Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan loses fans abroad

[TurAr]

Only idiots state the obvious. It is obvious Erdogan is PM of Turkey and only Turkish citizens can keep him in Power.

Show me where I said that his popularity in the Muslim World matters ?

I am only disagreeing with the Title of the thread ( which obviously you did not read ), and expressing my opinion on the title of the thread.

Show me some evidence that there is some grey matter in your skull.

Oh, before labelling the article as "Zionist Propaganda" over its title, how about reading it? And i'm wondering, why are you disagreeing, actually the true question would be: how are you disagreeing with it exactly?

It is amazing how he accuses me with not reading the title while he didn't even read the article, and talking about intellect.

 

[Edevelop]

WTF is going on ? What are you all arguing about ?

Zionists are everywhere but what does that have to do with Erdogan loosing fans. He has been speaking against Israel, shouldn't he be favourable to the muslim world ?

 

[Pakistanisage]

So we've established that Zionist "control" doesn't extend to your mind. Well and good. How about your parents and siblings? If I tell them to jump will they respond, "How high" or give me the finger?

the ZIONIST Propaganda machinery is active throughout the World ever since Second World War. This is something the ZIONIST learnt from their NAZI nemesis. How effective the Propaganda is depends on the intelligence level of the audience. In some cases such Propaganda has been quite effective.

For example you have got the whole World to believe that 6 million Jews were killed by Hitler during Second World War. Now we know those are grossly exaggerated numbers as the real deaths were closer to 200,000.

 

[Serpentine]

WTF is going on ? What are you all arguing about ?

Zionists are everywhere but what does that have to do with Erdogan loosing fans. He has been speaking against Israel, shouldn't he be favourable to the muslim world ?

Not everything is related to Israel.
Many Turks disagree with his Syrian policy,it can affect public opinion negatively.
He did good in economy though,that's my personal opinion.

 

[Solomon2]

WTF is going on ? What are you all arguing about ?

Zionists are everywhere but what does that have to do with Erdogan loosing fans. He has been speaking against Israel, shouldn't he be favourable to the muslim world ?

It's about delegitimization. Pakistanis have been taught that anything Zionist is automatically evil and illegitimate so that empowers people to attach the "Zionist" label on things and people they don't like. Such a populace eventually loses it senses completely and disintegrates into external war or internal suicide. We Jews have seen that many times over the centuries.

To counter that you have to go through the whole process of teaching people why Zionism is to be respected and supported. It is a time-consuming affair but the benefits to the psyche of the citizenry are immense. It's the difference between the murderous hate-driven Germans of Nazi times and the post Cold War Germans of today who achieved supremacy in Europe through their great industry and native skill.

 

[Solomon2]

the ZIONIST Propaganda machinery is active throughout the World ever since Second World War. This is something the ZIONIST learnt from their NAZI nemesis.

The Nazis had newspapers, radio, party organs, concentration camps, and tyrannical laws and practices to further their wicked cause. I've got the internet. The Nazis didn't have my tools and I don't have theirs.

For example you have got the whole World to believe that 6 million Jews were killed by Hitler during Second World War. Now we know those are grossly exaggerated numbers as the real deaths were closer to 200,000.

It's not the truth, sage. And if you're going to propagate lies about the Holocaust there's no reason you won't stoop to do so to further your own position in your own society, is there? Pakistan will continue to go downhill, without Zionists lifting a single finger or dotting even one iota.

 

[Serpentine]

It's about delegitimization. Pakistanis have been taught that anything Zionist is automatically evil and illegitimate so that empowers people to attach the "Zionist" label on things and people they don't like. Such a populace eventually loses it senses completely and disintegrates into external war or internal suicide. We Jews have seen that many times over the centuries.

To counter that you have to go through the whole process of teaching people why Zionism is to be respected and supported. It is a time-consuming affair but the benefits to the psyche of the citizenry are immense. It's the difference between the murderous hate-driven Germans of Nazi times and the post Cold War Germans who of today who achieved supremacy in Europe through their great industry and native skill.

Nazi Germany also had most powerful army and industry in the world.For God's sake,they gave you proper tech that led to establishment of NASA.Wernher von Braun is just one example.
I have always admired Nazis in their advancement in science,they were years ahead of their time.No one can deny that.

 

[Pakistanisage]

The Nazis had newspapers, radio, party organs, concentration camps, and tyrannical laws and practices to further their wicked cause. I've got the internet. The Nazis didn't have my tools and I don't have theirs.

It's not the truth, sage. And if you're going to propagate lies about the Holocaust there's no reason you won't stoop to do so to further your own position in your own society, is there? Pakistan will continue to go downhill, without Zionists lifting a single finger or dotting even one iota.

Pakistan will be fine my friend but you should really worry about Israel.

There are some Jewish intellectuals who are questioning if Israel will still be there in next few years, or at least in its present form.

 

[RayKalm]

WTF is going on ? What are you all arguing about ?

Zionists are everywhere but what does that have to do with Erdogan loosing fans. He has been speaking against Israel, shouldn't he be favourable to the muslim world ?

The more recent events. Charming up to America.

 

[Edevelop]

The more recent events. Charming up to America.

All i can say is, we are all kissing America's feet. The reason is i guess due to economic activity.

 

[Solomon2]

Pakistan will be fine my friend -

Is that all you have to say to the families of victims of terror bombings? To the abused peasants of Sindh? To Malala? To Pakistanis who had to flee their country to the West to escape feuds or criminal gangs?

What kind of "fine" do you have in mind, or are you one of the monsters who tormented them?

 

[Surenas]

I just laugh when I see all those zionism-conspiracy theories here.

Face it, Erdogan + Davutoglu have fvcked it up. Their foreign policy have proved to be a disaster.

 

[Pakistanisage]

Is that all you have to say to the families of victims of terror bombings? To the abused peasants of Sindh? To Malala? To Pakistanis who had to flee their country to the West to escape feuds or criminal gangs?

What kind of "fine" do you have in mind, or are you one of the monsters who tormented them?

Obviously you have not been paying attention to my posts because if you did you would know that I am a Pakistani Patriot ( and an American one too ). The terrorist that kill innocent Pakistanis are my enemies and Pakistan is dealing with them appropriately.

I just laugh when I see all those zionism-conspiracy theories here.

Face it, Erdogan + Davutoglu have fvcked it up. Their foreign policy have proved to be a disaster.

Aren't you an Iranian. How come you now have a Pakistani flag, mysteriously ?

 

[mb444]

Erdogan is just getting some blowback for his stance against the Zionist entity. His foreign fans in the Muslim world agrees with his views and applauds his principled position. The European and the Americans also agree with him the former more so.... They just can't agree in public due to Zionist money which funds their election campaign...

 

[LegionnairE]

Well, good morning suckers

Reformist my arse, he didn't make a single change that doesn't give him more power.

"Talking against Israel" like he had anything else to do. What can a government do without support of it's army.

He will eventually fall, I'm sure of it. What bothers me is that who's supposed to replace him is a retarded midget. POLITICS - Close NATO radar base if you

Look at what the moron says

Like the NATO missile shield had anything to do with Israel.