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In early 2011, then-CIA Director Leon Panetta confronted the president of Pakistan with a disturbing piece of intelligence. The spy agency had learned that Mohammad Omar, the Taliban leader who had become one of the world’s most wanted fugitives after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, was being treated at a hospital in southern Pakistan.

The American spy chief even identified the facility — the Aga Khan University Hospital in Karachi — and said the CIA had “some raw intelligence on this” that would soon be shared with its Pakistani counterpart, according to diplomatic files that summarize the exchange.

U.S. intelligence officials now believe that Omar probably died two years later, in 2013, and Afghan officials said this week that he succumbed while being treated for a serious illness in a Karachi hospital, just as those earlier intelligence reports had indicated.

The belated disclosure this week of Omar’s death has added to the legend of the ghost-like Taliban chief, a figure so elusive that it appears to have taken U.S. spy agencies two years to determine that one of their top targets after 9/11 was no longer alive.

But the emerging details of Omar’s death may also help explain the extent to which his ability to remain both influential and invisible was a reflection of the competing and often hidden agendas in the counterterrorism partnership between the United States and Pakistan.

Current and former U.S. officials said that despite intermittent intelligence on Omar’s whereabouts, there was never a concerted push to find him that remotely approached the scale of the manhunt for al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

At the same time, the one-eyed Taliban leader’s apparent ability to get medical treatment in the port city of Karachi has bolstered long-standing suspicions that Omar was being sheltered by Pakistan.

Milt Bearden, a former CIA operative in Pakistan and Afghanistan, said “it is beyond puzzling” that Omar’s death could go unconfirmed for so long, especially given the intelligence and surveillance capabilities of the United States.

But “it’s another case of why intelligence collection in that part of the world is so difficult,” Bearden said. “The truth is layered, and there are multiple agendas, none of which we ever really understand.”

U.S. intelligence agencies have not yet corroborated claims by Afghan authorities that Omar died in a Karachi hospital but noted that Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency had ties to the Taliban dating back to the 1980s when the ISI served as a conduit for U.S. arms and money to Islamist militants fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan.

A Pakistani official described claims that Omar died in Pakistan or that the government was even aware of his presence in the country as “unfounded speculation.”

“There is no certainty about the date or place of his death,” said Nadeem Hotiana, a spokesman for the Pakistan embassy in Washington. Hotiana noted that a statement released by the Taliban on Thursday confirming Omar’s death “categorically mentions that Mullah Omar never left Afghanistan.”

U.S. officials attributed the belated determination that Omar had died to a range of factors, including the extremely reclusive nature of a figure for whom there is only one widely circulated photograph. The officials also noted the frequency with which rumors of his demise had been previously proved wrong.

Omar was said to be afflicted with illnesses ranging from kidney failure to meningitis. U.S. officials said intelligence analysts began to suspect Omar had died a year or more ago but only reached that conclusion more recently, based on new information as well as a gradual accumulation of evidence.

The CIA declined to comment on Omar’s death or the exchange between Panetta and then-Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari described in diplomatic documents obtained by The Post.

Their meeting in January 2011 came when Zardari was in the United States to attend a memorial service for U.S. diplomat Richard Holbrooke.

Former U.S. and Pakistani officials said Panetta’s disclosure was designed in part to prod Pakistan to detain Omar but also to serve notice that the CIA was aware of the Taliban leader’s presumably sanctioned presence in Pakistan.

Other U.S. officials also made clear in other meetings their belief that Pakistan was protecting Omar and other elements of the Taliban. In Islamabad in 2011, Vice President Biden warned then-Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani that relations with Afghanistan wouldn’t improve until Pakistan answered difficult questions including “what do we say about Mullah Omar,” according to a separate diplomatic document.

In 2010, during a briefing with Pakistani officials on a White House strategy review for the region, Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said that “while Pakistan has done a lot to deny safe havens to terrorists . . . senior leadership of the Quetta Shura including Mullah Omar resides between Karachi and Quetta,” according to a third diplomatic document.

Current and former U.S. officials said they knew of no effort by the CIA to mount an operation to apprehend Omar even after learning he was in declining health in a Karachi hospital.

The agency also had other pressing priorities at the time. Among them was seeking to confirm the location of bin Laden at a compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, that was the site of a raid by U.S. Navy SEALs four months later.

The pace of the CIA’s drone campaign in Pakistan was a growing source of friction with Pakistan. And just two weeks after the Panetta-Zardari meeting, CIA contractor Raymond Davis was taken into custody after killing two Pakistani men in a shootout on a bustling street in Lahore.

