U.S. Challenges China on Disputed Islands

[JayAtl]

May not feel pain in dreams?

sorry is that a some ole chinese proverb ?

I got one- may feel good dreams grasshopper!

 

[us1956]

what's troll about that,both U.S and China were beaten by Vietnam,that's a big truth now part of history

2 things you need to learn
1- U.S. lost the 1975 war to Vietnam not because of politics- it was a withdrawal
2- if China lost the war to Vietnam?? then how Vietnam had to cede about 25% of lands from 2 provinces (CAO BANG & LANG SON) to China.
read a bit more...it may surprise how much you don't know, young man

 

[ViXuyen]

2 things you need to learn
1- U.S. lost the 1975 war to Vietnam not because of politics- it was a withdrawal
2- if China lost the war to Vietnam?? then how Vietnam had to cede about 25% of lands from 2 provinces (CAO BANG & LANG SON) to China.
read a bit more...it may surprise how much you don't know, young man

Give me a break with your propaganda. If Vietnam lost 25% of its territory of Cao Bang and Lang Son then there would be no Vietnamese visible anywhere close to the "Friendship Gate" nowadays

Why don't you look at the treaty of the Gulf of Tonkin between Vietnam and China heh, Vietnam still take 53% of the total sea area.

 

[us1956]

Give me a break with your propaganda. If Vietnam lost 25% of its territory of Cao Bang and Lang Son then there would be no Vietnamese visible anywhere close to the "Friendship Gate" nowadays

Why don't you look at the treaty of the Gulf of Tonkin between Vietnam and China heh, Vietnam still take 53% of the total sea area.

the current land border treaty between China and Vietnam is the one "signed by both countries on Dec 31, 2008 is the one counted (redrawn the border line). don't try to hold on to the "gulf of Tonkin treaty" even you don't like the Vietnamese current regime.
most of Vietnamese did not know the treaty until the "ceremony at the new border and attended by VN foreign minister in April 2009" which caused people protested against VN in and outside country

 

[need2nomore]

Brainwashing continues... Britan does not reconize Tibet belonging to china. Shoot they even allow dalai lama to visit them and call out chinese govt

god you're lame. not recognizing territorial integrity of china = no diplomatic relations. its not up for debate.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

My naive and well meaning friend. It's an all or nothing game here, sharing is not caring. The islands themselves are worthless. What is valuable is the fact that if you control the islands you control the seas around it for 200 miles. This area of ocean is home to crucial sea lanes and natural gas reserves. One must have total control over the islands to claim the seas around it.

I recall another Asian neighbour of yours who had a mentality similar to yours in the 30's. Their expansionist policy was cut off at its tail. You should learn from history.

 

[ViXuyen]

the current land border treaty between China and Vietnam is the one "signed by both countries on Dec 31, 2008 is the one counted (redrawn the border line). don't try to hold on to the "gulf of Tonkin treaty" even you don't like the Vietnamese current regime.
most of Vietnamese did not know the treaty until the "ceremony at the new border and attended by VN foreign minister in April 2009" which caused people protested against VN in and outside country

Are you making up stuff to save face? A land treaty that Vietnam lost 25% of Cao Bang and Lang Son? Haha, if that is the case, there would be no snow reported in Cao Bang and Lang Son in Vietnam in 2011

The Gulf of Tonkin Treaty is real and signed by both nations with Vietnam taking 53% of the total area of the gulf, not some phantome treaty that Vietnam lost 25% of its territory, and defintely not in the places like Cao Bang and Lang Son

 

[Aramsogo]

Doing Business and being liked or respected is another. Pakistan does business with India too. There is no made up US media ( you see we have a FREE MEDIA) rather China media ( Propoganda machine for the govt.)

You are extremely naive if you truly believe the US has "Free Media". Everyone knows US media & Hollywood is controlled by Jews. Try to say anything even remotely anti-semitic and you'll lose your livelihood. Just ask Charlie Sheen. He called a Chuck Lorre by his real name Chaim Levine and lost his job.

 

[gpit]

The issue here is really very simply -

If china controls it- it won't allow maritime access to all, if other countries (note: Us won't) controls it- then everybody gets to enjoy maritime access , even china.

Problem is: China threatens countries too much - look at the noble prize threats. Yeah , get mad but to threaten sanctions like they did? there is no Grey here with them - it's black or white. The world cannot afford such absolutist

God bless the USA

Don't attempt to hijack US into this scenario. US democracy is not Indian democracy where your elites starve Indian first, then illiterate them, then say “I have food. Come fetch it and vote for me.” Done!

