U.S. Aircraft Carrier Enters Zone Near Iranian Oil Route as Tensions Rise

[Oldman1]

Which begs the question, why does North Korea still exists?

Simple because MacArthur was fired. But the good question is why did North Korea and China failed to conquer South Korea which was the main objective.

 

[Obambam]

Simple because MacArthur was fired.

For failing to secure the American objective and bs'ing his country and troops about coming home for Christmas?

Don't tell readers here that America does not have anyone, from then till now, that is more capable to replace him with who can wipe North Korea off the world map.

But the good question is why did North Korea and China failed to conquer South Korea which was the main objective.

Wrong the main objective is to ensure nothing gets spilled beyond the borders of China. America on the other hand wanted to destroy communism, THAT my friend was America's main objective. North Korea's existence irks them even on this very day

 

[Thorough Pro]

IN means Iranian Navy here I assume, not Indian navy .

We are discussing Iran here, aren't we?

 

[T-Rex]

hold strong Iran. US against Iraq was a total joke. The real matter you should look to is Korean War.

In November of 1950, US forces were at the Yalu.
In May of 1951, Chinese forces took Seoul.

We crossed the Yalu and never looked back. Pyongyang was occupied only once; Seoul changed hands 5 times, and Pyongyang is only 100 km from the border.

There's nothing to fear, if the US attacks Iran, the Persian Gulf will just be a big graveyard for the carriers.

The US knows this, so they are going to bark a lot but they are not going to bite!

 

[NiceGuy]

What do you mean "China still can not take back Taiwan"? It can anytime they want, if they use army. China wants peaceful integration, which has nothing to do with "can not take back".

You're funny dude, China army is far inferior than US seven fleet, China can not find out any ways to take Taiwan back to expand her sea territory, that why she try to rob ASEAN's sea territories. China even can kill their own people in Tienanmen, so why can not she kill some Taiwanese to take Taiwan back ??

btw: It's juts my suggesstion to you, it's no shame for Iran to avoid mighty US forces , even China has to avoid US seven fleet too.

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Which begs the question, why does North Korea still exists?

Bcz US didn't care much about N.Korean, so US didn't fight with full forces

Factors in US intervention
The Truman Administration was caught at a crossroads. Before the invasion, Korea was not included in the strategic Asian Defense Perimeter outlined by Secretary of State Acheson.[69] Military strategists were more concerned with the security of Europe against the Soviet Union than East Asia. At the same time, the Administration was worried that a war in Korea could quickly widen into another world war should the Chinese or Soviets decide to get involved as well.

One facet of the changing attitude toward Korea and whether to get involved was Japan. Especially after the fall of China to the Communists, "...Japan itself increasingly appeared as the major East Asian prize to be protected". US East Asian experts saw Japan as the critical counterweight to the Soviet Union and China in the region. While there was no United States policy that dealt with South Korea directly as a national interest, its proximity to Japan pushed South Korea to the fore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

 

[T-Rex]

You're funny dude, China army is far inferior than US seven fleet, China can not find out any ways to take Taiwan back to expand her sea territory, that why she try to rob ASEAN's sea territories. China even can kill their own people in Tienanmen, so why can not she kill some Taiwanese to take Taiwan back ??

btw: It's juts my suggesstion to you, it's no shame for Iran to avoid mighty US forces , even China has to avoid US seven fleet too.

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Bcz US didn't care much about N.Korean, so US didn't fight with full forces


Korean War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We know, how desperately you want Taiwan to fight your fight, but it's not going to happen. So, it will be wise for you to stick to the topic and the topic is Iran, not Taiwan or China.

 

[huzihaidao12]

You're funny dude, China army is far inferior than US seven fleet, China can not find out any ways to take Taiwan back to expand her sea territory, that why she try to rob ASEAN's sea territories. China even can kill their own people in Tienanmen, so why can not she kill some Taiwanese to take Taiwan back ??

btw: It's juts my suggesstion to you, it's no shame for Iran to avoid mighty US forces , even China has to avoid US seven fleet too.



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Bcz US didn't care much about N.Korean, so US didn't fight with full forces


Korean War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I just tell you one thing, to update knowledge for China, the United States has been followed by China's information, so they know some, but it looks like the Vietnamese did not.

Only the Seventh Fleet to prevent Chinese? Those days are gone.

