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At LoC, we’re like goalkeepers in penalty shootouts, say jawans
RAJOURI: Rage, shame and betrayal make for a combustible mix and in Rajouri, just 10 km from LoC, the Indian Army is oscillating between the three. Of these three, rage is the most visible on the faces of soldiers ambling through the crowded streets of this border town. The desecration of their comrades' body has cut deep.
This insult is something that every man in uniform takes as a personal blow. The Army is working overtime to calm down troops thirsting for revenge. "We shall strike but at a time and place of our choosing. Now is not the time," said an angry Capt Martand Singh.
Major Rajdeep Chauhan vented his frustration: "There's constant pressure of being a goalkeeper in a penalty shoot-out. They keep coming at us, sometimes as regulars in Kargil and at others as fidayeen. But our job seems to be to sit tight and follow the rules."
However, cowardly as the mutilations were, the Army is also internally feeling humiliated by how easily the Pakistani forces could come in, kill their men, and exit without loss. In military terms, it's a slap in the face. This shame is perhaps the reason why for days now the Army has been suggesting how this attack was carried out by some specially trained forces of the Pakistani army.
As journalists made a beeline for this dusty town, few among the officers in command missed the fact that it was a defeat and not a victory that got the Army attention from the country. Even as the Army licked its wounded pride, something happened on Thursday that only increased their fury. Two articles appeared in national journals, which appeared to pin the blame for the entire chain of events on the Army itself.
The articles by two Delhi-based journalists known for their access to intelligence agencies seemed to suggest that it was the Indian Army that had precipitated the Pakistani attack because of its disregard for rules that govern the LoC ceasefire.
What has particularly shocked the men in olive is the naming of a junior commander in Uri. Brig GS Rawat has been painted as a "latter day out-of-control Dirty Harry". One of the stories says he is an officer known to be aggressive. It has reference to his past record. "What does that mean? That brigade commander on the LoC should be docile? To name a brigade commander is bizarre; it makes it seem as if he is fighting his private war," said Major AS Tomar, who just finished tenure on the LoC.
Many like Maj Tomar see a subtle government hand in this, designed almost to absolve the government in Delhi or Srinagar of any responsibility for the latest setback to their Pakistan policy. This narrative nudges towards the Uri incident as a latter day mini Kargil that justifiably provoked a Pakistani retaliation.
As you look up from the main bazaar in Rajouri, to the east loom the Pir Panjal range. For many Army men their entire deployments are based on this single task of ensuring that no militant is able to cross them to enter the Valley. And here is what many do not realize.
The Army men deployed here have two tactically different tasks. One is to man the LoC to hold the Indian territory, and the other to detect and kill small groups of militants who infiltrate. So each unit deployed has two very different modes and threats to tackle.
While the debate in Delhi and Islamabad is over ceasefire violations, which generally means firing by small arms, both countries are silent on whether Lashkar terrorists crossing over from *** into India constitutes ceasefire violation. "A raid on a Pakistani post by an Indian Army team is aggression befitting retaliation in kind. But an encounter in which Lashkar terrorists, all Pakistan nationals, kill two Indian soldiers isn't a ceasefire violation?" asked an outraged Capt Rajan Singh.
At LoC, we’re like goalkeepers in penalty shootouts, say jawans - The Times of India
RAJOURI: Rage, shame and betrayal make for a combustible mix and in Rajouri, just 10 km from LoC, the Indian Army is oscillating between the three. Of these three, rage is the most visible on the faces of soldiers ambling through the crowded streets of this border town. The desecration of their comrades' body has cut deep.
This insult is something that every man in uniform takes as a personal blow. The Army is working overtime to calm down troops thirsting for revenge. "We shall strike but at a time and place of our choosing. Now is not the time," said an angry Capt Martand Singh.
Major Rajdeep Chauhan vented his frustration: "There's constant pressure of being a goalkeeper in a penalty shoot-out. They keep coming at us, sometimes as regulars in Kargil and at others as fidayeen. But our job seems to be to sit tight and follow the rules."
