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Two Indian soldiers killed in LoC skirmish: Indian army

Until he die his last word heard by fellow soldier. That means his head was intact but now indians claim his head is missing. If that is the case indians are the one beheaded their own soldiers. Now india refusing let independent UN inquery further proves indian propaganda lie and blatant effort to hide their crime against their own soldiers.
Abe chutiy*, He died saying these words and when the patrol returned after taking back the injured soldiers, they found the head missing.

'Before he fell prey to bullet wounds' ! :tup:
Apparently we cut off his head afterwards; would be nice if we'd stop talking in conjectures & have some proof in this case !
Do you think any one wants to discuss. Come to senior cafe. At least there people are listening to each other.
 
Abe chutiy*, He died saying these words and when the patrol returned after taking back the injured soldiers, they found the head missing.

how many Indian soldiers were in a patrol?

if more than 4 even then it means the number of Injured Indians were high? if not then why they left the dead behind?





Do you think any one wants to discuss. Come to senior cafe. At least there people are listening to each other.

dont troll and dont resort to personal attacks then everyone is listening here too
 
And we let the head and mouth of the other Indian soldier intact to tell the story.

That you have to ask your jawans. And what the soldier meant by last words could be last words to him. Now that Bharat Mata ki Jai is the official and most popular salutation in the army. Also it could have been this soldier was a part of the backup team who just arrived after hearing the shots. And lance Naik Hemraj Singh could have been the one who was beheaded.

@the bangladeshi - stop quoting my post. I dont reply to inbreds who are just ranting here.
 
Once again indian propaganda lie caught red handed. I would suggest to propagate how indians killed and mutilated their own soldiers.

That you have to ask your jawans. And what the soldier meant by last words could be last words to him. Now that Bharat Mata ki Jai is the official and most popular salutation in the army. Also it could have been this soldier was a part of the backup team who just arrived after hearing the shots. And lance Naik Hemraj Singh could have been the one who was beheaded.

@the bangladeshi - stop quoting my post. I dont reply to inbreds who are just ranting here.

too many primate in india, you must been relased from zoo for overcrowding. That is unfortunate for us.
 
how many Indian soldiers were in a patrol?
if more than 4 even then it means the number of Injured Indians were high? if not then why they left the dead behind?
dont troll and dont resort to personal attacks then everyone is listening here too
First, a person has already explained this. If you have casulty on ground and injured soldiers, you take back the injured ones to safety, especially if there is mist and fog.

And as for personal attacks to this BD, he has been trolling since yesterday.
 
how many Indian soldiers were in a patrol?

if more than 4 even then it means the number of Injured Indians were high? if not then why they left the dead behind?

dont troll and dont resort to personal attacks then everyone is listening here too


logic tells, that the ones that were injured can be saved, and the ones killed cannot be, in the midst of heat of retaliation, the soldiers decided to carry the injured ones and came BACK for the dead, unlike some who chose to abandon, the Indian army came back for recovering the dead body and found the head missing.sitting in front of your PC don't ask dumb questions.

The loser Bangladeshi doesn't even have an IQ of a rat, don't get carried away by that ratA$$ comments.

Once again indian propaganda lie caught red handed. I would suggest to propagate how indians killed and mutilated their own soldiers.



too many primate in india, you must been relased from zoo for overcrowding. That is unfortunate for us.


there are some primates which we are shooting at the border.
 
India seeks to reduce tensions despite firefight
04:45 AM Jan 10, 2013
JAMMU (India) - India yesterday denounced Pakistan over a firefight in the disputed territory of Kashmir in which two Indian soldiers were killed, but the nuclear-armed rivals appeared determined to prevent the clash from escalating into a full diplomatic crisis.

India summoned Pakistan's envoy in New Delhi, Mr Salman Bashir, to lodge a "strong protest", accusing a group of Pakistani soldiers it said had crossed the heavily militarised Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir of "barbaric and inhuman" behaviour.

The body of one of the soldiers was found mutilated in a forested area on the side controlled by India, said Mr Rajesh K Kalia, spokesman for the Indian Army's Northern Command. However, he denied reports that one body had been decapitated and another had its throat slit.

India's External Affairs Minister sought to cool tensions, saying that exhaustive efforts to improve relations could be squandered if the situation was not contained.

"I think it is important in the long-term that what has happened should not be escalated," Mr Salman Khurshid told a news conference. "We cannot and must not allow the escalation of any unwholesome event like this."

Firing and small skirmishes are common along the 740km LoC despite a ceasefire that was agreed in 2003. But incursions by troops from either side are rare.

Retired Indian Army Brigadier Gurmeet Kanwal, who previously commanded a brigade on the LoC, said Tuesday's incident - about 600m from the de facto border - marked the most serious infiltration since the ceasefire was put in place.

Pakistan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs denied India's allegations of an incursion as "baseless and unfounded" and said in a statement that it was prepared for an investigation by a United Nations military observer group into recent ceasefire violations.

Like New Delhi, it stressed the need to pursue better relations, adding: "Pakistan is committed to a constructive, sustained and result-oriented process of engagement with India."

Nevertheless, a Pakistani army spokesman described India's charges as "propaganda" aimed at diverting attention away from an Indian incursion two days earlier in which one Pakistani soldier was killed.

India denies that its troops crossed over the line during last weekend's incident.

Mr Mushahid Hussain, a Pakistani senator and member of the Parliamentary Committee on National Security, said the Indian government - dogged by corruption scandals and facing a tough election as early as this year - was returning to "the war-like language of the past" for domestic political reasons.

"Pakistan has its hands full with a full-blown insurgency inside its borders. It doesn't suit Pakistani interests at all to raise the temperature along the LoC," he said.