Nay, it doesn't work this way.

In fact, as close as yesterday, people here start to cry, feeling China's inflation starts to have dent in US price.

BTW, which God can you summon up to bless USA? Siva or Vishnu?

 

[gpit]

The difference is US and Canada are great friends- while the other countries here hate china and want the US to step in against the bully.

How can you represent all other countries in the world?

It must be your hunger that causes your hallucination.

BTW, India and Pakistan used to be a single country, that is, one country, not two. But your foolishness makes it into two.

 

[gpit]

Chinese, British leaders affirm ties in Beijing - Hurriyet Daily News and Economic Review

5000 British and 5000 Chinese can split administration between us. 200 British can probably administer Bombay, 200 more can administer Calcutta, and we'll just take New Delhi. Except for Kerala the rest of India can become low wage slaves working on British plantations.

Yeah, you are right.

But we must handpick an Indian as Maharajadhiraja, and let him keep voting in their way, such that India will never be important, at least to USA:

February 9, 2011 Gallup: China Tops List of Countries Vitally Important to U.S.; Egypt 9th

 

[gpit]

Doing Business and being liked or respected is another. Pakistan does business with India too. There is no made up US media ( you see we have a FREE MEDIA) rather China media ( Propoganda machine for the govt.), wrote about the govt who threatened sanctions on countries if they attended the Nobel peace prize ceremony . don't you think that's taking it a bit far? lodge a protest but threaten sanctions makes them a bully...thats why countries can't wait to dump chain as no 1 trading partner. India is going after it strong...a recent article even spoke to that strategy .

I think some of your statements are right. But, the problem is that the Chinese don’t want 2,000,000 children to die of hunger every year, which is more an important goal than Nobel Prize, than voting, than face-lift democracy, than vast illiteracy. Because they believe, without a life there is none of these for the person.

I know it's beyond your comprehension...

 

[anon45]

You are extremely naive if you truly believe the US has "Free Media". Everyone knows US media & Hollywood is controlled by Jews. Try to say anything even remotely anti-semitic and you'll lose your livelihood. Just ask Charlie Sheen. He called a Chuck Lorre by his real name Chaim Levine and lost his job.

Erm what? What's your definition of 'everyone'? I can tell you you are in a small and fringe minority in the US. Perhaps you are speaking of Pakistan or Palestine?

 

[Tigershark]

Erm what? What's your definition of 'everyone'? I can tell you you are in a small and fringe minority in the US. Perhaps you are speaking of Pakistan or Palestine?

You haven't answered the question--does the US have a "free" media when it is controlled by powerful corporations bent on advancing its own interest at the expense of the public?

 

[Aramsogo]

Erm what? What's your definition of 'everyone'? I can tell you you are in a small and fringe minority in the US. Perhaps you are speaking of Pakistan or Palestine?

I am not in a small and fringe minority in the US. Everyone is just afraid to say anything. That Jews control Hollywood/Media isn't even in dispute. I can supply a long list of Jewish people that control Hollywood and US Media, but what's the point? You will believe what you believe.

Sheen and Galliano are only the latest example. Both lost their jobs. There are many other examples over the years. Sheen could beat his wife and threaten her life with a knife. Go on cocaine binges and have tons of prostitutes and still keep his job. The minute he says something remotely anti-semitic, HE'S FIRED. The truth is the truth. At least Chinese people know their media is controlled.

Helen Thomas (an 80 year woman) lost her job for saying the following in the US FREE MEDIA:

Helen Thomas, White House correspondent for Hearst Newspapers, gave an interview to Rabbi David Nesenoff of RabbiLive.com at the White House’s May 27 Jewish Heritage Celebration . Rabbi Nesenoff posted a clip from the video on YouTube. Here’s the transcript:

Nesenoff: Any comments on Israel? We’re asking everybody today–

Thomas: Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine.

Nesenoff: Ooh. Any better comments?

Thomas (chuckling): Remember, these people are occupied, and it’s their land, not German and not Polish.

Nesenoff: So where should they go? What should they do?

Thomas: They should go home.

Nesenoff: Where is home?

Thomas: Poland. Germany.

Nesenoff: So you’re saying the Jews should go back to Poland and Germany?

Thomas: And America, and everywhere else.