However, cowardly as the mutilations were, the Army is also internally feeling humiliated by how easily the Pakistani forces could come in, kill their men, and exit without loss. In military terms, it's a slap in the face. This shame is perhaps the reason why for days now the Army has been suggesting how this attack was carried out by some specially trained forces of the Pakistani army.
As journalists made a beeline for this dusty town, few among the officers in command missed the fact that it was a defeat and not a victory that got the Army attention from the country. Even as the Army licked its wounded pride, something happened on Thursday that only increased their fury. Two articles appeared in national journals, which appeared to pin the blame for the entire chain of events on the Army itself.
The articles by two Delhi-based journalists known for their access to intelligence agencies seemed to suggest that it was the Indian Army that had precipitated the Pakistani attack because of its disregard for rules that govern the LoC ceasefire.
What has particularly shocked the men in olive is the naming of a junior commander in Uri. Brig GS Rawat has been painted as a "latter day out-of-control Dirty Harry". One of the stories says he is an officer known to be aggressive. It has reference to his past record. "What does that mean? That brigade commander on the LoC should be docile? To name a brigade commander is bizarre; it makes it seem as if he is fighting his private war," said Major AS Tomar, who just finished tenure on the LoC.
Many like Maj Tomar see a subtle government hand in this, designed almost to absolve the government in Delhi or Srinagar of any responsibility for the latest setback to their Pakistan policy. This narrative nudges towards the Uri incident as a latter day mini Kargil that justifiably provoked a Pakistani retaliation.
As you look up from the main bazaar in Rajouri, to the east loom the Pir Panjal range. For many Army men their entire deployments are based on this single task of ensuring that no militant is able to cross them to enter the Valley. And here is what many do not realize.
The Army men deployed here have two tactically different tasks. One is to man the LoC to hold the Indian territory, and the other to detect and kill small groups of militants who infiltrate. So each unit deployed has two very different modes and threats to tackle.
While the debate in Delhi and Islamabad is over ceasefire violations, which generally means firing by small arms, both countries are silent on whether Lashkar terrorists crossing over from *** into India constitutes ceasefire violation. "A raid on a Pakistani post by an Indian Army team is aggression befitting retaliation in kind. But an encounter in which Lashkar terrorists, all Pakistan nationals, kill two Indian soldiers isn't a ceasefire violation?" asked an outraged Capt Rajan Singh.
At LoC, we’re like goalkeepers in penalty shootouts, say jawans - The Times of India
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Paris / New Delhi: India has not got any substantial response from Pakistan yet on the treatment meted out to the bodies of the two jawans who were killed by Pakistani troops near the Line of Control in Kashmir, Foreign Minister Salman Khurshid has told NDTV. Of the two jawans who were killed on Tuesday, one was decapitated. The minister emphasised that this was "unacceptable and must be explained" but added that "we are not going to be pressurised by wild calls for revenge and reaction."
Won't be pressurised by wild calls for revenge: Salman Khurshid on India-Pak stand-off | NDTV.com
Looks like the politicians at the center has prepared to abandon the army and look for easy way out. In a month these idiots will get ready to sing Aman ki Tamasha
Won't be pressurised by wild calls for revenge: Salman Khurshid on India-Pak stand-off | NDTV.com
Looks like the politicians at the center has prepared to abandon the army and look for easy way out. In a month these idiots will get ready to sing Aman ki Tamasha
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The Terrorist Indian Army is comprised of criminals, rapists and murderers!
http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...2-tortured-prisoner-s-body-arrives-india.html
india loves to torture pakistanis be it maqbool hussain or these innocent cricket fans or our soldiers!
http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...2-tortured-prisoner-s-body-arrives-india.html
india loves to torture pakistanis be it maqbool hussain or these innocent cricket fans or our soldiers!
