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U.S. Military Seeks to Expand Raids in Pakistan

Okay, if USA really starts to expand raids into Pakistan then everything will explode. The Pakistani people will not allow USA to occupy their country. The army will also oppose any civilian government officials who allow this. Then you end up with most of Pakistan turning against USA in anger. NATO supplies are cut off and blown away. Taliban start attacking in Afghanistan.

Eventually USA will call Pakistan a terrorist state and try to seize Pakistan Army's nukes. It will need India's help to occupy Pakistan and Afghanistan. But China is not going to allow USA and India get together to carve up Pakistan. So China will attack India too.

Are we close to this point yet? Or does the NYT article just say what the anti-Pakistan faction of the US government thinks.
 
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Okay, if USA really starts to expand raids into Pakistan then everything will explode. The Pakistani people will not allow USA to occupy their country. The army will also oppose any civilian government officials who allow this. Then you end up with most of Pakistan turning against USA in anger. NATO supplies are cut off and blown away. Taliban start attacking in Afghanistan.

Eventually USA will call Pakistan a terrorist state and try to seize Pakistan Army's nukes. It will need India's help to occupy Pakistan and Afghanistan. But China is not going to allow USA and India get together to carve up Pakistan. So China will attack India too.

Are we close to this point yet? Or does the NYT article just say what the anti-Pakistan faction of the US government thinks.


Who says India will want to occupy Pakistan and Afganistan to help US you think we have resources to burn? I think you jumping way ahead of the gun remember these raids will only be done with approval of the Pakistan goverment not without.
 
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Pakistan says no foreign troops can operate on its soil

WASHINGTON, Dec 21 (APP): Pakistan has ruled out the notion of any foreign troops operating on its soil, with its top diplomat in Washington stressing that Pakistani forces are capable of handling militant threat within the country’s borders.

“Pakistani forces are capable of handling the militant threat within our borders and no foreign forces are allowed or required to operate inside our sovereign territory,” Islamabad’s ambassador to the United States Husain Haqqani said.

He was commenting on a story in The New York Times, which claimed that U.S. commanders based in Afghanistan are pushing for special forces raids on militant targets across the border into Pakistani territory.

Haqqani said the “U.S. and Pakistani forces understand each others terms of engagement well” and have a very high-level of cooperation as allies fighting a common enemy, along the Afghan border.

“We work with our allies, especially the U.S., and appreciate their material support but we will not accept foreign troops on our soil - a position that is well known,” he stated emphatically.

Reminding critics of Pakistan’s unmatched anti-terror efforts along the Afghan border, where the country has deployed well over 100,000 troops, Haqqani said:

“We have made enormous gains and tremendous sacrifices in fighting terrorists over the last two years and will continue our efforts for our own security and that of the whole world.”

He pointed out that Pakistani and U.S. officials remain constantly in touch and “do not need anonymous source news reports to tell us about each others’ thinking.”

In this context, the ambassador cited the recent visit of U.S.
Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mullen, who during his trip “acknowledged Pakistan’s contribution.”

“Nothing discussed during his trip indicates the likelihood of ill-advised escalation or unilateral action by NATO troops beyond their mandate in Afghanistan.”

Pakistan, Afghanistan and the U.S. will “continue to work together to root out al-Qaeda and other terrorists and bring stability and prosperity to our region,” the ambassador noted.
 
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talibans are really making american arses sour, so to breathe a frsh air they are now turning on their allies, if this policy continues, pakistan will eventually leave US camp for better and join anti US camp
 
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These delusional pundits be in NYT, some brain dead army general or some cr@py expert on south Asia or to be more precise the ones who think that they are expert on ******, they need to switch from fox news to the channel called real world. May be just may be they will get the sense of reality that they have not been able to acquaint with yet.
 
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Okay, if USA really starts to expand raids into Pakistan then everything will explode. The Pakistani people will not allow USA to occupy their country. The army will also oppose any civilian government officials who allow this. Then you end up with most of Pakistan turning against USA in anger. NATO supplies are cut off and blown away. Taliban start attacking in Afghanistan.

