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Turkish Navy authorized over oil crisis with Greek Cyprus
Mon 10 November 2014

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The Turkish Navy have been authorized over the oil crisis with Greek Cyprus.
The Turkish Navy has been authorized by the government for the full implementation of recently amended rules of engagement in the eastern Mediterranean in the face of growing tension between littoral countries, including Turkey, Greek Cyprus, Egypt and Israel over oil and natural gas drilling projects, Hurriyet Daily reports.

“The Prime Ministry handed over the rules of engagement to the Chief of General Staff and the Chief of Staff handed them over to the Naval Forces Command. We will act in line with these rules of engagement in the event we face a situation over this issue,” Adm. Bülent Bostanoğlu, the naval forces commander, told reporters Nov. 9 in Muğla as he participated in the Blue Whale-2014 naval exercise.

“Our naval forces elements will continue their mission of situational awareness in the region.”

Bostanoğlu’s statement came after a question on which rules of engagement the Turkish Navy would follow if Turkish vessels confront Greek or Israeli warships in the eastern Mediterranean.

Tension between Turkey and the Greek Cyprus-Greece duo has increased recently after the Greek Cypriot government issued licenses for oil and natural gas exploration in its claimed economic exclusive zones in the eastern Mediterranean. Turkey strongly criticized the move, saying it was a clear breach of Turkey and Turkish Cypriots’ rights and sent a seismic exploration vessel to the region for its own drilling purposes and one warship for the surveillance of foreign platform vessels being used for oil exploration.

“The Turkish Naval Forces is providing support and close protection to the Barbaros Hayrettin Paşa Research Vessel. On the other hand, it continues to keep the drill ship hired by the Greek Cypriot administration under surveillance from nine kilometers’ distance. The order given to us for the moment is not to enter into this nine-kilometer area. That’s why no incident of harassment or disturbance has occurred,” he said.

The Turkish naval commander said the ongoing Blue Whale exercise had nothing to do with ongoing tension and that it was a biannual exercise whose preparations started two years ago. “The objective of the exercise is to improve cooperation with our allies and particularly to perform anti-submarine defense operations,” he said.

The tension between Turkey and Greek Cyprus has recently turned into a regional one as the latter took advantage of the former’s worsening relations with Egypt and Israel, which both have similar claims in the eastern Mediterranean. Greek, Greek Cypriot and Egyptian leaders came together at a tripartite summit in Cairo where they discussed regional security and economic cooperation.

Greek Cypriot President Nicos Anastasiades on Nov. 8 accused Turkey of “provocative actions” that he said Ankara was hindering the island’s peace talks and compromising security in the eastern Mediterranean.

“Turkey’s provocative actions do not just compromise the peace talks, but also affect security in the eastern Mediterranean region,” Anastasiades said at a joint press conference with his Egyptian counterpart, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, and Greek Prime Minister Antonis Samaras.

“For the [Cyprus peace] negotiations to succeed, Turkey needs to show a positive intention and adopt a constructive stance through positive and effective steps in this direction,” he said.

Ankara issued a notice that a Turkish seismic vessel would carry out a survey until Dec. 30 in the same area where the Italian-Korean energy consortium ENI-Kogas is operating. Ankara opposes the Greek Cypriot government’s exploitation of offshore energy reserves before a deal is reached to solve the decades-long division of the east Mediterranean island.

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Now egypt is getting involved aswell.:(

Hopefully this new silk road with china will be completed soon because it will help cut dependence on the suez canal. Iraq needs to be stabilized aswell so goods coming from the east via the indian ocean can be dropped off in iraq and then brought by truck to turkey.

I also want to add a little conspiracy theory here. :p:

I think the Barbaros Maritime groups mission to sail around africa was a preparation for long travels around africa in case the suez canal gets shut down. This is the first time the navy has done this even though it has always had the capability to do this. Why didn't they do this exercise before? Why recently when relations with egypt started to get bad since erdogan and sisi were going at with each other? :agree:
 
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Its ok. TNF can take the navies of Egypt, Greece, Israel combined; alone. Hopefully we'll have a force to compete with :lol:

On the reality side ,do you really think that ?

As a serious discussion,am I the only one thinking that Erdogan has surrounded Turkey with enemies with his policies which seem to backfire everywhere ? Ok,Greece,Cyprus,Armenia were natural enemies but now you have Egypt ,a couple of Arab Gulf countries (which are bankrolling Egypt's rearmament program) and an unstable and enemy Syria (i wager that Syria will be unfriendly with whatever regime will end up in there-Assad or jihadists,forget the moderates,they don't have a chance.Add to this a hostile Israel and a strenghtening kurdish region.