 

[below_freezing]

You're funny dude, China army is far inferior than US seven fleet, China can not find out any ways to take Taiwan back to expand her sea territory, that why she try to rob ASEAN's sea territories. China even can kill their own people in Tienanmen, so why can not she kill some Taiwanese to take Taiwan back ??

btw: It's juts my suggesstion to you, it's no shame for Iran to avoid mighty US forces , even China has to avoid US seven fleet too.

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Bcz US didn't care much about N.Korean, so US didn't fight with full forces


Korean War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

kid, we aren't robbing ASEAN, you are robbing us. You are the thief and we're just taking out the trash by throwing your sailors into the ocean.

BTW, Taiwan used to control 99.99999% of China, now they control 0.00001% of China, maybe one day Vietnamese will control 0.00001% of original Vietnam. Maybe we can let you live on the islands, and we'll have mainland Vietnam instead, how's that

 

[huzihaidao12]

Simple because MacArthur was fired. But the good question is why did North Korea and China failed to conquer South Korea which was the main objective.

That is civil war, not aggression, as the Chinese CCP and KMT fighting. U.S. intervention is the real problem, failure of U.S. intervention in China, but the success of U.S. intervention in Korea, China just let everything back to square one.

 

[acetophenol]

The US knows this, so they are going to bark a lot but they are not going to bite!

If iran really bites,i.e if they cut of the oil supply,
US will bite back too.

 

[Obambam]

Bcz US didn't care much about N.Korean, so US didn't fight with full forces

Korean War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wrong. It was because they cannot afford a full scale war that directly involves both USSR and China.

Factors in US intervention
The Truman Administration was caught at a crossroads. Before the invasion, Korea was not included in the strategic Asian Defense Perimeter outlined by Secretary of State Acheson.[69] Military strategists were more concerned with the security of Europe against the Soviet Union than East Asia. At the same time, the Administration was worried that a war in Korea could quickly widen into another world war should the Chinese or Soviets decide to get involved as well.

Korea was a proxy war against China and Russia which the Americans have politically lost, just like they did in the case of Vietnam.

 

[anonymus]

For failing to secure the American objective and bs'ing his country and troops about coming home for Christmas?

Don't tell readers here that America does not have anyone, from then till now, that is more capable to replace him with who can wipe North Korea off the world map.



Wrong the main objective is to ensure nothing gets spilled beyond the borders of China. America on the other hand wanted to destroy communism, THAT my friend was America's main objective. North Korea's existence irks them even on this very day

He was fired because he wanted to nuke china.

Why Truman Fired General MacArthur

 

[NiceGuy]

kid, we aren't robbing ASEAN, you are robbing us. You are the thief and we're just taking out the trash by throwing your sailors into the ocean.

BTW, Taiwan used to control 99.99999% of China, now they control 0.00001% of China, maybe one day Vietnamese will control 0.00001% of original Vietnam. Maybe we can let you live on the islands, and we'll have mainland Vietnam instead, how's that

If we are robbing from you, so sue ASEAN to international course , why dare not China to do it ?? simply answer: China is rober

And your general admit China army is far inferior than US army already, so who cares about some Ah Q here keep bragging about Chinese controlling Tawain ?Inferior forces wanna win the war must have some special tactic, China doesn't have it but "human wave"

Wrong. It was because they cannot afford a full scale war that directly involves both USSR and China.

SK is not US's national interest so why must they use the best forces to fight against Soviet-China ??? Try to attack Japan to harm US's national interest if you can

 

[T-Rex]

If iran really bites,i.e if they cut of the oil supply,
US will bite back too.

It's more like this, if the US tries to stop Iran from exporting its crude oil Iran will retaliate, not the other way round!

 

[huzihaidao12]

If we are robbing from you, so sue ASEAN to international course , why dare not China to do it ?? simply answer: China is rober

And your general admit China army is far inferior than US army already, so who cares about some Ah Q here keep bragging about Chinese controlling Tawain ?Inferior forces wanna win the war must have some special tactic, China doesn't have it but "human wave"

SK is not US's national interest so why must they use the best forces to fight against Soviet-China ??? Try to attack Japan to harm US's national interest if you can

I can answer you. It is very simple, because in most cases, only just to solve the territorial issue at the bilateral, may be war, may negotiate to solve it, but only bilateral, it is international practice.

As China's military strength, you can ask the views of the United States, their message is more than enough to Vietnam.