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It's 2 on the Pakistani side now:
Another soldier killed by Indian forces: Pakistan Army | Pakistan | DAWN.COM
It's 2 on the Pakistani side now:
http://dawn.com/2013/01/10/another-pakistani-soldier-killed-by-indian-forces-army/
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Martyr's family on hunger strike, wants govt to bring back severed head
LUCKNOW: Family members of Lance Naik Hemraj Singh, who was killed and beheaded by Pakistani troops last Tuesday, along with the villagers of Sher Nagar in Mathura, went on a hunger strike on Saturday to protest the neglect, apathy and inaction of the state and central governments.
The family and the villagers want central government to give a befitting reply to Pakistan and bring back the head of the martyr.
They also want chief minister Akhilesh Yadav to visit the village and pay tribute to the martyr, instead of announcing compensation and offering lip service.
The politicians, they said, should learn to honour those who make supreme sacrifice for the country. Senior officers of the Mathura district administration have reached the spot to pacify the villagers.
According to a PTI report, the family members and the villagers have called off their fast after getting assurance on their demands from the Uttar Pradesh government.
Lance Naik Hemraj was killed along with Lance Naik Sudhakar Singh, who belonged to Sidhi in Madhya Pradesh.
While Madhya Pradesh chief minister Shivraj Singh Chauhan was present in the funeral of the martyr, his counterpart Akhilesh Yadav in Uttar Pradesh neither attended the funeral, not sent any representative of the state cabinet, leading to widespread criticism.
Though Yadav later announced Rs 20 lakh compensation for the family of the martyr, villagers and family members are angry over the initial neglect and apathy of the state administration.
Hemraj is survived by wife Dharmvati (28), two daughters Nirmal (7) and Shivam (3), son Prince (5), and mother Meena Devi. He joined Rajputana Rifles of the Army in 2001.
Angry villagers said that the central government should try and get Hemraj's head to maintain the dignity of his body.
Village head Dharam Veer demanded a befitting reply to Pakistan for 'cowardly act'. He said that villagers are proud of the supreme sacrifice made by the 32-year-old brave soldier and want that he should be awarded with Ashok Chakra for serving the nation.
Martyr's family on hunger strike, wants govt to bring back severed head - The Times of India
LUCKNOW: Family members of Lance Naik Hemraj Singh, who was killed and beheaded by Pakistani troops last Tuesday, along with the villagers of Sher Nagar in Mathura, went on a hunger strike on Saturday to protest the neglect, apathy and inaction of the state and central governments.
The family and the villagers want central government to give a befitting reply to Pakistan and bring back the head of the martyr.
They also want chief minister Akhilesh Yadav to visit the village and pay tribute to the martyr, instead of announcing compensation and offering lip service.
The politicians, they said, should learn to honour those who make supreme sacrifice for the country. Senior officers of the Mathura district administration have reached the spot to pacify the villagers.
According to a PTI report, the family members and the villagers have called off their fast after getting assurance on their demands from the Uttar Pradesh government.
Lance Naik Hemraj was killed along with Lance Naik Sudhakar Singh, who belonged to Sidhi in Madhya Pradesh.
While Madhya Pradesh chief minister Shivraj Singh Chauhan was present in the funeral of the martyr, his counterpart Akhilesh Yadav in Uttar Pradesh neither attended the funeral, not sent any representative of the state cabinet, leading to widespread criticism.
Though Yadav later announced Rs 20 lakh compensation for the family of the martyr, villagers and family members are angry over the initial neglect and apathy of the state administration.
Hemraj is survived by wife Dharmvati (28), two daughters Nirmal (7) and Shivam (3), son Prince (5), and mother Meena Devi. He joined Rajputana Rifles of the Army in 2001.
Angry villagers said that the central government should try and get Hemraj's head to maintain the dignity of his body.
Village head Dharam Veer demanded a befitting reply to Pakistan for 'cowardly act'. He said that villagers are proud of the supreme sacrifice made by the 32-year-old brave soldier and want that he should be awarded with Ashok Chakra for serving the nation.
Martyr's family on hunger strike, wants govt to bring back severed head - The Times of India
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