Kebapçı Erhan
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I think we got our tank back and captured an ISIS APC.
I don't speak French though.
I don't speak French though.
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I dont care from what nationality or ethnics he is if he is talking in acting in this way he is not welcomed hereHe is Iranian - they think they are always enlightening humanity.
Oh I absolutely agree.I dont care from what nationality or ethnics he is if he is talking in acting in this way he is not welcomed here
The way you are talking about the casualties of the turkish army and the waay you want to exagerate this and in one way try to lie about this is disrespectfull. I will say it again but in more direct manner. If you have the courage to talk in this manner and serve information to the families of our martyrs in this way then you can talk what you want here but if you dont then dont talk anymore and leave the thread you are giving only more pain in our hearts.
I think we got our tank back and captured an ISIS APC.
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I don't speak French though.
We all know about our governments bad decisions and nobody will oppose that but you are realy disrespectful please leave the thread.Well, if it did cause you any pain, my apologies. My beef is with the Turkish governments and its bad foreign policies; not with the soldiers on the ground.
Well, if it did cause you any pain, my apologies. My beef is with the Turkish governments and its bad foreign policies; not with the soldiers on the ground.
Thank you brother. Have a nice holiday and stay safe.Several ISIS members were killed by the Turkish and Rebel forces in Al-Bab. Two vehicles were also captured. I suppose that the Turkish Leopard was re-captured and that an ISIS BMP-1 was also captured.
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weak technologyIs it possible? some of the Turkish commanders are working in Western favor? They may want more casualties to pressure on government.
Turkish Armed Forces is one of the biggest and most disciplined armies in the world and 2nd largest standing force in NATO. They have advanced military equipment. Why are so many soldiers getting casualties?
The technology that turkish army have is enough to prevent this type of casualties. The question is why the turkish army dont use the resources it have.weak technology
Huge number
Results casualties
buy drones that can strike.We know that this operation is a must for Turkish Nation's security, but we are complaining about the way of our stupid commanders use with their "strategy".
It is pathetic that we cannot use our choppers. Just, pat-he-tic. Watch this video
How many minutes took to destroy detected enemy target? 30 minutes? 1 hour??? What if it wasnt just a pickup but bunch of bomb cars that aproaching to our soldiers??? And that is literally what happened today.
I am hundred percent sure there are footages like that video above, our UAVs recorded IS bomb cars aproaching our boys and explode themself, and we could only WATCH. If it was an attack chopper, all the moving targets would be neutralised looong ago before they go where whey wanted to go.
It is PATHETIC
The casualties can be reduced after using the reserved Leopard-2. But it will give a bad pulse to Syria and Russia. Obviously that will be an act of war and Syrian government will not tolerate it. Currently Turkey has to use those old and outdated American M-series tanks against Kurds and probably ISIS...The technology that turkish army have is enough to prevent this type of casualties. The question is why the turkish army dont use the resources it have.
I dont thin this is the problem the main problem is from VBIEDs ATGMs and snipers and we have the resource to hunt all of them. We have radar with range of 40 km that can track people we have good electrooptic systems we can use acoustic detectors and guided rockets/bombs we have UAVs on very good level we can use attack helicopters. With this combination of systems and good tactics we can take Al Bab without any problem. If we strike them in the begining of the activity when we see them with our surveillance system this will do a major psychological damage to them. With this formula we can take Al Bab with very small number of casualties. Every technology I listed above is turkish made and we can do it. The Leopards are power themselves but I am talking about smaler things that can turn the game.The casualties can be reduced after using the reserved Leopard-2. But it will give a bad pulse to Syria and Russia. Obviously that will be an act of war and Syrian government will not tolerate it. Currently Turkey has to use those old and outdated American M-series tanks against Kurds and probably ISIS...