@Sinan @xenon54 @Neptune @Hakan @atatwolf @madmusti @rmi5 and others,sry can tag you all,you're so many.:lol:
 
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On the reality side ,do you really think that ?

As a serious discussion,am I the only one thinking that Erdogan has surrounded Turkey with enemies with his policies which seem to backfire everywhere ? Ok,Greece,Cyprus,Armenia were natural enemies but now you have Egypt ,a couple of Arab Gulf countries (which are bankrolling Egypt's rearmament program) and an unstable and enemy Syria (i wager that Syria will be unfriendly with whatever regime will end up in there-Assad or jihadists,forget the moderates,they don't have a chance.Add to this a hostile Israel and a strenghtening kurdish region.

@Sinan @xenon54 @Neptune @Hakan @atatwolf @madmusti @rmi5 and others,sry can tag you all,you're so many.:lol:

Turkey had no major relations in the Middle East prior to Erdogan, Turkey did have a decent relationship with Israel but that was no longer in the political sense due to flotilla incident. You can't compare this leader to a leader from a stable Europe. The Middle East saw many drastic developments in the past two years that greatly complicate politics. There isn't a good choice here, there is only a better choice than the other one. Or there is neutrality which is possible for some nations but not for neighboring nations in major conflicts.
 
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Turkey had no major relations in the Middle East prior to Erdogan, Turkey did have a decent relationship with Israel but that was no longer in the political sense due to flotilla incident. You can't compare this leader to a leader from a stable Europe. The Middle East saw many drastic developments in the past two years that greatly complicate politics. There isn't a good choice here, there is only a better choice than the other one. Or there is neutrality which is possible for some nations but not for neighboring nations in major conflicts.


It had a good relation with Israel,a neutral/good one with Syria and it didn't have Egypt/Gulf Arabs as enemies.
 
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On the reality side ,do you really think that ?

As a serious discussion,am I the only one thinking that Erdogan has surrounded Turkey with enemies with his policies which seem to backfire everywhere ? Ok,Greece,Cyprus,Armenia were natural enemies but now you have Egypt ,a couple of Arab Gulf countries (which are bankrolling Egypt's rearmament program) and an unstable and enemy Syria (i wager that Syria will be unfriendly with whatever regime will end up in there-Assad or jihadists,forget the moderates,they don't have a chance.Add to this a hostile Israel and a strenghtening kurdish region.

@Sinan @xenon54 @Neptune @Hakan @atatwolf @madmusti @rmi5 and others,sry can tag you all,you're so many.:lol:
No doubt our foreign policy is ruined, AKP might be good at economic policy but they fail miserably at diplomacy.
 
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On the reality side ,do you really think that ?

As a serious discussion,am I the only one thinking that Erdogan has surrounded Turkey with enemies with his policies which seem to backfire everywhere ? Ok,Greece,Cyprus,Armenia were natural enemies but now you have Egypt ,a couple of Arab Gulf countries (which are bankrolling Egypt's rearmament program) and an unstable and enemy Syria (i wager that Syria will be unfriendly with whatever regime will end up in there-Assad or jihadists,forget the moderates,they don't have a chance.Add to this a hostile Israel and a strenghtening kurdish region.

@Sinan @xenon54 @Neptune @Hakan @atatwolf @madmusti @rmi5 and others,sry can tag you all,you're so many.:lol:

Though I agree with you. But I am looking from a militaristic point of view. Not diplomacy making nor internal affairs. God knows what would have happened if we didn't have such a military no matter how harsh it was suppressed by AKP, Gülen and foreign powers.
 
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On the reality side ,do you really think that ?

As a serious discussion,am I the only one thinking that Erdogan has surrounded Turkey with enemies with his policies which seem to backfire everywhere ? Ok,Greece,Cyprus,Armenia were natural enemies but now you have Egypt ,a couple of Arab Gulf countries (which are bankrolling Egypt's rearmament program) and an unstable and enemy Syria (i wager that Syria will be unfriendly with whatever regime will end up in there-Assad or jihadists,forget the moderates,they don't have a chance.Add to this a hostile Israel and a strenghtening kurdish region.

