Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

[KediKesenFare3]

US, France plan to create political space for YPG/PKK
Plan aims to separate Kurdish National Council from National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces
11.05.2020

HASAKA/AZAZ, Syria

The US and France are preparing to use the Kurdish National Council (KNC) in Syria as a cover to create an international representation space for the YPG/PKK terrorist organization in northern Syria.



The US and France, which mediated negotiations between the YPG/PKK and KNC, have emerged with a new request, according to information obtained by Anadolu Agency (AA) from opposition Kurdish groups.

The two countries have asked the KNC to resign from the membership of the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces.
The countries commissioned the leader of Iraq's Kurdish Regional Government (KRG) Nechirvan Barzani since he was the biggest supporter of the KNC.
The US and France suggested if the KNC got separated from the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces, the umbrella organization will lose its capacity of representing Kurdish people.
Therefore, they suggested that a new structure, which will be established in northern Syria, will represent Kurds in the international community.
The plan enables YPG/PKK to participate in political processes in the international arena, which has not been included until now, by using the new structure.
Meanwhile, the KNC refuted Saturday the allegations that it had left the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces.
The negotiations, which lasted for about a month in Hasakah, a Syrian province under the YPG/PKK occupation, were held between delegations determined by Ferhat Abdi Sirin, codenamed Mazlum Abdi, a prominent YPG/PKK ringleader, and Nechirvan Barzani.
Especially with the initiatives of the US, France and Irbil government, the YPG/PKK has fulfilled the conditions for the opening of offices for the KNC, the release of the KNC members who have been held, and their free movement in the region.
During the negotiations, which have been intensified by the initiatives of the US and France over the past week, the parties have largely agreed on the so-called joint administration.
The only remaining problem was the returning of the peshmergas loyal to the KNC in northern Iraq, to the areas under the YPG/PKK occupation.
The return of the peshmergas has been postponed for now, and it was decided to put into operation the so-called joint administration as soon as possible, according to information obtained by Anadolu Agency from the sources participating in the negotiations.
After occupying northern Syria, the YPG/PKK prevented activities of members of the opposition KNC, liquidated its armed elements and arrested many of KNC’s political members. The terrorist organization had also locked the KNC offices.
For many years, the KNC has been known for its closeness to the Kurdish Democratic Party, led by Masoud Barzani. Some parties under the KNC operate with the financial support and the protection of the Barzani family.




https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/us-france-plan-to-create-political-space-for-ypg-pkk/1836111

Barzani supporting PKK. We have to crush the KRG.

Barzani doesn't support the PKK. Barzani wants to take the position of PKK for the Western world and Turkey is actually supporting this.

I haven't shared it on this board but right now incredible things are happening in Northern Iraq. For instance, Barzani's Peşmerge is blocking PKK routes and occupying important positions in the mountains all around Kandil. They are effectively supporting Turkish troops and intelligence agents.

PKK supporters are going nuts and accusing them of "being in bed with the facist Turkish regime".

There's an important power game happening between Kurdish groups in N Iraq in these days mainly instigated by Turkey. The public just doesn't take notice due to corona news.

 

[Glass]

@KediKesenFare No, ur misunderstanding something very hard. Very, very hard.

We are all aware of whats happening right now in north iraq and that has little do with the KRG wanting to get rid of the PKK, they are supporting the PKK as well but have to simply accept the fact that we are buttfcking the PKK duo to new realities but what they now attempt in Syria is something very dangerous for us, they want to create new dynamics by aligning the PKK with the KDP aligned KNC, that means as far as I understand:

They want to decouple the KNC which is under "Turkish umbrella" inside the Syrian national council, move its office out of Turkey to the Saudis and Egypt and create a new political party. That means that they want to get rid of Turkish influence and mind u our main priority in Syria is to make sure that no kurdish entity comes out of this, no matter if Barzani or PKK aligned and we largely achieved this´and obviously the 2nd the return of the refugees.

We also in fact never wanted something like the KRG in the first place but back in the days we simply didnt have enough hard and softpower to make sure that we can stop this, nowadays we have which is why we are acting and striking if they dont know their place.


At the end of the day if they come to an agreement, which I doubt because these dynamics would be very dangerous for the KRG itself which is already facing economic collapse and iraqi pressure we are going to strike the KNC aligned militas as well. I see it more as a last attempt to try to get some influence before the americans fully leave.