Even before those events, officials said, the CIA’s hunt for Taliban figures never matched the intensity of its pursuit of al-Qaeda.

“We were overwhelmingly focused on al-Qaeda, and there were many fewer instances where we had what we thought was halfway-reliable information on the whereabouts of senior members of the Taliban,” said Robert Grenier, the former CIA station chief in Pakistan and former head of its Counterterrorism Center.

There was also a clear limit to the cooperation from the ISI.

“Pretty quickly you could see a pattern,” Grenier said. “Where the ISI was very effective working with us in tracking down al-Qaeda, any time we had a lead on senior member of the Taliban, the Pakistanis weren’t successful in following up.”

Pakistan also repeatedly rebuffed requests by the CIA to send drones over Quetta, the city where Taliban leaders were based after fleeing Afghanistan in 2001. When a senior Taliban figure was detained in 2010, it was only by accident. U.S. officials said Pakistan didn’t know Abdul Ghani Baradar was present at the Karachi compound when he was arrested, and he was released in 2013.

A former Pakistani official said parts of the government may have sought to keep Omar’s death secret out of fear that Taliban factions would splinter without him and damage Islamabad’s ability to influence peace talks with Afghanistan.

The former official said there was even internal deception. The former official said the ISI told Pakistani leaders in March this year “that Mullah Omar is seriously ill and his condition is deteriorating.”

U.S. intelligence had suspected that Mohammad Omar was ill in Pakistan - The Washington Post
 
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Mullah Omar was not a terrorist. If he was, US would not have been publicly talking to Taliban.

Fact is Taliban never were terrorists. They were offspring of a violent period of Afghan history but were very much Afghan and established exemplary peace in mid 90s Afghanistan when the Mujahideen were slitting each others throats and the country was in bigger turmoil than it was under Soviet occupation.

Twist the facts and you can easily term them terrorists.

We have come round a full circle to accept Afghan Taliban legitimacy. Talking to them is a testament to that reality. Instead of terming them terrorists for decade and a half, it would have been much better to accept their legitimacy and to to talk to them instead of fighting them. Fighting has resulted in loss of thousands of lives of both sides of the war.
 
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In early 2011, then-CIA Director Leon Panetta confronted the president of Pakistan with a disturbing piece of intelligence. The spy agency had learned that Mohammad Omar, the Taliban leader who had become one of the world’s most wanted fugitives after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, was being treated at a hospital in southern Pakistan.

The American spy chief even identified the facility — the Aga Khan University Hospital in Karachi — and said the CIA had “some raw intelligence on this” that would soon be shared with its Pakistani counterpart, according to diplomatic files that summarize the exchange.

U.S. intelligence officials now believe that Omar probably died two years later, in 2013, and Afghan officials said this week that he succumbed while being treated for a serious illness in a Karachi hospital, just as those earlier intelligence reports had indicated.

The belated disclosure this week of Omar’s death has added to the legend of the ghost-like Taliban chief, a figure so elusive that it appears to have taken U.S. spy agencies two years to determine that one of their top targets after 9/11 was no longer alive.

But the emerging details of Omar’s death may also help explain the extent to which his ability to remain both influential and invisible was a reflection of the competing and often hidden agendas in the counterterrorism partnership between the United States and Pakistan.

Current and former U.S. officials said that despite intermittent intelligence on Omar’s whereabouts, there was never a concerted push to find him that remotely approached the scale of the manhunt for al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

At the same time, the one-eyed Taliban leader’s apparent ability to get medical treatment in the port city of Karachi has bolstered long-standing suspicions that Omar was being sheltered by Pakistan.

Milt Bearden, a former CIA operative in Pakistan and Afghanistan, said “it is beyond puzzling” that Omar’s death could go unconfirmed for so long, especially given the intelligence and surveillance capabilities of the United States.

But “it’s another case of why intelligence collection in that part of the world is so difficult,” Bearden said. “The truth is layered, and there are multiple agendas, none of which we ever really understand.”

U.S. intelligence agencies have not yet corroborated claims by Afghan authorities that Omar died in a Karachi hospital but noted that Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency had ties to the Taliban dating back to the 1980s when the ISI served as a conduit for U.S. arms and money to Islamist militants fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan.

A Pakistani official described claims that Omar died in Pakistan or that the government was even aware of his presence in the country as “unfounded speculation.”

“There is no certainty about the date or place of his death,” said Nadeem Hotiana, a spokesman for the Pakistan embassy in Washington. Hotiana noted that a statement released by the Taliban on Thursday confirming Omar’s death “categorically mentions that Mullah Omar never left Afghanistan.”