Eventually USA will call Pakistan a terrorist state and try to seize Pakistan Army's nukes. It will need India's help to occupy Pakistan and Afghanistan. But China is not going to allow USA and India get together to carve up Pakistan. So China will attack India too.

Are we close to this point yet? Or does the NYT article just say what the anti-Pakistan faction of the US government thinks.

What is the source of your news?? Dont indulge in hypothetical discussions.
 
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Nato denies US military pushing for Pakistan raids
AP
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KABUL: The US-led coalition in Afghanistan on Tuesday denied reports that American forces are pushing to expand special operations raids into tribal areas of neighbouring Pakistan.

Nato’s deputy chief of communications, US Rear Adm. Gregory Smith, said there was no truth to a report published in The New York Times.

Citing unnamed American officials in Washington, the Times reported on its website late Monday that US military commanders believe special operations forces could capture militants for interrogation, bringing in an intelligence windfall.

”There is absolutely no truth to reporting in The New York Times that US forces are planning to conduct ground operations into Pakistan,” Smith said.

He added that Nato and US forces, along with ”their Afghan partners, have developed a strong working relationship with the Pakistan military to address shared security issues. This coordination recognises the sovereignty of Afghanistan and Pakistan to pursue insurgents and terrorists operating in their respective border areas.”

Pakistan has firmly rejected any suggestion of US assistance and has in the past sternly protested when the US-led alliance had crossed the border into Pakistani tribal areas.

On September 30, Pakistan closed a key border crossing for 10 days, stranding Nato resupply trucks in an apparent protest over a Nato helicopter incursion that killed two Pakistani soldiers on the border. During the closure, almost 150 stranded trucks were destroyed by attackers.

The US has mainly relied on unmanned drones to pursue al Qaeda militants based in Pakistan. A decision to deploy special operations teams would signal frustration with Pakistan’s efforts to root out militants who use its territory as a base to support the Taliban and other extremists.

In response to the newspaper report, Pakistan’s ambassador to the US, Husain Haqqani, said, ”Pakistani forces are capable of handling the militant threat within our borders and no foreign forces are allowed or required to operate inside our sovereign territory. We work with our allies, especially the US, and appreciate their material support but we will not accept foreign troops on our soil — a position that is well known.”

He noted that Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had visited Pakistan recently and had ”acknowledged Pakistan’s contribution. Nothing discussed during his trip indicates the likelihood of ill-advised escalation or unilateral action by Nato troops beyond their mandate in Afghanistan.”

Last week, Mullen said in Kabul that he thought it was possible the Pakistani military could shut down Taliban hideouts on its soil to prevent insurgents from moving back and forth across the long, porous border with Afghanistan. He added that fixing the problem was critical to making progress in the war and that he was encouraged by what Pakistan had already done to go after insurgents on its side of the border.

Pakistan has made progress against safe havens over the past year in operations that have taken a toll on its forces, according to a five-page public summary of the White House’s classified Afghanistan War review that was released last week.

Pakistani authorities have almost exclusively focused on militants who pose a threat inside Pakistan. So far they have refused a US request to take on militants allegedly present in North Waziristan. It is also said to be the home base of the Haqqani network.

Analysts and Afghan government officials have accused Pakistan of protecting the Haqqani network as a potential ally that could be of use after the Americans and their coalition partners leave Afghanistan.

”Cross border coordination has and continues to disrupt and dismantle insurgent networks in select areas, with significant operations on both sides of the border removing large numbers of insurgent leaders and fighters,” Smith said.

The nine-year-old war in Afghanistan has grown increasingly unpopular in US public opinion polls as it drags on with no apparent exit strategy. Using special operations forces could increase pressure on the militants, or it could create new problems for Washington.