US, France seek political platform for YPG/PKK terrorists


The U.S. and France are preparing to use the Kurdish National Council (KNC) in Syria as a cover to create an international representation space for the YPG/PKK terrorist organization in northern Syria.
The U.S. and France, which mediated negotiations between the YPG/PKK and KNC, have emerged with a new request, according to information obtained by Anadolu Agency (AA) from opposition Kurdish groups.
The two countries have asked the KNC to resign from the membership of the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces.
The countries commissioned the leader of Iraq's Kurdish Regional Government (KRG) Nechirvan Barzani since he was the biggest supporter of the KNC.
The U.S. and France suggested if the KNC was separated from the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces, the umbrella organization will lose its capacity of representing Kurdish people.


Therefore, they suggested that a new structure, which will be established in northern Syria, will represent Kurds in the international community.
The plan enables the YPG/PKK to participate in political processes in the international arena, from which they have been largely excluded until now.
Meanwhile, the KNC on Saturday refuted allegations that it had left the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces.
The negotiations, which lasted for about a month in al-Hassakah, a Syrian province under the YPG/PKK occupation, were held between delegations determined by Ferhat Abdi Sirin, code-named Mazlum Abdi, a prominent YPG/PKK ringleader, and Nechirvan Barzani.
Especially with the initiatives of the U.S., France and Irbil government, the YPG/PKK has fulfilled the conditions for the opening of offices for the KNC, the release of the KNC members who have been held and their free movement in the region.

During the negotiations, which were intensified by the initiatives of the U.S. and France over the past week, the parties have largely agreed on the so-called joint administration.
The only remaining problem was the returning of the peshmergas loyal to the KNC in northern Iraq, to the areas under the YPG/PKK occupation.

The return of the peshmergas has been postponed for now, and it was decided to put into operation the so-called joint administration as soon as possible, according to information obtained by the AA from the sources participating in the negotiations.

After occupying northern Syria, the YPG/PKK prevented activities of members of the opposition KNC, liquidated its armed elements and arrested many of KNC's political members. The terrorist organization had also locked the KNC offices.

For many years, the KNC has been known for its closeness to the Kurdish Democratic Party, led by Masoud Barzani. Some parties under the KNC operate with the financial support and the protection of the Barzani family.

Both the U.S. and France are known for their ongoing support of the terrorist group. Back in April 2019, French President Emmanuel Macron hosted a delegation of the so-called Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), which is dominated by the YPG terrorist group.

Macron assured the SDF representatives, who were not named, of the "active support of France in the fight against Daesh which continues to be a menace for collective security," the presidency said in a statement. The move came following the U.S.' decision to withdraw from Syria, creating a fear of being left alone among the YPG terrorists.

The U.S. has primarily partnered with the YPG in northeastern Syria in the fight against the Daesh terrorist group. Turkey strongly opposes the YPG's presence in northern Syria, which has been a major sticking point in strained Turkey-U.S. relations. The U.S. has provided military training and thousands of truckloads of weaponry to the YPG, despite its NATO ally's security concerns.

After announcing the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Syria twice, President Donald Trump has added more complexity to the American military's mission in the region by claiming a right to Syria's oil.

Extending the mission to secure eastern Syria's oil fields happens to fit neatly into the Pentagon's view, supported by some Trump allies in Congress.

U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper said in November that the military's oil field mission will also provide the SDF, dominated by the YPG, a source of income.

Esper added that securing the Deir el-Zour oil fields was a legitimate move to block a major source of income for Daesh. A few years ago, the terror group was exploiting the oil to finance its so-called "caliphate," carving out large swaths of Syria and Iraq with an army that has largely been decimated.

Since the U.S. military carried out an air campaign destroying tankers used by Daesh to transport oil for black market sales and damaged many oil facilities, the U.S.-backed YPG terrorists, supported by a small contingent of U.S. troops, have taken control of the region's oil.



https://www.dailysabah.com/politics...seek-political-platform-for-ypgpkk-terrorists

 

[Saithan]

@KediKesenFare No, ur misunderstanding something very hard. Very, very hard.