U.S. officials attributed the belated determination that Omar had died to a range of factors, including the extremely reclusive nature of a figure for whom there is only one widely circulated photograph. The officials also noted the frequency with which rumors of his demise had been previously proved wrong.

Omar was said to be afflicted with illnesses ranging from kidney failure to meningitis. U.S. officials said intelligence analysts began to suspect Omar had died a year or more ago but only reached that conclusion more recently, based on new information as well as a gradual accumulation of evidence.

The CIA declined to comment on Omar’s death or the exchange between Panetta and then-Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari described in diplomatic documents obtained by The Post.

Their meeting in January 2011 came when Zardari was in the United States to attend a memorial service for U.S. diplomat Richard Holbrooke.

Former U.S. and Pakistani officials said Panetta’s disclosure was designed in part to prod Pakistan to detain Omar but also to serve notice that the CIA was aware of the Taliban leader’s presumably sanctioned presence in Pakistan.

Other U.S. officials also made clear in other meetings their belief that Pakistan was protecting Omar and other elements of the Taliban. In Islamabad in 2011, Vice President Biden warned then-Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani that relations with Afghanistan wouldn’t improve until Pakistan answered difficult questions including “what do we say about Mullah Omar,” according to a separate diplomatic document.

In 2010, during a briefing with Pakistani officials on a White House strategy review for the region, Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said that “while Pakistan has done a lot to deny safe havens to terrorists . . . senior leadership of the Quetta Shura including Mullah Omar resides between Karachi and Quetta,” according to a third diplomatic document.

Current and former U.S. officials said they knew of no effort by the CIA to mount an operation to apprehend Omar even after learning he was in declining health in a Karachi hospital.

The agency also had other pressing priorities at the time. Among them was seeking to confirm the location of bin Laden at a compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, that was the site of a raid by U.S. Navy SEALs four months later.

The pace of the CIA’s drone campaign in Pakistan was a growing source of friction with Pakistan. And just two weeks after the Panetta-Zardari meeting, CIA contractor Raymond Davis was taken into custody after killing two Pakistani men in a shootout on a bustling street in Lahore.

Even before those events, officials said, the CIA’s hunt for Taliban figures never matched the intensity of its pursuit of al-Qaeda.

“We were overwhelmingly focused on al-Qaeda, and there were many fewer instances where we had what we thought was halfway-reliable information on the whereabouts of senior members of the Taliban,” said Robert Grenier, the former CIA station chief in Pakistan and former head of its Counterterrorism Center.

There was also a clear limit to the cooperation from the ISI.

“Pretty quickly you could see a pattern,” Grenier said. “Where the ISI was very effective working with us in tracking down al-Qaeda, any time we had a lead on senior member of the Taliban, the Pakistanis weren’t successful in following up.”

Pakistan also repeatedly rebuffed requests by the CIA to send drones over Quetta, the city where Taliban leaders were based after fleeing Afghanistan in 2001. When a senior Taliban figure was detained in 2010, it was only by accident. U.S. officials said Pakistan didn’t know Abdul Ghani Baradar was present at the Karachi compound when he was arrested, and he was released in 2013.

A former Pakistani official said parts of the government may have sought to keep Omar’s death secret out of fear that Taliban factions would splinter without him and damage Islamabad’s ability to influence peace talks with Afghanistan.

The former official said there was even internal deception. The former official said the ISI told Pakistani leaders in March this year “that Mullah Omar is seriously ill and his condition is deteriorating.”

U.S. intelligence had suspected that Mohammad Omar was ill in Pakistan - The Washington Post

He was a friendly head of state that was deposed in 2001. What is wrong with Pakistan having treated him. I hope Pakistan looked after Mullah Omar and gave him full gun salute on his burial. He is to us like Charles De Gaulle was with the Allies. I hope Pakistan is looking after his family. I don't know about America but I would like to think that Pakistan stands by it's friends.

Mullah Omar RIP.
 
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Mullah Omar was not a terrorist. If he was, US would not have been publicly talking to Taliban.
Yeah , he is a good terrorist as per pakistans strategy:P. Americans change their standing based on the requirements of their strategy. Cuba was a terrorist country so is Iran for americans. Well but for how long? Once they become chums with americans they become good guys. Americans have decided that this idiot does no longer poses any threat so lets keep him in good humor and remove him from list.
 
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Ok i believe you just like you killed OBL in abbotabad. Keep getting better and better.

Yeah , he is a good terrorist as per pakistans strategy:P.
He defended his country against a bunch of foreign invaders and never killed a innocent.Only hypocrites who deny this facts are real terrorists.
 
