Turkish Small Arms Industry | Updates and Discussions

[elszADaQ]

A shorter barrel means a smaller calibre?

Nope, same caliber different purpose

 

[Hakan]

MPT-76 variants

1st one we can call MPT 76 Carbine

2Nd one just MPT 76

3rd one MPT 76 DMR

I just made that up nothing official.

 

[cabatli_53]

Different than standart MPT-76, I know Carbine version but not sure about Longer one.

 

[cabatli_53]

It is OK now.

MPT will have four variants listed as following;

-Short barrel (12 inch)
-Standarts long barrel variant (16 inch)
-Long barrel sharp shooter (20 inch)
-Heavy barrel, infantry fire support variant...

 

[elszADaQ]

It is OK now.

-Long barrel sharp shooter (20 inch)

Can you make a quick comparison between the long barrel MPT-76 & JNG-90?

 

[cabatli_53]

Can you make a quick comparison between the long barrel MPT-76 & JNG-90?

Barrel length of JNG-90 is 26 inch...

 

[Hakan]

It is OK now.

MPT will have four variants listed as following;

-Short barrel (12 inch)
-Standarts long barrel variant (16 inch)
-Long barrel sharp shooter (20 inch)
-Heavy barrel, infantry fire support variant...

The U.S marine core switched over to an hk 416 modified as a squad automatic weapon from the m249 saw.

IAR
In 1999, a universal need statement was issued for an Infantry Automatic Rifle (IAR). Around 2000, the 1st Marine Division’s 2nd Battalion, 7th Marines Regiment conducted initial limited IAR trials which showed the desire for a light automatic rifle. Experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan continued requests for formal recommendations. The universal need statement spent six years going through the procurement process when it was given official program status in early 2005 and capabilities were drawn up.[5]

The Infantry Automatic Rifle program began on 14 July 2005, when the Marine Corps sought information from manufacturers. Objectives sought by the weapon included: portability and maneuverability; reduction of visual identification of an automatic weapon to the enemy; strengthen the gunner's participation in counter-insurgency situations; and to maintain a high volume of fire. An initial requirement for a 100-round capacity magazine at minimum was dropped in favor of the 30-round STANAG magazine because at the start of testing, available 100-round magazines were unreliable. It had to be 5.56×45mm caliber with non-linked ammunition to be achieve commonality with service rifles.[6][5]

In 2006, contracts were issued for sample weapons to Fabrique Nationale d'Herstal (providing an IAR variant of the FN SCAR), Heckler & Koch (with a variant of theHK416), and Colt Defense, which provided two competing designs. Companies that attempted to compete but were not accepted as finalists for testing include Land Warfare Resources Corporation, which competed with the M6A4 IAR,[7][8] Patriot Ordnance Factory,[3] and General Dynamics Armament and Technical Products with theCIS Ultimax 100 MK5 (marketed as the GDATP IAR).[9]

In December 2009, the Heckler & Koch model beat out the other three finalists, and entered the final five months of testing.[10][11] It was designated as the M27 in the summer of 2010,[12] coincidentally sharing a designation with the M27 link it would not use, but instead it was named after 2nd Battalion, 7th Marines, who were testing with automatic rifles since before September 11, 2001.[13]

An M27 IAR displayed at the NDIAJoint Armaments Conference in May 2010.
While Marine Corps Systems Command was optimistic about operational testing, former Commandant of the Marine Corps General James T. Conway remained skeptical that the reduced firepower at the fireteam-level was a viable option.[14] He felt that while less accurate, the M249 was a belt-fed LMG, which an automatic rifle was unlikely to provide fire superiority over. A magazine-fed rifle would have to reload more often and not be able to sustain firing. Squad members that carry additional magazines for the gunner may be in a position unable to supply the IAR during a firefight. Also, the SAW had been battle-proven and the Army was not pursuing the IAR concept.[5]

After the Marine Corps Operational Test and Evaluation Activity supervised a round of testing at MCAGCC Twentynine Palms, Fort McCoy, and Camp Shelby (for dust, cold-weather, and hot-weather conditions, respectively), limited fielding began for 458 IARs to four infantry battalions (one per each Marine Expeditionary Force and one reserve) and one light armored reconnaissance battalion; all of which deployed to Afghanistan in 2011.[15][16]

In May 2011, General James Amos of the U.S. Marine Corps approved the termination of a Limited User Evaluation (LUE), and the replacement of the M249 LMG by the M27. Fielding of the approximately 6,500 M27 units is expected to be completed in the summer of 2013, for a cost of $13 million. M27 gunners will be equipped with around 22 of the 30-round magazines already in use with the M16 and M4 Carbine. Twenty-two magazines will approximate the prescribed individual combat load of a M249 SAW gunner, and although the M27 gunner is not expected to carry all 22 magazines, they are provided to the units so that a determination can be made at the unit level on what the individual combat load should look like. It will undoubtedly vary by unit, based on the evaluations conducted by the four infantry battalion and one light armored reconnaissance battalion that were issued quantities of the M27 for the LUE. Though program officials are aware that switching from the belt-fed M249 will result in a loss of suppressive fire capabilities, Charles Clark III, of the Marine Corps' Combat Development and Integration office cites the substantially increased accuracy of the M27 as a significant factor in replacing the M249.[17]

M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Path-Finder]

Damn I didn't about the other two development in sniper rifles apart from JNG-90. Is the middle one 7.62x51?

 

[cabatli_53]

Bora-12 succesfully hit a baloon from a range of 1236m.

 

[xxxKULxxx]

Bora-12 succesfully hit a baloon from a range of 1236m.

Any news about stolen one ?..

 

[cabatli_53]

Any news about stolen one ?..

Don't care such subjects bro. Just concantrate on developments.

 

[xxxKULxxx]

Don't care such subjects bro. Just concantrate on developments.

If you say so then no problem...

I just thought about reverse engineering possibility... So nevermind...

Damn I didn't about the other two development in sniper rifles apart from JNG-90. Is the middle one 7.62x51?

BTW... Just WOW...

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Well most of the Turkish guns are clones of other guns maybe a few tweeks here and there but nothing serious. Sarsilmaz has some nice pistols though. Also all of the reviews I have seen on youtube about Turkish guns were positive except for that toy shotgun.

We need more innovation.

Thei pistols are quiet popular in Pakistan .. Rugged and affordable... The shot guns are shit though.. No offense...

P.S: the new rifle looks good .. Wish Pak cooperate with Turkey on small arms n we see it service with our forces ... We are stuck with modified G-3 variants,MP-5 variants (they are being phased out) n AK series as our standard (army) weapons .. Although G-3s will be replaced...

 

[Hakan]

 

[xxxKULxxx]

KENİK 55

Anyways...Our police purchased these pistols newly...