@Sinan @xenon54 @Neptune @Hakan @atatwolf @madmusti @rmi5 and others,sry can tag you all,you're so many.:lol:
Greece, Greek Cypriots and Armenia = likely forever hostile.
Iran = rival/hostile. No matter what course (warmer ties with the west, sunni islamic policies or Turkic aimed) Turkey sails, Iran will be uncomfortable against it.
Syria = was and still is hostile behind the scenes under Assad family. They had and have warm ties with SU/Russia and Iran (our rivals), so i dont believe that Syria would have been so warm towards Turkey, even if we didnt get involved with the FSA. Plus they supported pkk in the last few decades and so they are the ones who should make up for their wrong policies instead of demanding goodwill from us.
Egypt = muslim brotherhood or not, Turkey stood up for democracy there. a coup is a coup and should be condemned. Unfortunately some Arab countries throw mud at Turkey, but that is because they themselves are either afraid to lose their chair due an Arab spring or just want to protect their own political interests, and so rather support sisi than the MB. Anyway, i think akp poked its nose too deep there..
Israel = they obviously have their own agenda backed by unconditional US support. They do as they please and can get away with it. They treated us badly (not that akp has been perfect vis a vis Israel) so i have the impression Turkey would be nothing but an extra disposable tool for Israel to achieve their plans in the region.
Iraq = looking at the current developments, I think under Abidi's leadership Turkey might have the chance to build a positive relationship with Iraq

No matter which party ruled Turkey, first we really should look at which factions actually want good ties with an increasing assertive and growing Turkey? The only countries where Turkish govt really could have handled better were Israel and Egypt imo. All those other countries were and are not that friendly and have some beef (be it politically or religiously) with Turkey to begin with anyway, so not sure whether its realistic to expect great ties with such neighbors.

What do others think?
 
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People are talking like Akp is the reason for this crisis. Before akp ther was not much good relation with neighbours like now. I mean the nationalism foreigner policy.

People have forgotten fast, when DSP and MHP boost ties with israel. What was our relation with our neighbours:-)? Or before that goverment and between 93 and 00?
 
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Hopefully this new silk road with china will be completed soon because it will help cut dependence on the suez canal

Investment in the New Suez Canal project is a large part of the Chinese Silk Road strategy. The importance and role of the Suez canal will only grow during and after the completion of the New Suez Canal project.

Egypt = muslim brotherhood or not, Turkey stood up for democracy there. a coup is a coup and should be condemned. Unfortunately some Arab countries throw mud at Turkey, but that is because they themselves are either afraid to lose their chair due an Arab spring or just want to protect their own political interests, and so rather support sisi than the MB.

I'm sorry, but where was the support for democracy and human rights during the Mubarak regime? Why wasn't Turkey harboring hostile and wanted political activists under his rule and allowing them to speak against the regime and military (and even excuse the killing of soldiers) through Turkish based TV channels?

Where was Erdogan's outrage over the events of Maspero and Mohammed Mahmoud under the SCAF? Why were bilateral ties (Sea of Friendship?) improving under the SCAF which killed and imprisoned hundreds if not thousands of people rather than demonstrations being organised to denounce them?

Were was the support for liberal democracy when Morsi breached the constitution and the separation of powers for which he should have been impeached (although that could not legally happen due to several reasons)? Where was the outrage for those killed and tortured at Alithadiya?

Erdogan is simply acting in his own and his parties (not AKP that other well known one) interests rather than that of Turkey. He is consistently destroying the Turkish FO's attempts at normalising relations with Egypt (most recently at the UN). Continued hostility towards the Egyptian regime by blatantly supporting one side over another is only hurting Turkish interests at home and in the region.
 
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Egypt is an enemy of turkey , you need to read some history about this country , it's not their first time that they support Greece and Cyprus against turkey

Egypt is very afraid of the growing power of turkey in the region
 
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Egypt is an enemy of turkey , you need to read some history about this country , it's not their first time that they support Greece and Cyprus against turkey

Egypt is very afraid of the growing power of turkey in the region

Egypt has a long and close history with all three of these nations, through its own colonial past and theirs. Egyptians of Turkish origins would certainly not be happy that you consider Egypt an enemy of Turkey nor would Egyptians of Greek or Cypriot ancestry for that matter.
 
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Egypt is an enemy of turkey , you need to read some history about this country , it's not their first time that they support Greece and Cyprus against turkey

Egypt is very afraid of the growing power of turkey in the region


Turkey's military power is indeed growing but its political clout in the region is diminishing ,IMO.
 
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