Turks Love for Pakistanis

[Norphisor]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, have you seen your face? dont mess up turkey with your bad habits lol just jking

Who the puck are you?Do you know me?And my bad habits?

 

[Jf Thunder]

Who the puck are you?Do you know me?And my bad habits?

do you honestly want me to answer that?

 

[xyxmt]

I've noticed some things since I came on this forum.
You guys are passionate people and how should I say, you take things to heart really fast.
For example one day you're praising Iran and calling it a "brotherly" country and the next day you're badmouthing Iran because some douche bag MP said something bad about pakistan!
There is no true friendship in the world of politics, it's the mindset of the average joe in the street that matters and trust me, the average Turk doesn't give a crap about he average Pakistani.

My cousin got scolorship to Italy and he and his 2 friend who found a rental apartment from a Turkish guy, when the guy found out they were Pakistani he refused to take rent from them

 

[Jf Thunder]

My cousin got scolorship to Italy and he and his 2 friend who found a rental apartment from a Turkish guy, when the guy found out they were Pakistani he refused to take rent from them

this just comes to show that there is a beautiful bond of brotherhood or sisterhood between Turkish and Pakistani people, it cannot be explained, it is in the hearts

 

[airmarshal]

Truly inspiring and heart warming thread. May this bond between our two countries get more strength and depth. Ameen

 

[Jf Thunder]

Truly inspiring and heart warming thread. May this bond between our two countries get more strength and depth. Ameen

Ameen

 

[qaisar]

@Mahmut Babur Saka

Welcome to the forum bro. Indeed there was a lot of respect for Turks in Pakistan even before independence and WWI was a really testing time for us. Still despite fighting for the British, there are many examples of soldiers hailing from todays Pakistan simply refusing to fight or being forced to the front under threat of court martial. For example the 15th Lancers of the "British Indian" army (today part of the Baloch Regiment of Pakistan Army) which was made up entirely of ethnic groups that today live in Pakistan and was 100% Muslim, rebelled in Basra when being told to march towards the front to fight the Turks. Some soldiers were then court martialled and shot at the spot whilst the rest were transferred to Burma as prisoners. Similarly the 5th Light Infantry (which was again made up of Muslim Punjabis and Pashtuns) rebelled in Singapore in 1915, when a rumour spread that they were being transferred to the Middle Eastern front to fight the Turks. Again many were court martialled and shot at the spot (refer to the picture below) or made prisoners).
And yes I was in Istanbul last year and experienced in person the respect Turks have for Pakistan. Theres not many countries in the world today where if you say you are from Pakistan, in return you get a big smile and a Mashallah! Thats why Turkey has a special place for Pakistanis.

@Mahmut Babur Saka

 

[Ra'ad]

The wow that cannot be broken...
The bond that cannot be severed...

(the right flag represents turk)

 

[Jf Thunder]

The wow that cannot be broken...
The bond that cannot be severed...

(the right flag represents turk)

someone suggest the mods to make a Turk flag smiley too

 

[Slav Defence]

@Neptune @AlpErTunga...!!!!!
I will always support you because you are Turkish

[Following our ambassadors's legacy]

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Dont want to sound like a bragging fool.... but my elders also fought for Khilafat... people sent everything they got or could afford etc.... Doctors,Soldiers... etc volunteered to go to Turkiye........Our soldiers even fought for them... others refused and rebelled against the british...

Same goes for our soldiers posted on the Indonesian front etc... They rebelled and joined the Indonesian freedom fighters against the british.... few out of the 600 came back home ... rest were martyred...

Turkiye.. even Iran (despite the small problems).. are our brothers.. no doubt abt tht..

 

[Jf Thunder]

Dont want to sound like a bragging fool.... but my elders also fought for Khilafat... people sent everything they got or could afford etc.... Doctors,Soldiers... etc volunteered to go to Turkiye........Our soldiers even fought for them... others refused and rebelled against the british...

Same goes for our soldiers posted in Indonesian front... They rebelled and joined the Indonesian freedom fighters against the british.... only a few (counted on fingers) out of the 2000 came back home ... rest were martyred...