It is unclear whether this latest clash between India and Pakistan will derail the steps the neighbours have taken to warm their relationship since the 2008 terror attacks on Mumbai by militants based in Pakistan.

Recent high-level negotiations have included a new visa agreement that eased restrictions for travellers and plans to bolster trade ties. Agencies


TODAYonline | World | India seeks to reduce tensions despite firefight
 
That you have to ask your jawans. And what the soldier meant by last words could be last words to him. Now that Bharat Mata ki Jai is the official and most popular salutation in the army. Also it could have been this soldier was a part of the backup team who just arrived after hearing the shots. And lance Naik Hemraj Singh could have been the one who was beheaded.@the bangladeshi - stop quoting my post. I dont reply to inbreds who are just ranting here.

The backup team arrived and left with injured also heard the dying soldier who died of gun shots and the backup team left the area unmanned ?
 
India seeks to reduce tensions despite firefight
04:45 AM Jan 10, 2013
JAMMU (India) - India yesterday denounced Pakistan over a firefight in the disputed territory of Kashmir in which two Indian soldiers were killed, but the nuclear-armed rivals appeared determined to prevent the clash from escalating into a full diplomatic crisis.

India summoned Pakistan's envoy in New Delhi, Mr Salman Bashir, to lodge a "strong protest", accusing a group of Pakistani soldiers it said had crossed the heavily militarised Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir of "barbaric and inhuman" behaviour.

The body of one of the soldiers was found mutilated in a forested area on the side controlled by India, said Mr Rajesh K Kalia, spokesman for the Indian Army's Northern Command. However, he denied reports that one body had been decapitated and another had its throat slit.

India's External Affairs Minister sought to cool tensions, saying that exhaustive efforts to improve relations could be squandered if the situation was not contained.

"I think it is important in the long-term that what has happened should not be escalated," Mr Salman Khurshid told a news conference. "We cannot and must not allow the escalation of any unwholesome event like this."

Firing and small skirmishes are common along the 740km LoC despite a ceasefire that was agreed in 2003. But incursions by troops from either side are rare.

Retired Indian Army Brigadier Gurmeet Kanwal, who previously commanded a brigade on the LoC, said Tuesday's incident - about 600m from the de facto border - marked the most serious infiltration since the ceasefire was put in place.

Pakistan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs denied India's allegations of an incursion as "baseless and unfounded" and said in a statement that it was prepared for an investigation by a United Nations military observer group into recent ceasefire violations.

Like New Delhi, it stressed the need to pursue better relations, adding: "Pakistan is committed to a constructive, sustained and result-oriented process of engagement with India."

Nevertheless, a Pakistani army spokesman described India's charges as "propaganda" aimed at diverting attention away from an Indian incursion two days earlier in which one Pakistani soldier was killed.

India denies that its troops crossed over the line during last weekend's incident.

Mr Mushahid Hussain, a Pakistani senator and member of the Parliamentary Committee on National Security, said the Indian government - dogged by corruption scandals and facing a tough election as early as this year - was returning to "the war-like language of the past" for domestic political reasons.

"Pakistan has its hands full with a full-blown insurgency inside its borders. It doesn't suit Pakistani interests at all to raise the temperature along the LoC," he said.

It is unclear whether this latest clash between India and Pakistan will derail the steps the neighbours have taken to warm their relationship since the 2008 terror attacks on Mumbai by militants based in Pakistan.

Recent high-level negotiations have included a new visa agreement that eased restrictions for travellers and plans to bolster trade ties. Agencies


TODAYonline | World | India seeks to reduce tensions despite firefight
 
logic tells, that the ones that were injured can be saved, and the ones killed cannot be, in the midst of heat of retaliation, the soldiers decided to carry the injured ones and came BACK for the dead, unlike some who chose to abandon, the Indian army came back for recovering the dead body and found the head missing.sitting in front of your PC don't ask dumb questions.

The loser Bangladeshi doesn't even have an IQ of a rat, don't get carried away by that ratA$$ comments.




there are some primates which we are shooting at the border.

How many were injured? can your Indian Govt and your Army give us the number of injured and how many Indian soldiers are in a patrol?
 
How many were injured? can your Indian Govt and your Army give us the number of injured and how many Indian soldiers are in a patrol?
Will it matter ? Seriously, will you accept the facts ? Even if we tell, you will say IA is lying.

See the entire threads, you all are saying IA is lying. Why will you believe this ?
 
The backup team arrived and left with injured also heard the dying soldier who died of gun shots and the backup team left the area unmanned ?

He could have died after they came..listen if you dont want to accept what happened that is fine by me. Its not as if I can ever convince you to the contrary. That is why I have by and large stayed away from this discussion.

The fault lies with our panty wearing political leadership as much as it lies with Pakistan..I just hope the commanders do what they think will not affect the troop morale and give a fitting reply.
 
indians wait for their dying soldiers to say the last word.

then indians cut his head for propaganda blitz.

then they thrown dead soldiers body in the forest.

Then india tells lie and fabricated story to dead soldier family.

Indian soldiers should ask themselves is this is what they get for serving?
 
Will it matter ? Seriously, will you accept the facts ? Even if we tell, you will say IA is lying.

See the entire threads, you all are saying IA is lying. Why will you believe this ?

It matters alot.

The account given by Indians is that an Indian patrol (which by all SOPs should not be composed of atleast double the figure) came heared the dying soldier and left the area with injured Indian soldiers.

Now calculate carefully,

1. the Indian patroling team NOT having any communication system to tell the position to the backup teams/seniors?other posts? local HQ?

2. The Indian soldiers were injured in large number? if not then the patroling team took how many injured that they have to left the dead behind only to come back again and find him beheaded?

3. during their going back and coming again the area was left unmanned? if so why PA did not ambush them ? why they did not took the body of the dead indian and throw it in a gorge?
 
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