We are all aware of whats happening right now in north iraq and that has little do with the KRG wanting to get rid of the PKK, they are supporting the PKK as well but have to simply accept the fact that we are buttfcking the PKK duo to new realities but what they now attempt in Syria is something very dangerous for us, they want to create new dynamics by aligning the PKK with the KDP aligned KNC, that means as far as I understand:

They want to decouple the KNC which is under "Turkish umbrella" inside the Syrian national council, move its office out of Turkey to the Saudis and Egypt and create a new political party. That means that they want to get rid of Turkish influence and mind u our main priority in Syria is to make sure that no kurdish entity comes out of this, no matter if Barzani or PKK aligned and we largely achieved this´and obviously the 2nd the return of the refugees.

We also in fact never wanted something like the KRG in the first place but back in the days we simply didnt have enough hard and softpower to make sure that we can stop this, nowadays we have which is why we are acting and striking if they dont know their place.


At the end of the day if they come to an agreement, which I doubt because these dynamics would be very dangerous for the KRG itself which is already facing economic collapse and iraqi pressure we are going to strike the KNC aligned militas as well. I see it more as a last attempt to try to get some influence before the americans fully leave.


US, France seek political platform for YPG/PKK terrorists


The U.S. and France are preparing to use the Kurdish National Council (KNC) in Syria as a cover to create an international representation space for the YPG/PKK terrorist organization in northern Syria.
The U.S. and France, which mediated negotiations between the YPG/PKK and KNC, have emerged with a new request, according to information obtained by Anadolu Agency (AA) from opposition Kurdish groups.
The two countries have asked the KNC to resign from the membership of the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces.
The countries commissioned the leader of Iraq's Kurdish Regional Government (KRG) Nechirvan Barzani since he was the biggest supporter of the KNC.
The U.S. and France suggested if the KNC was separated from the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces, the umbrella organization will lose its capacity of representing Kurdish people.


Therefore, they suggested that a new structure, which will be established in northern Syria, will represent Kurds in the international community.
The plan enables the YPG/PKK to participate in political processes in the international arena, from which they have been largely excluded until now.
Meanwhile, the KNC on Saturday refuted allegations that it had left the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces.
The negotiations, which lasted for about a month in al-Hassakah, a Syrian province under the YPG/PKK occupation, were held between delegations determined by Ferhat Abdi Sirin, code-named Mazlum Abdi, a prominent YPG/PKK ringleader, and Nechirvan Barzani.
Especially with the initiatives of the U.S., France and Irbil government, the YPG/PKK has fulfilled the conditions for the opening of offices for the KNC, the release of the KNC members who have been held and their free movement in the region.

During the negotiations, which were intensified by the initiatives of the U.S. and France over the past week, the parties have largely agreed on the so-called joint administration.
The only remaining problem was the returning of the peshmergas loyal to the KNC in northern Iraq, to the areas under the YPG/PKK occupation.

The return of the peshmergas has been postponed for now, and it was decided to put into operation the so-called joint administration as soon as possible, according to information obtained by the AA from the sources participating in the negotiations.

After occupying northern Syria, the YPG/PKK prevented activities of members of the opposition KNC, liquidated its armed elements and arrested many of KNC's political members. The terrorist organization had also locked the KNC offices.

For many years, the KNC has been known for its closeness to the Kurdish Democratic Party, led by Masoud Barzani. Some parties under the KNC operate with the financial support and the protection of the Barzani family.

Both the U.S. and France are known for their ongoing support of the terrorist group. Back in April 2019, French President Emmanuel Macron hosted a delegation of the so-called Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), which is dominated by the YPG terrorist group.

Macron assured the SDF representatives, who were not named, of the "active support of France in the fight against Daesh which continues to be a menace for collective security," the presidency said in a statement. The move came following the U.S.' decision to withdraw from Syria, creating a fear of being left alone among the YPG terrorists.

The U.S. has primarily partnered with the YPG in northeastern Syria in the fight against the Daesh terrorist group. Turkey strongly opposes the YPG's presence in northern Syria, which has been a major sticking point in strained Turkey-U.S. relations. The U.S. has provided military training and thousands of truckloads of weaponry to the YPG, despite its NATO ally's security concerns.

After announcing the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Syria twice, President Donald Trump has added more complexity to the American military's mission in the region by claiming a right to Syria's oil.

Extending the mission to secure eastern Syria's oil fields happens to fit neatly into the Pentagon's view, supported by some Trump allies in Congress.

U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper said in November that the military's oil field mission will also provide the SDF, dominated by the YPG, a source of income.

Esper added that securing the Deir el-Zour oil fields was a legitimate move to block a major source of income for Daesh. A few years ago, the terror group was exploiting the oil to finance its so-called "caliphate," carving out large swaths of Syria and Iraq with an army that has largely been decimated.