Turkiye.. even Iran (despite the small problems).. are our brothers.. no doubt abt tht..

u think none of the Indonesians came home, i read somewhere that they settled there.

here is an extract from Wikipedia
During the Indonesian National Revolution, Muhammad Ali Jinnah encouraged Muslim soldiers serving in British Indian army to join hands with Indonesians against their fight against the Dutch Empire colonisation of Indonesia. As a result 600-Muslim soldiers of the British Indian Army deserted the colonial forces putting their lot at stake, allied with Indonesians.[4] Out of these 600 soldiers, 500 of them died in war; while the remaining returned to Pakistan or continued to live in Indonesia. As a recognition of Muslim soldiers from Pakistan, during Indonesia Golden Jubilee celebration on August 17, 1995, Indonesia grants Independence War Awards to the living ex Pakistan soldiers and awarded the highest honor Adipura to the Founding Father of Pakistan Mohammad All Jinnah and the Government of Pakistan.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

u think none of the Indonesians came home, i read somewhere that they settled there.

here is an extract from Wikipedia
During the Indonesian National Revolution, Muhammad Ali Jinnah encouraged Muslim soldiers serving in British Indian army to join hands with Indonesians against their fight against the Dutch Empire colonisation of Indonesia. As a result 600-Muslim soldiers of the British Indian Army deserted the colonial forces putting their lot at stake, allied with Indonesians.[4] Out of these 600 soldiers, 500 of them died in war; while the remaining returned to Pakistan or continued to live in Indonesia. As a recognition of Muslim soldiers from Pakistan, during Indonesia Golden Jubilee celebration on August 17, 1995, Indonesia grants Independence War Awards to the living ex Pakistan soldiers and awarded the highest honor Adipura to the Founding Father of Pakistan Mohammad All Jinnah and the Government of Pakistan.

Here is an article:


Pakistani Soldiers who never came home..


The 136th birth anniversary of Quaid-i-Azan Muhammad Ali Jinnah, Father of the nation, was observed on December 25 with great fervour and renewal of the pledge to follow in his footsteps. One wonders whether on this day any of the Pakistani leaders today had taken the vow to serve the people and the country the Quaid has given us. The media does its best to recall the life, struggle and achievements of the man who lived, worked hard and left behind Pakistan, urging the people to stand united as one nation. “We want freedom and liberty.” These five words in his statement to the ‘Manchester Guardian’ meant that the Quaid wanted freedom and independence not of the subcontinent only but also of other countries of Asia and Africa from the colonial powers.
He backed Indonesia in its fight for freedom. That’s why Indonesians and Pakistanis will never forget August 17 and 14 as their national days. It was on August 17, 1945, that following the Japanese surrender, Indonesians of the first rank Ahmed Soekarno and Dr Hatta proclaimed independence on behalf of their people. Two years later, on August 14, 1947, the Muslims of the subcontinent achieved their dream of independence under the Jinnah’s dynamic leadership.
The leading freedom fighters of Indonesia and Pakistan cherished the same ideals –liberty, equality and fraternity. Soekarno stressed national unity covering racial, religious and cultural variations; Jinnah advocated unity, first between Muslims and Hindus and then among Musalmans. One of the clear examples of the unity of thought, speech and action and the common heritage in terms of culture and faith is the similarity of the feelings of Pakistani and Indonesian leaders. Soekarno said “…and we’re one, our motto is Bhineka Tunggal Ika (Unity in Diversity).” Jinnah, who had given the call for unity on March 23, 1940, extended staunch support to the Indonesian cause of freedom and its fight for independence, sovereignty and recognition by the world.
A notable aspect of the Quaid’s advocacy for freedom was his clarion call in 1945 to back the Indonesian effort for Independence. It was responded whole-heartedly by 600 Muslim soldiers who deserted the colonial forces. In early 1947, when the military tribunal of the colonialists hearing the case at Singapore pronounced these soldiers as “traitors” and awarded them death sentence, Jinnah raised his voice in condemnation of the colonial atrocities and inhuman decisions. In the last days of August he ordered detention of Dutch planes at Karachi airport because they were carrying weapons to Jakarta to reinforce Dutch aggression against the Indonesian Republic under the so-called “Police Action” of July 21, 1947. The Quaid’s action emboldened the Indonesian freedom fighters and the subcontinent’s Muslim soldiers.
The subcontinent’s Muslim soldiers, in the battle during the infamous “Police Action”, joined the first battle by Indonesia, fought on all fronts so valiantly that the astounded enemy was defeated at Bandung, Medan, Kota Raja and Bukittingg with heavy casualties. A large number of these soldiers lost their legs while facing heavy bombardment of the Dutch army. The Dutch forces, in the hand-to-hand fight, could not bear the brunt of the gunnery of the soldiers. Thus, unceasingly, the war continued for four years. On December 19, 1948, the Dutch colonialists launched the last and most forceful aggression against the Republic of Indonesia, which they called the “Military Action.” That was called ‘Perang Kedua’ (the second battle). In this battle also, Pakistani soldiers helped the Indonesian forces face the enemy with unprecedented courage. It was in this battle that the number of Pakistani soldiers shrank to only a few dozen after suffering a heavy loss of life. Many who survived belonged to Jhelum, Gojar Khan and Rawalpindi – and one Mohammad Sadiq was awarded a certificate by (President) Soekarno during his visit to Karachi.One could safely say that the link between the emerging states of Pakistan and Indonesia had been established by the efforts of the founders of the two republics during their struggle for freedom. The role of Pakistani soldiers as they fought alongside their Indonesian brothers against the colonial forces was exemplary and paved the way for the development of friendly political and socio-economic relations between the two countries. Our soldiers of the present generation, with their minds set on the Quaid’s mission of preserving the integrity of the state and its economy, are fighting militant extremists and terrorists who want to cause severe harm to Pakistan, to its economy, to its defence; in fact in every respect.

