Turks down 'Russian plane violating their airspace'

[Hurshid Celebi]

the russian war machine will annihilate turkey. NATO forces wont be able to save you.

Go in your Ashram aq

Sounds rubbish because Mig29 can out-speed the F16 easily..

MIG-29 is scrap, our Pakistan brothers shot down many MI and SU along Afghan boarder and lost only one F-16 with friendly accidentally fire

Yup , that's what they don't understand , Russia doesn't defend Syria , they just defend their interest their , their base .. but Russians more stupids than americans.

Greetings to our Albanian friends

 

[Neptune]

Sounds rubbish because Mig29 can out-speed the F16 easily..

Can ot out-speed and AIM-120C7 locked on by E-7T Peace Eagle?

 

[$@rJen]

the russian war machine will annihilate turkey. NATO forces wont be able to save you.

Why??? because Turks shot down their jet??? Its stupid of Russians to send their jet into turkish air and not to expect a blow... its well within the rights of turkey and russians can't do shit about it

 

[Providence]

Can ot out-speed and AIM-120C7 locked on by E-7T Peace Eagle?

I am surprised you are even asking this question !

On-topic: Turkey will never down a Russian Fighter with a SAM all of a sudden. Even if things escalate for the worse, there are steps involved. This news is a joke.

 

[mike2000 is back]

After seeing the Russian performance against ISIS and American performance against ISIS lol. I doubt your analysis totally.

Plus there are several exotic weapons that Russian federation has.



Check the list of ottoman/turko-russian wars. The trend is clear to me.

Lol its useless arguing with someone who believes Russia stands any chance in case of an conventional expeditionary war with NATO(U.S&E.U combined.+ Turkey). No point going into details. Its a huge joke.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Can ot out-speed and AIM-120C7 locked on by E-7T Peace Eagle?

@Neptune Brother , I am confused ; what do you mean ?
Do you want so say that yesterday night we shot an own E-7T with friendly fire and had combat with Russian fighters ?

I don't understand ?

 

[Providence]

Why??? because Turks shot down their jet??? Its stupid of Russians to send their jet into turkish air and not to expect a blow... its well within the rights of turkey and russians can't do shit about it

Depends how inside was it. If it is 2-5KMs then expect a russian response. Remember, there are no milestones in the air. A high speeding jet can easily overshoot a boundary especially when boundaries are complex.

I would have said the same thing if Turkish F16s would have violated somebody else's boundary.

I wish people on both sides calm down a little.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Lol its useless arguing with someone who believes Russia stands any chance in case of an conventional expeditionary war with NATO(U.S&E.U combined.+ Turkey). No point going into details. Its a huge joke.

@mike2000 is back

This threat is curious, what's going on ? Total Censoring in Türkiye and no news in Media in East and West !

I know that you are always update, can you give some hints as you did always ?

 

[TechnoFox]

@Neptune Brother , I am confused ; what do you mean ?
Do you want so say that yesterday night we shot an own E-7T with friendly fire and had combat with Russian fighters ?

I don't understand ?

No, he means an E-7T was used to vector a missile towards a hostile target. AWACS can act as a targeting system in place of the launching aircraft if needed, this is often done for long-range engagements.

The E-7T locked onto the hostile target for the launching aircraft and maintained said lock until impact.

In the US we call this Cooperative Engagement Capability, the capability for a launching platform to leverage the sensors of friendly assets to vector munitions without using their own sensors, and its commonly noted with the E-2D acting as a vector for SM-2 and SM-6 at ultra-long ranges and even for over-land engagements where shipborne sensors would be nearly blind

*I can't post links, so a diagram will suffice in their place.

Can ot out-speed and AIM-120C7 locked on by E-7T Peace Eagle?

Depends on the range of the engagement. If it's BVR, and a E-7T is acting as a vector, it's possible the target could identify a missile launch and outrun the missile. This happened a few times in Iraq where MiG-25s simply outran missiles targeting them due to the engagement range.

Within the No Escape Envelope, there is no chance, but beyond that if a launch is detected at sufficient range a missile can be outrun or evaded.

