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No I'm actually happy Iraq is regaining its full control over the country, it's pathetic having to deal with 100+ groups when it comes to N.Iraq whereas the only adress should be Baghdad. However today Iraqs military is over dependent on well armed and trained Shia militias who's stings are in the hands of Tahran and various Shia clerics (if you think these guys will choose Baghdads orders over those of its true backers you are on drugs). The only truly respectable Iraqi Army unit are the Golden Division, those guys are really good.Your reply actually says it all, you ignore recent operations by the ISF and head directly back to the 2014 notion which is all you know.
Shortly said, the military is influenced by politics. The collapse was politically motivated, you have not heard testimonies from both previous minister of defense to start with neither read the reports from the official investigation about the collapse.
Tough words from some military enthusiast on a keyboard like so many other forum nationalists who think they're warriors, aside from that you use 'us' way too often to claim sacrifices and achievements of others.
I want post any thing wrong till one of you guys start messing with my country all I did I asked a question about this operation target was ISIS but so far all I see YPG kurds under fire some one can answer that fine thanks non can it's ok but don't mention IRAQ with any thing bad we suppose to be neighbors hence some respect if non then just don't show me your gloat ( not you particular ).You have indeed good imagination. Existing unicorns have a greater possibility than seeing a runner Turkish soldier. Let's make a deal than. Till you see our soldiers run away, leave Turkish section to us. Ok?
The supply route from the east is being cut...oh goodie!Oh btw YPG propaganda map (oh well, still a map):
peace? our soldiers are dying every day cos pkk rats coming from northern iraq ..same shitt last 40 years.I want post any thing wrong till one of you guys start messing with my country all I did I asked a question about this operation target was ISIS but so far all I see YPG kurds under fire some one can answer that fine thanks non can it's ok but don't mention IRAQ with any thing bad we suppose to be neighbors hence some respect if non then just don't show me your gloat ( not you particular ).
PEACE.
The supply route from the east is being cut...oh goodie!
No I'm actually happy Iraq is regaining its full control over the country, it's pathetic having to deal with 100+ groups when it comes to N.Iraq whereas the only adress should be Baghdad. However today Iraqs military is over dependent on well armed and trained Shia militias who's stings are in the hands of Tahran and various Shia clerics (if you think these guys will choose Baghdads orders over those of its true backers you are on drugs). The only truly respectable Iraqi Army unit are the Golden Division, those guys are really good.
What i'm saying is you say 'us' rather than TAF, you're not fighting.Not tough words just the truth. If you don't like it, stop reading the thread
Stalingrad failed though I'd say let's hope they go for...Carthage after the Romans passed though: one big smoldering ruinThey should do a Stalingrad and encircle them allready.
Congrats on the wake up, just wish it didn't require initially donating 40% percent of the country and warehouses full of weapons to Isis scum. The sooner Iraq becomes stable the sooner the ME will stabilize.Here's part of what I wrote yesterday in another thread.
Last 2 years have actually transformed the ISF which was a COIN only trained force to now a force capable of fighting conventional battles, the storming of Fallujah was the last major OP which surprised American generals wth it's speed (4 weeks), they themselves took longer against a weaker enemy with more equipment.
This transformation goes for infantry as well as cavalry. The ISF used to lose many Abrams tanks back in 2014 and 2015, we don't see that happen anymore. In fact, the US described an Abrams tank crew as the following.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/...tank-plays-role-iraqi-fight-against-isis.html
A U.S.-trained Iraqi crew working with a U.S.-supplied M1A1 Abrams tanknow known as the "Beast" played a major role in taking and clearing the town of Hit in western Anbar province of ISIS fighters, a U.S. military spokesman said Wednesday.
"It's become a bit of a folk hero" to the Iraqi Counter-Terror Services and regular Iraqi army troops who drove militants affiliated with the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, from Hit and are now engaged in clearing operations in the Euphrates valley town, Army Col. Steve Warren said of the tracked vehicle.
"The tank has been so successful, this one tank crew, that American advisers have given it the 'Hero of the Day' award for several days," said Warren, a spokesman for Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve in Baghdad.
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No not just ISOF/Golden division. The rest has caught up ineffectiveness prior and after the Ramadi operation which marked the shift from COIN to conventional force. Again this is not from me it's info from Col. Steve Warren who was in Anbar 10 years ago as well. Now i'm not saying the ISF is a force without problems, i'm saying that now they're an effective force which is proven daily. Previous failures mainly due to the (corrupt/sabotaging) policies of the executive, legislative and judiciary branches by politicians/judges who influence the military do not alter their current effectiveness.
The political side is complicated but what it basically comes down to is that chaos and a weak army presents the right ground for the rise of many armed groups (The reason why militia's erupted in 2014), this decentralization of armed groups is only preferred by certain foreign officials. Eventually they will be integrated, but that depends on several factors such as stability.
What i'm saying is you say 'us' rather than TAF, you're not fighting.
I guess it is a European thing, a concept of seeing matters of your country as a matter of you yourself along with the rest of the population.What i'm saying is you say 'us' rather than TAF, you're not fighting.
I swear I was laughing at their response it looks like I touched the nerve ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha the think that make me laugh non stop is that I imagine them in fear they see their soldiers running like the saudis tons in one pick up they even left their tanks their trucks humvees running blindly hitting each other so I'm waiting to see them running on their rattling feet
when that happen please bros Turks don't come to the PDF for few days because you'll
see me here because I'll be waiting on you.
now please