Since the U.S. military carried out an air campaign destroying tankers used by Daesh to transport oil for black market sales and damaged many oil facilities, the U.S.-backed YPG terrorists, supported by a small contingent of U.S. troops, have taken control of the region's oil.



https://www.dailysabah.com/politics...seek-political-platform-for-ypgpkk-terrorists

And it is being rejected by the people

https://www.dailysabah.com/politics...-mediation-talks-call-for-pkk-withdrawal/news

So while France and US wants to instate a terrorist state in between Turkey, Syria and Iraq the kurdish population rejects these terrorists.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Idlib kids throw rocks at Russian army tanks on M4 highway

https://twitter.com/x/status/1260140375752269824

https://twitter.com/x/status/1260141270724468738

 

[Glass]

And it is being rejected by the people

https://www.dailysabah.com/politics...-mediation-talks-call-for-pkk-withdrawal/news

So while France and US wants to instate a terrorist state in between Turkey, Syria and Iraq the kurdish population rejects these terrorists.

Because

At the end of the day if they come to an agreement, which I doubt because these dynamics would be very dangerous for the KRG itself which is already facing economic collapse and iraqi pressure we are going to strike the KNC aligned militas as well. I see it more as a last attempt to try to get some influence before the americans fully leave.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

@KediKesenFare No, ur misunderstanding something very hard. Very, very hard.

We are all aware of whats happening right now in north iraq and that has little do with the KRG wanting to get rid of the PKK, they are supporting the PKK as well but have to simply accept the fact that we are buttfcking the PKK duo to new realities but what they now attempt in Syria is something very dangerous for us, they want to create new dynamics by aligning the PKK with the KDP aligned KNC, that means as far as I understand:

They want to decouple the KNC which is under "Turkish umbrella" inside the Syrian national council, move its office out of Turkey to the Saudis and Egypt and create a new political party. That means that they want to get rid of Turkish influence and mind u our main priority in Syria is to make sure that no kurdish entity comes out of this, no matter if Barzani or PKK aligned and we largely achieved this´and obviously the 2nd the return of the refugees.

We also in fact never wanted something like the KRG in the first place but back in the days we simply didnt have enough hard and softpower to make sure that we can stop this, nowadays we have which is why we are acting and striking if they dont know their place.


At the end of the day if they come to an agreement, which I doubt because these dynamics would be very dangerous for the KRG itself which is already facing economic collapse and iraqi pressure we are going to strike the KNC aligned militas as well. I see it more as a last attempt to try to get some influence before the americans fully leave.


US, France seek political platform for YPG/PKK terrorists


The U.S. and France are preparing to use the Kurdish National Council (KNC) in Syria as a cover to create an international representation space for the YPG/PKK terrorist organization in northern Syria.
The U.S. and France, which mediated negotiations between the YPG/PKK and KNC, have emerged with a new request, according to information obtained by Anadolu Agency (AA) from opposition Kurdish groups.
The two countries have asked the KNC to resign from the membership of the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces.
The countries commissioned the leader of Iraq's Kurdish Regional Government (KRG) Nechirvan Barzani since he was the biggest supporter of the KNC.
The U.S. and France suggested if the KNC was separated from the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces, the umbrella organization will lose its capacity of representing Kurdish people.


Therefore, they suggested that a new structure, which will be established in northern Syria, will represent Kurds in the international community.
The plan enables the YPG/PKK to participate in political processes in the international arena, from which they have been largely excluded until now.
Meanwhile, the KNC on Saturday refuted allegations that it had left the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces.
The negotiations, which lasted for about a month in al-Hassakah, a Syrian province under the YPG/PKK occupation, were held between delegations determined by Ferhat Abdi Sirin, code-named Mazlum Abdi, a prominent YPG/PKK ringleader, and Nechirvan Barzani.
Especially with the initiatives of the U.S., France and Irbil government, the YPG/PKK has fulfilled the conditions for the opening of offices for the KNC, the release of the KNC members who have been held and their free movement in the region.

During the negotiations, which were intensified by the initiatives of the U.S. and France over the past week, the parties have largely agreed on the so-called joint administration.
The only remaining problem was the returning of the peshmergas loyal to the KNC in northern Iraq, to the areas under the YPG/PKK occupation.