 

[Kaniska]

The Mughal Emperors were turkic originally

Do not be in your imaginary land...Turkey will never dare to do anything to Russians...Without NATO support, Turkey is nothing...And on top of that West is not in a situation to fight with direct fight with Russia and the public opinion is favored with Russians as they are elmininating these terrorists from Syria....So why are you seems to be upset? Do not you want ISIS to be eliminated?? Or you would like to treat them as good taliban like you have messed up in Afganistan....

 

[mike2000 is back]

I have no doubt about it. If Russia goes for an all out attack on Turkey how long do you think they can withstand it? They will simply bomb them into oblivion.

Now, as far the involvement of NATO is considered, the whole scenario is different then and simply too complex.

Bomb who into oblivion? You do know that Turkey will be fighting on home soil right? lol

For the last part you are right, Turkey being part of NATO complicates matters. However, i am sure Russian leaders aren't foolish. They obviously know they cant take on NATO in any conventional war in the region.
So the main point here is : How far will NATO get involved in case of any conflict involving Turkey and Russia. That will be the main point here.

Plus all these is just PDF fan boys hypothetical talks. lol There will be no full scale war between Turkey and Russia, Much less NATO and Russia. Little issues/conflicts/diplomatic Sabre-rattling but no war per se. So we should all chill. I know that some fanboys on here really wish to see a war between these parties, so they can have some fun seeing how big powers fighting an all out war looks like in the modern world.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Bomb who into oblivion? You do know that Turkey will be fighting on home soil right? lol

For the last part you are right, Turkey being part of NATO complicates matters. However, i am sure Russian leaders aren't foolish. They obviously know they cant take on NATO in any conventional war in the region.
So the main point here is : How far will NATO get involved in case of any conflict involving Turkey and Russia. That will be the main point here.

Plus all these is just PDF fan boys hypothetical talks. lol There will be no full scale war between Turkey and Russia, Much less NATO and Russia. Little issues/conflicts/diplomatic Sabre-rattling but no war per se. So we should all chill. I know that some fanboys on here really wish to see a war between these parties, so they can have some fun seeing how big powers fighting an all out war looks like in the modern world.

@mike2000 is back

Congratulations WW3 is made with other means economic, destabilization and terror

 

[Mani2020]

Reports are circulating that a Russian mig29 has been shot down by Turkish f16s

SHOT OUT OF THE SKY– Turks down 'Russian plane violating their airspace'
A RUSSIAN jet has been shot down by Turkish forces after it flew into the country's airspace, according to as yet unconfirmed reports circulating on social media.


By Scott Campbell / Published 10th October 2015

ALAMY FILE PICTURE

FIGHTER: A Mig-29 fet similar to those used by Russia
According to reports, eyewitnesses saw a large explosion in Huraytan, northern Syria, while three fighter jets were hovering above.

One journalist tweeted that three Turkish planes were responding to "mysterious" lock-ons from Mig-29 jets, which are used by Putin's forces.

Daily Star Online has contacted the Turkish government and the Russian military but neither could be reached for comment.

 

[illusion8]

What's so funny? Your own miserable "country" was dominated by my ancestors for centuries

Try doing that now..and bring your whole muslim umma along if you dare mulla.

OT: false news most likely.

Bomb who into oblivion? You do know that Turkey will be fighting on home soil right? lol

For the last part you are right, Turkey being part of NATO complicates matters. However, i am sure Russian leaders aren't foolish. They obviously know they cant take on NATO in any conventional war in the region.
So the main point here is : How far will NATO get involved in case of any conflict involving Turkey and Russia. That will be the main point here.

Plus all these is just PDF fan boys hypothetical talks. lol There will be no full scale war between Turkey and Russia, Much less NATO and Russia. Little issues/conflicts/diplomatic Sabre-rattling but no war per se. So we should all chill. I know that some fanboys on here really wish to see a war between these parties, so they can have some fun seeing how big powers fighting an all out war looks like in the modern world.

The right question would be...how far would NATO go to save turkey?

Atm the ruskies are blowing turkey's puppets - isis sky high.

 

[MadDog]

A Syrian jet (Russian Made).. Maybe Turkey would take it down.

They wouldn't be stupid enough to take down a Russian one though. Russia could easily finish Turkey..

The reports are probably false though.

Turkey is a NATO member, its not that easy, first learn about international relations, then come back to post here !!!