Turkish nuclear weapons program?

[ÇölKaplanı]

Hahahah this made no suprise on me, you watch Binkovs Battlegrounds on Youtube and come here open an unnecessary discussion about it. What's next? Opening discussions with the Global Firepower lists? No wonder you were acting so childish in the last couple of days. Allahım uğraştığımız tiplere bak ya.

 

[Timur]

lets build the ozon layer destroyer

also the ebola hiv flu

the reality is our country had been held down.. no nuclear researches no plants nothing had been done.. this goes hand in hand with technology and industry buying was better for many leaders.. so time has being wasted ppl enjoyed the sun outside and did not do much..

so we lack in:

Planes, Land Vehicles, Engines, Production Maschienes , Nuclear research and Energy, Chemical Pharma industry.. no long range rockets and so on

yeah we made good enhancements but the reality is it was artifically stalled and held back and some of us please dont begin to count our projects like a bot..

and now we could do many things but the capabilities and recources are needed to do all that.. we need to choose what is better and should have more focus on things that are really needed.

so nuclear bomb is a fantastic idea to boost our pride but currently we dont have a threat that pushues us to build it and doing it would hurt current processes and the enhancement of our industry and military..

it makes no sence to build it now.. but it makes sence to build long range cruise missles and ballistic missles with 1 ton payload and min 1500km range
it makes sence to build biological weapons we shoudl focus on flu and other really bad things.. also for pharma industry we should make it a little bit stronger..

 

[Pax Ottomana]

That's what they said with Pakistan too. Once a country that has resources makes a commitment not much any one can do. Best way forward is to ensure a peaceful world with Israel's nukes removed and then other powers can systematically cut down their nukes and conventional threats. I know it's quite idealistic view but only way forward to prevent spread and eventual mutual annihilation. The highest risks are always crumbling powers who risk all to attain what little they have.

Does Pakistan have an indigenous reactor design capable of burning natural Uranium and producing Plutonium?

 

[khansaheeb]

Does Pakistan have an indigenous reactor design capable of burning natural Uranium and producing Plutonium?

If we haven't gone down fast breeder reactor route then there is a reason why:-

https://thebulletin.org/2016/11/a-f...erverse-pursuit-of-breeder-reactors-in-india/

Yes but Turkey does not need nuclear weapons since it has no imminent threat unlike Pakistan. Look at all the nuclear powers in the world ... all of them have credible threats directed towards them. Turkey does not. And even then Pakistan suffered diplomatic isolation and sanctions due to nukes ... in other words its just not necessary. Pakistan was facing the threat of nuclear annihilation from India had it not developed nukes. Turkey is in no such scenario.

What credible threat does the UK have? Threat to Turkey is Israel and Russia both of which Turkey has prospect for conflict in the future.

 

[Figaro]

If we haven't gone down fast breeder reactor route then there is a reason why:-

https://thebulletin.org/2016/11/a-f...erverse-pursuit-of-breeder-reactors-in-india/


What credible threat does the UK have? Threat to Turkey is Israel and Russia both of which Turkey has prospect for conflict in the future.

UK used to have the Soviet Union and still has Russia and maybe China ... once again if this logic held then many countries would need nuclear weapons because they are threatened by some countries (e.g. Vietnam, South Korea, Georgia, Ukraine, etc).

 

[himate]

Where there is a will, there is a way. I have full confidence that this administration will go nuclear. They had the will and determination to bring us this far with defence industrial complex im sure WW2 tech wont be hard
Im also sure MMU will also be realised inshaAllah as long as govt keep up the determination.

Previous secular tutelage deep state since ww2 denied turkey to build nuclear plant and they even denied Turkey to build a car let alone fighter plane. This govt have broken the back of secular and kemalist tutelage and thats the reason they will aim as far as the sky for Turkey

 

[khansaheeb]

UK used to have the Soviet Union and still has Russia and maybe China ... once again if this logic held then many countries would need nuclear weapons because they are threatened by some countries (e.g. Vietnam, South Korea, Georgia, Ukraine, etc).

Since when has Russia invaded the UK or threatened to invade the UK?

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

What exactly do you mean by this?

Turkey is now a Muslim Israel.

Turkey should do it. But no Western/Zionist power would want to see muslims(no matter how secular) with the N-Bombs.

 

[GlobalMillitary96]

What exactly do you mean by this?

Turkey was, back before Erdoğan's time a formidable country which scared the crap out of it's neighbours. This is because the Turkish army consisted of motivated soldiers with good training. Turkey was the sole power in the region until Erdoğan came along and crippled the Turkish military with the help of Fetullah Gulen. Now that all the general's are released and their say in Turkish military affairs has returned, Turkey is now a terrifying entity in the region.

The discipline of the old days has returned and the good old bold strategic moves are now used once again. After the resignation of Adnan Tanrıverdi, TSK is no longer in shackles.

Temporarily our army was run like an Arab army. Now TSK is much more like the Israeli army, more bite, less bark.

That said Israel really isn't anything special. They have good tactics and equipment, sure. However the reason they are so highly regarded is because their neighbours are incompetent idiots compared to them.

