims. Pakistan is about Islam. Do you know what is Pakistan's "Matlab"?

Yes. Even if the Arabs kick us like as if we are dogs we must not fall to their level.

It is not someone else's. It ours. it's about Muslims.

Your signature contradicts your statements and as a Pakistani, I cannot understand if this is sarcasm or you are just confused.

 

[mangekyo]

it is israelis only and i am damn sure israeli puppets in pentagon is involved in this attack .


you are being unrealistic here . only seeing one side of the coin . what will happen with iran then ? million or iranians will be killed in bombardment . mullah regime will be fukd up and most probably iran will be dismantle.

Well. He was talking about a full scale war between Iran and US and it’s Arab pawns. You expect Iran to sit back and watch or respond with full scale? You’re the one being unrealistic, and you’re ignorant too

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

It is time Pakistam mobilized PAF JF-17 Thunders and sent a squadron to defend Saudia Arabia. It is time Pakistan, USA, Saudia Arabia launched a all out air attack on Tehran and taught those Irani mullahs a lesson.

Would it possible to work with CIA and send SSG/Seal team across the border into Iran to cause grief?

Revenge is sweet.

Ps. Let the American's charge the Saudi's money. Pakistan must do this as ex-gratis as duty to defend Muslims.

Please come and invade Iran. We will welcome you like our "Liberators" LOL!!!

 

[Bengal71]

Ok. What happens after US strikes Iran?

All Saudi oil installations will be finished in a few days, may even be their water treatment facilities.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Please come and invade Iran. We will welcome you like our "Liberators" LOL!!!

Your welcome brader. Can we tear down statue of Mullah Rouhani in Tehran Square?

k. What happens after US strikes Iran?

Irani Shia Mullah spotted ....

 

[WinterNights]

@Indus Pakistan is being sarcastic. He is perfecting the art of sarcasm
Bro what happened to your TT status?

 

[Bengal71]

Your welcome brader. Can we tear down statue of Mullah Rouhani in Tehran Square?

Irani Shia Mullah spotted ....

You are a master of sarcasm, me too.

Only a shia is required to advise Pakistanis against joining the Saudis.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Your welcome brader. Can we tear down statue of Mullah Rouhani in Tehran Square?

Irani Shia Mullah spotted ....

Looks like you are too stupid to understand what that"LOL" meant at the end of my sentence!