The newspaper said that Afghan militias backed by the CIA have in recent years carried out a number of secret missions into Pakistan. The operations had previously been described as limited to intelligence-gathering. But the report said that recent interviews had revealed that in at least one instance, the Afghans attacked and destroyed a militant weapons cache.

Officials who described the proposal for raids and the intelligence operations to the newspaper declined to be identified by name because they were discussing classified information, the report said.
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US has already conducted raids inside Pakistan killing innocent men, women and children... Its just that officially all of this is hushed down and we remain helpless due to the sell outs amongst our leadership within both Army and the Civilian government...
 
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Nato denies US military pushing for Pakistan raids
AP
(55 minutes ago) Today
KABUL: The US-led coalition in Afghanistan on Tuesday denied reports that American forces are pushing to expand special operations raids into tribal areas of neighbouring Pakistan.

Nato’s deputy chief of communications, US Rear Adm. Gregory Smith, said there was no truth to a report published in The New York Times.

Citing unnamed Am

NATO can deny it all they want, but the NYT will never retract or clarify their story. They are on an anti-Pakistan crusade... good luck to them. Perhaps they don't realize that they are actually making things harder for NATO, in comparison to the effect they are having on Pakistan.

There was an article in the WP I think, the very same day of the day before the NYT published this piece, giving a diametrically opposite picture. Reality no longer matters to the NYT. The shrill, shouting headline attacking Pakistan is their thing.
 
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This article says that India wants to persuade the US to ditch Pakistan as a partner (instead make Pakistan a terrorist country) and then team up with India to militarize them against China, and ultimately carve out an separate Tibet.

Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and Pakistan

China must be wary of such a wicked plot. China cannot allow India to defeat Pakistan, because then our Tibet is next.

Instead, China must be ready to militarize Pakistan against India! One option is to arm Kashmiris occupied by India with the latest Chinese infantry weapons. Suitcase nuclear weapons in the hands of Kashmiri separatists would be a blow to India too.

China can also arm Pakistani Army with the latest heavy Chinese weapons like Type 99A2 tanks, WS-2D MRLS and Z-10A helicopters. Send PLA trainers and advisers too.

China can also arm Taliban with advanced night-vision goggles, sniper rifles, anti-tank missiles and anti-air missiles. Suitcase nuclear weapons in the hands of the Taliban would be a blow to the US too.

In summary, China must be ready to embark on the most ambitious arms export program in the world: arming up the Pakistani Army, the Kashmiris and the Taliban with the most advanced Chinese weapons - at least one generation more effective than their current equipment. Even giving nuclear suitcase weapons to the Kashmiris and Taliban if necessary to stop US and India from taking down Pakistan, with Tibet to follow.
 
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Okay, if USA really starts to expand raids into Pakistan then everything will explode. The Pakistani people will not allow USA to occupy their country. The army will also oppose any civilian government officials who allow this. Then you end up with most of Pakistan turning against USA in anger. NATO supplies are cut off and blown away. Taliban start attacking in Afghanistan.

Eventually USA will call Pakistan a terrorist state and try to seize Pakistan Army's nukes. It will need India's help to occupy Pakistan and Afghanistan. But China is not going to allow USA and India get together to carve up Pakistan. So China will attack India too.

Are we close to this point yet? Or does the NYT article just say what the anti-Pakistan faction of the US government thinks.

With a neighbour like China who need friends
 
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There is absolutely no truth to reporting in the New York Times that U.S. forces are planning to conduct ground operations into Pakistan. ISAF and U.S. Forces, along with their Afghan partners have developed a strong working relationship with the Pakistan military to address shared security issues. This coordination recognizes the sovereignty of Afghanistan and Pakistan to pursue insurgents and terrorists operating in their respective border areas. Cross border coordination has and continues to disrupt and dismantle insurgent networks in select areas, with significant operations on both sides of the border removing large numbers of insurgent leaders and fighters.

Also, ODRP sent a letter today to General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, Chief of Army Staff, Pakistan Army General Headquarters, Rawalpindi, Pakistan saying exactly the same thing.


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