 

[himate]

Turkey was, back before Erdoğan's time a formidable country which scared the crap out of it's neighbours. This is because the Turkish army consisted of motivated soldiers with good training. Turkey was the sole power in the region until Erdoğan came along and crippled the Turkish military with the help of Fetullah Gulen. Now that all the general's are released and their say in Turkish military affairs has returned, Turkey is now a terrifying entity in the region.

The discipline of the old days has returned and the good old bold strategic moves are now used once again. After the resignation of Adnan Tanrıverdi, TSK is no longer in shackles.

Temporarily our army was run like an Arab army. Now TSK is much more like the Israeli army, more bite, less bark.

That said Israel really isn't anything special. They have good tactics and equipment, sure. However the reason they are so highly regarded is because their neighbours are incompetent idiots compared to them.

The west promote you when youre their puppet. They instill false sense of security when your doing their bidding. Before erdogan the secular tutelage state of turkey was a pawn for the Israelis and their western supporters and they gave them the false impression of the strength of turkey but were in fact no where near what turkey is today.
The Israelis and the western supporters are doing the same with egypt today by instilling false sense of security into Egyptian. Notice how they (gloablfirepower) rank them militarily above turkey or pakistan but in reality when push come to shove the egyptian armed forces won't fair any better than the syrian army. All of Egyptian asset will become ashes in few weeks should the Egyptians coup regime ever dare to punch above their weight and start a real war by believing the false narrative created by their masters. The western narrative is always created for a reason.

 

[War Historian]

UK used to have the Soviet Union and still has Russia and maybe China ... once again if this logic held then many countries would need nuclear weapons because they are threatened by some countries (e.g. Vietnam, South Korea, Georgia, Ukraine, etc).

Off the topic
Ukraine had thousand of nuclear warheads. But it surrender to disarmament in front of US Dollars 15 years ago.
Now you all can see the frustration on their leader's faces. If they have now the nukes.

Was it possible for Russia to disintegrate Kremea from them?

Turkey must develop nukes otherwise Permanent 5 will not take it serious. Thanks

 

[Pax Ottomana]

The west promote you when youre their puppet. They instill false sense of security when your doing their bidding. Before erdogan the secular tutelage state of turkey was a pawn for the Israelis and their western supporters and they gave them the false impression of the strength of turkey but were in fact no where near what turkey is today.
The Israelis and the western supporters are doing the same with egypt today by instilling false sense of security into Egyptian. Notice how they (gloablfirepower) rank them militarily above turkey or pakistan but in reality when push come to shove the egyptian armed forces won't fair any better than the syrian army. All of Egyptian asset will become ashes in few weeks should the Egyptians coup regime ever dare to punch above their weight and start a real war by believing the false narrative created by their masters. The western narrative is always created for a reason.

This is spot on vis-a-vis Egypt's "ranking" and current geopolitical behavior in the East Med.

Off the topic
Ukraine had thousand of nuclear warheads. But it surrender to disarmament in front of US Dollars 15 years ago.
Now you all can see the frustration on their leader's faces. If they have now the nukes.

Was it possible for Russia to disintegrate Kremea from them?

Turkey must develop nukes otherwise Permanent 5 will not take it serious. Thanks

Well said. It is absolutely paramount for Turkey to possess nuclear capability in order to safeguard its future in the medium and long run. This doesn't have to mean an elaborate, expensive, US/Russia style nuclear triad with huge nuclear submarines, etc. Just a small number of indigenous megaton-class thermonuclear warheads on fixed or mobile ballistic missiles and some miniaturized kiloton-class tactical warheads for cruise missiles and aircraft will suffice. There's no reason Turkey should spend much more on its nuclear program than Pakistan is spending on theirs.

 

[Deliorman]

Since my childhood it has always been my dream to see Turkey as a nuclear power. Possessing such capabilities is a matter of prestige and of true Military might.
Without Nukes you can never call yourself a true Great Power. If Turkey has the ambitions to ever be one it has to build A bomb.

ps Can Turkey ever do it- probably not and never will. The train to acquire nukes has left the station long ago. Doing it in todays world will be way to expensive and dangerous and simply impossible.

 

[dbc]

Since my childhood it has always been my dream to see Turkey as a nuclear power. Possessing such capabilities is a matter of prestige and of true Military might.
Without Nukes you can never call yourself a true Great Power. If Turkey has the ambitions to ever be one it has to build A bomb.

ps Can Turkey ever do it- probably not and never will. The train to acquire nukes has left the station long ago. Doing it in todays world will be way to expensive and dangerous and simply impossible.

I think so too, the nuclear bomb train has left the station for Turkey. It's not an issue of scientific or engineering capability. The main issue is testing, Turkey is bang in the middle of three tectonic plates - Arabian, Eurasian and African, crisscrossed with many fault lines. Even if the political will to test is mustered finding a suitable test site in Turkey will be a challenge.

Of course, one of the nuclear powers can give Turkey the necessary computer simulation models to bypass testing entirely. But who? and why?

 

[himate]

I think so too, the nuclear bomb train has left the station for Turkey. It's not an issue of scientific or engineering capability. The main issue is testing, Turkey is bang in the middle of three tectonic plates - Arabian, Eurasian and African, crisscrossed with many fault lines. Even if the political will to test is mustered finding a suitable test site in Turkey will be a challenge.

Of course, one of the nuclear powers can give Turkey the necessary computer simulation models to bypass testing entirely. But who? and why?

Turkey can always test in somalia