Exactly, many Pakistanis just love him simply because he uses religion and politics to create populist rhetoric. These are the type of people Erdogon seem get his support base from; Emotional and poorly educated parts of the population (like rural folks), easy people to manipulate. Is Pakistanis focus on industrialization of their and stop giving their hearts to Arabs who constantly fighting others, fighting against themselves etc (the same Gulf Arabs who fund insurgents in your nation), then I doubt there would many terrorist operating in their NW regions as people would be better educated, having better living standard, and secure jobs. Maybe Israel is not the main Nemesis of Pakistan but other Pakistanis would failed to achieve an good living standard for it's people.
No not really ! If Political Islam were the reasons why we liked or disliked a Leader then Khomeni & others from the Muslim world who've used Islam for Political purposes would be high on our list - They are not !
On the other hand some of the more Secular & Nationalistic leaders like Saddam, Shah of Iran, King Faisal, Gaddaffi etc. are admired in Pakistan for their guts & their stances even if we may not agree with all they did to their own people !
Pakistanis like Erdogan for one reason & one reason alone - Governance !
Turkiye before Erdogan was just as bad or as good as the rest of us; in fact the Pakistan of the '60s & the '70s was considerably more economically developed than Turkiye - Why ? Because of Political Islam or Secularism ? No.....because of better Governance that even prompted the South Koreans to come to Pakistan during Ayub Khan's time & copy our Economic Model !
After that the Iranian Revolution, the Arab response to that, the Afghan Jihad & our own ample mistakes monumentally foOked up the country otherwise we would've been pretty much arlight !
We like Erdogan not because he wants to create a Islamic State out of Turkiye or wants to Secularize Turkiye even further - Frankly....we don't care either way because thats for the Turkish People to decide !
We like him because he came....took the Economic Policies of the '90s (Kemal Dervish's I think) & institutionalized them for the betterment of Turkiye & under him the Sick Man of Europe that Turkiye still was in many ways became an emerging economy to rival any present in the EU right now !
He came & ensured that Turkiye which was for a time looking to the EU to let them in was now in a position to show the EU the middle finger so far as joining the EU was concerned !
Naturally we admire him for that !
So far as banning Alcohol or Islamizing the Turkish State or Secularizing the Turkish State is concerned - Why in heaven's name would we care either way ?
If Turkiye were to become the Islamic State of Turkiye - What difference would that make to us ?
Likewise if Turkiye were to become Secular to the point of being Anti-Religious State - What difference would that make to us ?
As far as the Israel thing is concerned - Its about perspectives !
Most Turks go ape-sh*t about anything that has anything to do with Turks or Turkic People or Turkishness or any of those Ethnic Undertones !
Most Pakistanis behave pretty much the same way when it comes to Muslims !
For you guys your Ethnicity matters above everything else.....for us our Religion does - If supporting or opposing a country on the basis of one isn't wrong then I fail to see how could it be wrong in case of the other ?
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