 

[xenon54 out]

For example the 15th Lancers of the "British Indian" army (today part of the Baloch Regiment of Pakistan Army) which was made up entirely of ethnic groups that today live in Pakistan and was 100% Muslim, rebelled in Basra when being told to march towards the front to fight the Turks.

And other muslims who were actually a part of the Ottoman Empire got buddies with brits and killed our soldiers.

We will never forget Pakistani loyalty, even though you guys had no direct relation to us, you stood with us.
We Turks never forget two things, one is loyalty and the other is betrayal, we know whom we can trust in this world.

 

[Mahmut Babur Saka]

@Mahmut Babur Saka

Welcome to the forum bro. Indeed there was a lot of respect for Turks in Pakistan even before independence and WWI was a really testing time for us. Still despite fighting for the British, there are many examples of soldiers hailing from todays Pakistan simply refusing to fight or being forced to the front under threat of court martial. For example the 15th Lancers of the "British Indian" army (today part of the Baloch Regiment of Pakistan Army) which was made up entirely of ethnic groups that today live in Pakistan and was 100% Muslim, rebelled in Basra when being told to march towards the front to fight the Turks. Some soldiers were then court martialled and shot at the spot whilst the rest were transferred to Burma as prisoners. Similarly the 5th Light Infantry (which was again made up of Muslim Punjabis and Pashtuns) rebelled in Singapore in 1915, when a rumour spread that they were being transferred to the Middle Eastern front to fight the Turks. Again many were court martialled and shot at the spot (refer to the picture below) or made prisoners).
And yes I was in Istanbul last year and experienced in person the respect Turks have for Pakistan. Theres not many countries in the world today where if you say you are from Pakistan, in return you get a big smile and a Mashallah! Thats why Turkey has a special place for Pakistanis.

Thx for the sharing..
Thats just what i wanted to tell,
I will make probarly many ppl very very angry now but its a fact not a lie..
When muslims in India who never met us ppl in a decent way, who know us only from stories have payed with their blood for our case.. They gived his own life for not taking a Turk's life.

While Muslims from balkan (skïptar(albanians), bosniaks, bulgars and some muslim gypsys) who were considered as our own ppl fought against us with the Greeks, Serbs and Russians on their side anno 2013 check the foreign relations between those countries now they were massacerd by them just 20 years aggo and Turkey was the first country who supported them and still does...

The Arabs who were real citizens of the Ottoman Empire stabed us many times in the back and especially the Serif of Mekka who striked with his cavalry from the back at Jerusalem. He killed thousands of young soldiers who were max 14-15 years old (lot of Turkish folkmusic are made for the memory of them) "Lawrence of Arabia" they even made a film with dozens of oscars were they are promoting their betrail. Now look who's supporting the Arabs again without any behalf of his own its even the opposite were getting many critics from the US and EU for supporting them against Israil and Imperialistic powers.

And at least Iran.. When the Allied forces attacked us Our biggest rival whos been a very respected foe and friend "the Persians" saw their oppurtunity to expand and supported the Allied forces and tried to pick his share in the Caucacus and middle asia.. And we saw a few years ago that when it comes to official acting only Brazil and Turkey supported you in the UN.

And you can read just a bit ahead what Pakistanis did ppl who dont know us but ready to die for us..
THATS why we have a special relation that will endure till the end...

Ps Chechens, some Arabic tribes, Libians, Soedanees and the people of Yemen did support us too but they had their own big problems and arent even capabale of defending them self against the biggest forces of that time.


We still love all Muslims i swear. Of course their are groups who spreads propagandas about your ppl and dont like u, but in generally the Turks from Turkey wants a pact of Islamic nations like the EU or even a step further like USA 1 big country with dozens of small countries with their own goverments and 1 leader elected by all of those countries.. what would it be beautifull..

And other muslims who were actually a part of the Ottoman Empire got buddies with brits and killed our soldiers.

We will never forget Pakistani loyality, even though you guys had no direct relation to us, you stood with us.
We Turks never forget two things, one is loyalty and the other is betrayal, we know whom we can trust in this world.

Nice one just wrote about that movie...