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Mullah Omar was not a terrorist. If he was, US would not have been publicly talking to Taliban.

Fact is Taliban never were terrorists. They were offspring of a violent period of Afghan history but were very much Afghan and established exemplary peace in mid 90s Afghanistan when the Mujahideen were slitting each others throats and the country was in bigger turmoil than it was under Soviet occupation.

Twist the facts and you can easily term them terrorists.

We have come round a full circle to accept Afghan Taliban legitimacy. Talking to them is a testament to that reality. Instead of terming them terrorists for decade and a half, it would have been much better to accept their legitimacy and to to talk to them instead of fighting them. Fighting has resulted in loss of thousands of lives of both sides of the war.


May i ask you pakistani, if afgan taliban is not terrorist organisation, then what makes TTP a terrorist organisation???
 
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May i ask you pakistani, if afgan taliban is not terrorist organisation, then what makes TTP a terrorist organisation???

Afghan Taliban was a government that was desposed by foreign invader. Thus Afghan Taliban went underground. It's status is equivalent to the French Resistance in WW2 France.

Afghan Taliban > Government in exile > French Resistance > Mullah Omar > Charles De Gaulle
TTP > IRA in Ireland > Basque terrorists in Spain > PKK in Turkey
 
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Afghan Taliban was a government that was desposed by foreign invader. Thus Afghan Taliban went underground. It's status is equivalent to the French Resistance in WW2 France.

Afghan Taliban > Government in exile > French Resistance > Mullah Omar > Charles De Gaulle
TTP > IRAin Ireland > Basque terrorists in Spain > PKK in Turkey
Great logic :angry:. This is how world thinks
Afghanistan == cambodia
Omar == pol pot
One eyed evil dictator == evil dictator
wahabi islam == rabid communism
pakistan == china
Khmer Rouge == taliban
committed genocide == committed genocide


What prevents taliban from contesting elections and winning them ? Oh of course they are haram. Like all fundamental islamist regimes they take over power by force claiming they are guardians of faith and they deserve to rule others .
 
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Great logic :angry:. This is how world thinks
Afghanistan == cambodia
Omar == pol pot
One eyed evil dictator == evil dictator
wahabi islam == rabid communism
pakistan == china
Khmer Rouge == taliban
committed genocide == committed genocide


What prevents taliban from contesting elections and winning them ? Oh of course they are haram. Like all fundamental islamist regimes they take over power by force claiming they are guardians of faith and they deserve to rule others .

Don't be a imbecile. What is the "world" anyway? The world is made up of so many countries all peddling their agenda just like you or I are doing. I have already stated my thinking and Pakistan I trust will not abandon the Afghan Taliban. Who told you Mullah Omar is Pol Pot? Fox News???
 
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Afghan Taliban was a government that was desposed by foreign invader. Thus Afghan Taliban went underground. It's status is equivalent to the French Resistance in WW2 France.

Afghan Taliban > Government in exile > French Resistance > Mullah Omar > Charles De Gaulle
TTP > IRAin Ireland > Basque terrorists in Spain > PKK in Turkey


Yup.. ISIL also can say the same. Invaders came,we are fighting their puppet to take our country back. But at the end of the day, both are two islamist terror organisation who came to power by the authority of gun. Just last week taliban bombed afgan KABUL MARKET and killed 21 AFGAN PEOPLES. But again for pakistanis, they are not terrorists bcz they are bombing afgan markets and killing afgan peoples. No pakistani dead. so it is good terrorism.But when ttp or BLA bomb market, it is terrorism.
 
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He was a friendly head of state that was deposed in 2001. What is wrong with Pakistan having treated him. I hope Pakistan looked after Mullah Omar and gave him full gun salute on his burial. He is to us like Charles De Gaulle was with the Allies. I hope Pakistan is looking after his family. I don't know about America but I would like to think that Pakistan stands by it's friends.

Mullah Omar RIP.

why stopped wth the saint Mullah Omar? plz type

Osama Bin Laden RIP
Hakimullah Mehsud RIP as well
 
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What is the "world" anyway?

When talibal assumed control over afganistan, only 3 countries in the world recogonised them . The rest of the planet about 190+ nations doesnot recogonised them and treated them as whom they are.ie bunch of Ak holding terrorists. I hope this will help you to understand how 'world' look at them.
 
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He is to us like Charles De Gaulle was with the Allies.
So are you comparing Mullah Omar with Charles De Gaulle?? :woot: :rofl:

You're not serious are you? That's akin to comparing Talib Haqqani to George Washington! :cheesy:
 
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