The return of the peshmergas has been postponed for now, and it was decided to put into operation the so-called joint administration as soon as possible, according to information obtained by the AA from the sources participating in the negotiations.

After occupying northern Syria, the YPG/PKK prevented activities of members of the opposition KNC, liquidated its armed elements and arrested many of KNC's political members. The terrorist organization had also locked the KNC offices.

For many years, the KNC has been known for its closeness to the Kurdish Democratic Party, led by Masoud Barzani. Some parties under the KNC operate with the financial support and the protection of the Barzani family.

Both the U.S. and France are known for their ongoing support of the terrorist group. Back in April 2019, French President Emmanuel Macron hosted a delegation of the so-called Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), which is dominated by the YPG terrorist group.

Macron assured the SDF representatives, who were not named, of the "active support of France in the fight against Daesh which continues to be a menace for collective security," the presidency said in a statement. The move came following the U.S.' decision to withdraw from Syria, creating a fear of being left alone among the YPG terrorists.

The U.S. has primarily partnered with the YPG in northeastern Syria in the fight against the Daesh terrorist group. Turkey strongly opposes the YPG's presence in northern Syria, which has been a major sticking point in strained Turkey-U.S. relations. The U.S. has provided military training and thousands of truckloads of weaponry to the YPG, despite its NATO ally's security concerns.

After announcing the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Syria twice, President Donald Trump has added more complexity to the American military's mission in the region by claiming a right to Syria's oil.

Extending the mission to secure eastern Syria's oil fields happens to fit neatly into the Pentagon's view, supported by some Trump allies in Congress.

U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper said in November that the military's oil field mission will also provide the SDF, dominated by the YPG, a source of income.

Esper added that securing the Deir el-Zour oil fields was a legitimate move to block a major source of income for Daesh. A few years ago, the terror group was exploiting the oil to finance its so-called "caliphate," carving out large swaths of Syria and Iraq with an army that has largely been decimated.

Since the U.S. military carried out an air campaign destroying tankers used by Daesh to transport oil for black market sales and damaged many oil facilities, the U.S.-backed YPG terrorists, supported by a small contingent of U.S. troops, have taken control of the region's oil.



https://www.dailysabah.com/politics...seek-political-platform-for-ypgpkk-terrorists

No.

 

[Glass]

No.

yes, i know ur a kurd but thats the way it is.

 

[GlobalMillitary96]

yes, i know ur a kurd but thats the way it is.

I've seen him defending KRG for years, also he used to insult Ataturk all the time.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

yes, i know ur a kurd but thats the way it is.

I knew it.

No, I'm not Kurdish but I have 'friends' who have access to certain people and some relevant circles. I need to know this stuff due to my academic background.

Plus, you guys are underestimating the infighting that happens among Kurdish groups.

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1260144626704551937

UAE buying militia to disrupt TR-RU M4 patrols. Wouldn’t surprise me tbh.

 

[GlobalMillitary96]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1260144626704551937

UAE buying militia to disrupt TR-RU M4 patrols. Wouldn’t surprise me tbh.

UAE needs a big slap. Seriously sick of these pests.

 

[Ansu fati]

Turkey doesn’t want krg to take pkk’s place in northern iraq because the more different terror groups the easier for MIT to control these fools
Krg is simply bankrupted and they are forced to accept turkish demands regarding pkk
Ideal situation for Turkey is civil war in northern Iraq that will not eradicate none of them instead weaken them to an extent that both pkk and krg would be harmless that will spent time blaming each other instead of doing terror attacks

 

[Glass]

I've seen him defending KRG for years, also he used to insult Ataturk all the time. All these traitors hide behind Islam.

I know that as well, we both are active since 2016 and back then this thread was -"more intense" if u remember lol.

@KediKesenFare Believe whatever u want to believe tbh.the krg u endorsed so much lost troughout the years so much influence, land and standing in the neighborhood.

 

[Ansu fati]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1260144626704551937

UAE buying militia to disrupt TR-RU M4 patrols. Wouldn’t surprise me tbh.

Well I have read 20 minutes ago about possible turkish involvement through TFSA in Yemen
The time has come for little sparta to take the ottoman slap

 

[Saithan]

I honestly don’t recall Kedikesen to have any pro krg stance. Maybe just pointing out some things, developments etc. Most turks in forums have a tendency to post something ad being definitiv, whilst it’s often a speculation on how they see things. But the readers dependingon their conviction take it as an insult or treason. We have to move past that small minded mentality.